First Workstation Build

[Scafe07]

Hi Everyone,

 

Just looking for a second opinion on a build I am about to start. I was tasked with purchasing a new workstation for the business I work for. After pricing out some pre built I decided we would be much better to build it ourselves. I am fairly comfortable with the actual build process and am not worried about that aspect. I am just looking for a second opinion on hardware. So far I have:

 

Cpu: i9 9900k

Motherboard: MSI MPG Z390 Carbon Pro

Ram: Corsair Vengance LPX 3000 4x8gb

Cooler: Noctua D15

Case: be quiet! Silent base 601

PSU: Corsair HX850 platinum

Video Card: PNY RTX4000

Fans: 3x Noctua A14

 

I chose this case because it will be used in a professional environment and I like the fact it is quite and doesn't have a window. Also I think it looks nice.

 

The PC will be mainly used for editing 4k video in premiere pro and rendering medium sized assemblies in solidworks.

 

Budget wise it is fairly open within reason and I am located in Ontario Canada.

 

If anyone has suggestions I am open for suggestions

 

Thanks

Ryan

 

[Wh0_Am_1]

First, what does your business need these workstations for? (the reason I ask is because the workload will greatly influence the part selection) Second what is the overall budget for the build?

[LukeSavenije]

what workloads? budget?  does every second make a difference? have you thought about warranty support?

 

and there's only 2 msi motherboards i'd trust with a 9900k... and i don't think you've selected that one

[Scafe07]

Sorry guys posted by accident the first time. Wasn't finished the post yet

[LukeSavenije]

7 minutes ago, Scafe07 said:

Cpu: i9 9900k

Motherboard: MSI MPG Z390 Carbon Pro

that won't go well...

 

any budget on the whole build?

[Scafe07]

Budget is $4000.

Anything specifically wrong with that motherboard?

I was looking at the maximus here xi but read some bad things about the VRM temps.

[Wh0_Am_1]

How large are your projects going to be, I ask because the Radeon 7 may be a better option if you plan on working on large workloads, due to the Radeon 7's 16GB of HBM2.

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Scafe07 said:

Anything specifically wrong with that motherboard?

i'd consider the power delivery to be too weak for a 9900k, it can go into the 200 watts on a good load...

 

1 minute ago, Scafe07 said:

I was looking at the maximus here xi but read some bad things about the VRM temps.

and they cheaped out on the vrms... only the gene, extreme and apex are "9900k ready" imo

 

i can do half

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$489.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler	Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$89.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$159.99 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$145.98 @ Newegg
Video Card	XFX - Radeon VII 16 GB Video Card	$679.99 @ Amazon
Case	be quiet! - Silent Base 601 | Orange ATX Mid Tower Case	$129.00 @ B&H
Power Supply	Corsair - HX Platinum 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$119.97 @ Newegg
Case Fan	be quiet! - SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120mm Fan	$19.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fan	be quiet! - SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120mm Fan	$19.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fan	be quiet! - SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120mm Fan	$19.99 @ SuperBiiz
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1894.84
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$1874.84
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-24 19:02 EDT-0400

 

[Scafe07]

6 minutes ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

How large are your projects going to be, I ask because the Radeon 7 may be a better option if you plan on working on large workloads, due to the Radeon 7's 16GB of HBM2.

Roughly between 60-300 components. Including a large amount of patterns and helices. Somewhere around 10mb is the file size

[Wh0_Am_1]

Just now, Scafe07 said:

Roughly between 60-300 components. Including a large amount of patterns and helices. Somewhere around 10mb is the file size

But how much RAM/VRAM does it consume when rendering?

[Scafe07]

7 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

i'd consider the power delivery to be too weak for a 9900k, it can go into the 200 watts on a good load...

 

and they cheaped out on the vrms... only the gene, extreme and apex are "9900k ready" imo

 

i can do half

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$489.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler	Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$89.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$159.99 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$145.98 @ Newegg
Video Card	XFX - Radeon VII 16 GB Video Card	$679.99 @ Amazon
Case	be quiet! - Silent Base 601 | Orange ATX Mid Tower Case	$129.00 @ B&H
Power Supply	Corsair - HX Platinum 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$119.97 @ Newegg
Case Fan	be quiet! - SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120mm Fan	$19.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fan	be quiet! - SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120mm Fan	$19.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fan	be quiet! - SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120mm Fan	$19.99 @ SuperBiiz
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1894.84
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$1874.84
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-24 19:02 EDT-0400

 

I'm in Canada so those prices would go up quite a bit. As for the radeon I'm sure it's a good GPU but I'm not really on that team red boat yet. Especially when it comes to their GPUs. Do you think the D15 would be enough cooling for a 9900k?

[Scafe07]

2 minutes ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

But how much RAM/VRAM does it consume when rendering?

Right now I have a xeon E5-1620 v3 in my computer with a M4000 and when rendering both are pinned at 100% if I render with both. However I'm not sure of exact VRAM requirements. I also have 32 GB of ram and very rarely if ever utilize all 32 gb

[LukeSavenije]

4 minutes ago, Scafe07 said:

I'm in Canada so those prices would go up quite a bit. As for the radeon I'm sure it's a good GPU but I'm not really on that team red boat yet. Especially when it comes to their GPUs. Do you think the D15 would be enough cooling for a 9900k?

ftfy

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$648.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop
CPU Cooler	Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$99.95 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Motherboard	Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$219.00 @ Canada Computers
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$199.99 @ Newegg Canada
Video Card	XFX - Radeon VII 16 GB Video Card	$929.99 @ Newegg Canada
Case	be quiet! - Silent Base 601 | Black ATX Mid Tower Case	$172.90 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Power Supply	Corsair - HX Platinum 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$154.99 @ Canada Computers
Case Fan	be quiet! - SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120mm Fan	$28.90 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Case Fan	be quiet! - SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120mm Fan	$28.90 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Case Fan	be quiet! - SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120mm Fan	$28.90 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2532.51
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$2512.51
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-24 19:16 EDT-0400

 

if a nhd15 can't keep it cool, almost nothing can.

 

the vii is really nice, it's a vega based gpu with the chip of about a 2080, but has a shocking 16 gigabytes of hbm2 (which is much faster than gddr6), which alone would cost around 350-400 dollars us to manifacture

[Wh0_Am_1]

1 minute ago, Scafe07 said:

 As for the radeon I'm sure it's a good GPU but I'm not really on that team red boat yet. Especially when it comes to their GPUs. 

I understand, but the value of the Radeon 7 is undeniable when it comes to large projects due to the 16GB of RAM vs the 8GB of the RTX 4000 , if you want that much VRAM in an Nvidia GPU get ready to pony up at least twice as much, and the Radeon 7 is ~80% as fast as the RTX4000 in Solidworks, which means that you can maintain the faster performance of the GPU in larger workloads rather that switching to the slower performance of a CPU.

[Wh0_Am_1]

4 minutes ago, Scafe07 said:

Right now I have a xeon E5-1620 v3 in my computer with a M4000 and when rendering both are pinned at 100% if I render with both. However I'm not sure of exact VRAM requirements. I also have 32 GB of ram and very rarely if ever utilize all 32 gb

Then I ask a question do you use at least 8GB with your renders? Because in workloads larger than 8GB the RTX4000 will be worthless.

[Scafe07]

5 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

ftfy

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$648.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop
CPU Cooler	Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$99.95 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Motherboard	Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$219.00 @ Canada Computers
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$199.99 @ Newegg Canada
Video Card	XFX - Radeon VII 16 GB Video Card	$929.99 @ Newegg Canada
Case	be quiet! - Silent Base 601 | Black ATX Mid Tower Case	$172.90 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Power Supply	Corsair - HX Platinum 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$154.99 @ Canada Computers
Case Fan	be quiet! - SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120mm Fan	$28.90 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Case Fan	be quiet! - SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120mm Fan	$28.90 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Case Fan	be quiet! - SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120mm Fan	$28.90 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2532.51
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$2512.51
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-24 19:16 EDT-0400

 

if a nhd15 can't keep it cool, almost nothing can.

 

the vii is really nice, it's a vega based gpu with the chip of about a 2080, but has a shocking 16 gigabytes of hbm2 (which is much faster than gddr6), which alone would cost around 350-400 dollars us to manifacture

Do you know what the main difference between the Aorus elite and pro are?

[Scafe07]

10 minutes ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

I understand, but the value of the Radeon 7 is undeniable when it comes to large projects due to the 16GB of RAM vs the 8GB of the RTX 4000 , if you want that much VRAM in an Nvidia GPU get ready to pony up at least twice as much, and the Radeon 7 is ~80% as fast as the RTX4000 in Solidworks, which means that you can maintain the faster performance of the GPU in larger workloads rather that switching to the slower performance of a CPU.

Only thing is the radeon VII isn't "certified" by solidworks which mean you can't use features like real view graphics. I would rather have the ability than not. Even if the radeon is a better card. I was initially looking at a 2080 and I chose the quadro for that reason

[LukeSavenije]

9 minutes ago, Scafe07 said:

Do you know what the main difference between the Aorus elite and pro are?

vmrs are about the same... looks a little different, maybe a feature here and there

 

it's a small step up, but it's a little better

[Scafe07]

I think I will definitely go with the gigabyte elite. Seems to have good power delivery. Thanks for the help!

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, Scafe07 said:

I think I will definitely go with the gigabyte elite. Seems to have good power delivery. Thanks for the help!

yeah, it's a great 12 phase for the price, clearly ready for a 9900k

 

if you have all the info you need, you can mark it solved with that checkmark, and i'd appreciate some likes if you don't mind