4690K overclocking help

[oskarnedreaas]

I run a 4690k and a GTX 1080 SC in my pc and get quite a hefty bottleneck, playing rust I see that my CPU is at 90-100% and my GPU at 50 or 60%. I have installed a 280mm h110i water cooler for my CPU since I need an overclock. I run all my temps off of NZXT software called CAM that works for the fans in my case.

 

I need help overclocking since I've never been in contact with it before, am using an ASUS board (z97 gryphon armour). Could someone help walk me through what I need to do to overclock so I can use the whole of my GPU.

[Fasauceome]

The thing is that overclocking via YouTube tutorials will help a ton more than a typed up instruction. Also, that's quite a lot of work.

 

Search for it yourself, and apply this advice: get the highest CPU frequency you can and keep lowering the voltage to get the lowest stable possible.

8 minutes ago, oskarnedreaas said:

overclock so I can use the whole of my GPU.

Not sure that'll happen, depending on the game a quad core isn't enough, even a fast one.

[oskarnedreaas]

3 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

The thing is that overclocking via YouTube tutorials will help a ton more than a typed up instruction. Also, that's quite a lot of work.

 

Search for it yourself, and apply this advice: get the highest CPU frequency you can and keep lowering the voltage to get the lowest stable possible.

Not sure that'll happen, depending on the game a quad core isn't enough, even a fast one.

but how do I know when its stable though

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, oskarnedreaas said:

but how do I know when its stable though

stable is when your CPU cooler can handle the heat and when the computer doesn't crash when you do the things it needs to do. My go to test for stability is an Aida64 stress test for 10 minutes.

[oskarnedreaas]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

stable is when your CPU cooler can handle the heat and when the computer doesn't crash when you do the things it needs to do. My go to test for stability is an Aida64 stress test for 10 minutes.

yeah have heard of stress tests, just not sure on how to read the results, does it just say stable or unstable

[Bananasplit_00]

Id start with rasing VCCIN to 2.0V, also stay bellow 1.4V core voltage. My I5 4690K did 4.7GHz at 1.335V for reference, and thats seen as quite good.

[oskarnedreaas]

Just now, Bananasplit_00 said:

Id start with rasing VCCIN to 2.0V, also stay bellow 1.4V core voltage. My I5 4690K did 4.7GHz at 1.335V for reference, and thats seen as quite good.

not sure what the difference between normal voltage and core voltage is and all that stuff

[Bananasplit_00]

Just now, oskarnedreaas said:

not sure what the difference between normal voltage and core voltage is and all that stuff

VCCIN is the voltage fed from the VRM to the CPU and core voltage is the voltage that the Fully Intergrated Voltage Regulator(FIVR) spits out to the cores from those 2V

[Fasauceome]

11 minutes ago, oskarnedreaas said:

yeah have heard of stress tests, just not sure on how to read the results, does it just say stable or unstable

simpler:

 

STABLE is when the system runs

 

UNSTABLE is when the system crashes.

 

If your games, programs, or operating system can't run with the OC you set, it's unstable. There's no text readout that says "unstable" or "stable"

[oskarnedreaas]

7 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

simpler:

 

STABLE is when the system runs

 

UNSTABLE is when the system crashes.

 

If your games, programs, or operating system can't run with the OC you set, it's unstable. There's no text readout that says "unstable" or "stable"

oh and another weird thing is that I have 8gb of Ram installed, and it used to read 8 in settings. But when upgraded GPU then there was a red light on a RAM led or something and then my pc didn't turn on, I switched the sticks around and the pc turned on but my settings now say I have 4gb of ram. Do you know what this could be

[Fasauceome]

Just now, oskarnedreaas said:

oh and another weird thing is that I have 8gb of Ram installed, and it used to read 8 in settings. But when upgraded GPU then there was a red light on a RAM led or something and then my pc didn't turn on, I switched the sticks around and the pc turned on but my settings now say I have 4gb of ram. Do you know what this could be

It's possible that there's just a small error, have you tried once again to get back to 8GB? Also resetting the BIOS to optimized defaults might help 

[oskarnedreaas]

Just now, fasauceome said:

It's possible that there's just a small error, have you tried once again to get back to 8GB? Also resetting the BIOS to optimized defaults might help 

what do you mean get back to 8gb

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, oskarnedreaas said:

what do you mean get back to 8gb

I mean that you used to have your PC show that you have 8GB, what have you tried to get that back?

[oskarnedreaas]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

I mean that you used to have your PC show that you have 8GB, what have you tried to get that back?

nothing, don't really want to touch the sticks again since, tbh I'm scared the pc might not turn on again

[Fasauceome]

Just now, oskarnedreaas said:

nothing, don't really want to touch the sticks again since, tbh I'm scared the pc might not turn on again

There's not really a huge risk of that, plus 4GB is gonna be your main issue of that's all you're stuck with. Clearing up the CPU bottleneck won't yield much performance uplift if you lack the ram needed for your games.

[oskarnedreaas]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

There's not really a huge risk of that, plus 4GB is gonna be your main issue of that's all you're stuck with. Clearing up the CPU bottleneck won't yield much performance uplift if you lack the ram needed for your games.

what config should I put my sticks into then? 1st and 3rd slot or 2nd and 4th

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, oskarnedreaas said:

what config should I put my sticks into then? 1st and 3rd slot or 2nd and 4th

The green slots

 

And if you want to be sure of eliminating risk, don't forget to unplug the PC when you swap around hardware

[oskarnedreaas]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

The green slots

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjwtbva1ebhAhV9ysQBHYvdDScQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.asus.com%2FMotherboards%2FGRYPHON_Z97_ARMOR_EDITION%2F&psig=AOvVaw3XLYRwNiNWHI2ZK3NMBJZw&ust=1556124517088556

 

mine has these

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, oskarnedreaas said:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjwtbva1ebhAhV9ysQBHYvdDScQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.asus.com%2FMotherboards%2FGRYPHON_Z97_ARMOR_EDITION%2F&psig=AOvVaw3XLYRwNiNWHI2ZK3NMBJZw&ust=1556124517088556

 

mine has these

I guess those are sort of beige colored my bad. Used the non black ones.

Edited April 23, 2019 by fasauceome

[oskarnedreaas]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

I guess those are sort of beige colored my bad. Used the non black ones.

alright thanks ill try that and see how that goes

[oskarnedreaas]

27 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

I guess those are sort of beige colored my bad. Used the non black ones.

I just switched and got my 8gb back, I went to 4.6 ghz and 1.2 volts but my pc crashed. Do I down the voltage or the frequency 

[Fasauceome]

4 minutes ago, oskarnedreaas said:

I just switched and got my 8gb back, I went to 4.6 ghz and 1.2 volts but my pc crashed. Do I down the voltage or the frequency 

4.6GHz at 1.25 might work

 

With a 280mm water cooler, you can handle more.

Edited April 23, 2019 by fasauceome

[oskarnedreaas]

Just now, fasauceome said:

4.6GHz at 1.25 might work

wow yeah it booted, am gonna install aida64 and see what it reads. if my temps go over 80 degrees should I tune down the voltage?

[Fasauceome]

Just now, oskarnedreaas said:

wow yeah it booted, am gonna install aida64 and see what it reads. if my temps go over 80 degrees should I tune down the voltage?

Over 80 degrees in Aida is fine, I would say 95 and up is something that needs adjusting.

[oskarnedreaas]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

Over 80 degrees in Aida is fine, I would say 95 and up is something that needs adjusting.

yeah I need to use prime95 since Aida is expired