Jump to content

I'm looking at two different memory kits.  Both are 3200mhz rated with 16,18,18,36 timings.  They are exactly the same in total memory, both 32 gb but one kit is 80 dollars higher than the other.  Looking into the specs the one differences is one kit is rated at 2166 SPD with timings 15, 15, 15, 36 and the other is rated 2666 SPD with timings 18, 18, 18, 43.

 

This is where I'm confused because both are rated at 3200Mhz but the SPD's are different.  Does the higher SPD mean it can be overclocked more?  I guess the other difference is that the 2133 SPD says nothing about Ryzen but the 2666 SPD version says it is Ryzen ready.  I'm trying to figure out what is the difference between the two that would cause the manufacture to charge an additional $80 for the higher SPD.  Is it because it is Ryzen speced? Is it because the SPD is higher thus easier to obtain more stable overclocks or at least tighter timings?  Help?  And thanks.

Phanteks Enthoo Elite | Intel I9 - 7900X | Asus x299 Rampage VI Extreme | MSI 1080 TI 

32Gb Dominator Platinum Special Edition Blackout 3200MHz  | Samsung 960 Pro | 2x Samsung 961 Pro (Raid 0) 256Gb M.2 SSD  

Samsung 850 Pro 512Gb | WD Black 4TB | Corsair AX1200i

 

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1056962-memory-question-on-spd-speed/
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

means nothing. Usually the first 3 are JEDEC specs while the 4th represents what they are binned for. Passing JEDEC specs are the minimal requirements

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

Link to post
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

means nothing. Usually the first 3 are JEDEC specs while the 4th represents what they are binned for. Passing JEDEC specs are the minimal requirements

That is what I was figuring but if one has a baseline of 2133 MHZ and the other has a baseline of 2666 MHZ, then they are just running on different clock cycles? It is just weird that one is 80 bux more....I'm wondering if it has to do with the origin of the memory chips.  Corsair CMT32GMX4MAc3200C16 vs Corsair CMT32GMX4MAz3200C16 .  That C vs Z .. looks like a revision model. C being old XMS module and Z meaning Vengeance module .. I'm not sure the difference.  This makes more sense the C is the older version for x99 and such with the Z being the newer version for Ryzen.  I could get away with the C since I have a x299 model.

Phanteks Enthoo Elite | Intel I9 - 7900X | Asus x299 Rampage VI Extreme | MSI 1080 TI 

32Gb Dominator Platinum Special Edition Blackout 3200MHz  | Samsung 960 Pro | 2x Samsung 961 Pro (Raid 0) 256Gb M.2 SSD  

Samsung 850 Pro 512Gb | WD Black 4TB | Corsair AX1200i

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, brighttail said:

That is what I was figuring but if one has a baseline of 2133 MHZ and the other has a baseline of 2666 MHZ, then they are just running on different clock cycles?

clock cycles refer to the timings, so yes

 

14 minutes ago, brighttail said:

I'm wondering if it has to do with the origin of the memory chips. 

Usually no. Even if the chips are different models, their potential should be very similar. Otherwise the sticks wont have the same ratings.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×