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I'm building this following system. Will it bottleneck ? If yes what changes should I do in the hardwares?

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CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ₹21000.00 @ Amazon India
Motherboard Asus - TUF X470-PLUS GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ₹16000.00 @ Amazon India
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ₹3924.00 @ Amazon India
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ₹3924.00 @ Amazon India
Storage Kingston - A400 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ₹1787.00 @ Amazon India
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ₹3231.00 @ Amazon India
Video Card Asus - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB Phoenix OC Video Card ₹27000.00 @ Amazon India
Case Corsair - 100R ATX Mid Tower Case ₹3186.00 @ Amazon India
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ₹3990.00 @ Amazon India
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total ₹84042.00
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No, but you should get a 2x8 gb kit of ram though, it just might help compatibility. Unless the 1x8GB is a really good deal.

 

8700K @ 5.2ghz 1.29V, 4x8 Rev.E @ 4040 13-20-20-39 1.7V.

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17 minutes ago, alatron978 said:

No, but you should get a 2x8 gb kit of ram though, it just might help compatibility.

 

thats the same ram, he should be fine

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Just now, Srijan Verma said:

thats the same ram, he should be fine

It could be a different version though, which could make a very few amount of motherboards unhappy, probs not though.

8700K @ 5.2ghz 1.29V, 4x8 Rev.E @ 4040 13-20-20-39 1.7V.

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I wont say there's no bottleneck, but there isn't a better solution for that.

 

What I do have is price cutting by dropping the overpriced stuff and adding something good for the system

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ₹17794.00 @ Amazon India
Motherboard MSI - B450 Gaming Plus ATX AM4 Motherboard ₹9943.00 @ Amazon India
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ₹3924.00 @ Amazon India
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ₹3924.00 @ Amazon India
Storage Kingston - A1000 480 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ₹4911.00 @ Amazon India
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ₹3231.00 @ Amazon India
Video Card Zotac - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB GAMING Video Card ₹25995.00 @ Amazon India
Case Corsair - 100R ATX Mid Tower Case ₹3186.00 @ Amazon India
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ₹3990.00 @ Amazon India
Case Fan Fractal Design - X2 GP-12 (Black) 52.3 CFM 120mm Fan ₹1926.00 @ Amazon India
Case Fan Fractal Design - X2 GP-12 (Black) 52.3 CFM 120mm Fan ₹1926.00 @ Amazon India
Case Fan Fractal Design - X2 GP-12 (Black) 52.3 CFM 120mm Fan ₹1926.00 @ Amazon India
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total ₹82676.00
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-21 09:15 IST+0530  

 

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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3 hours ago, Srijan Verma said:

though you could go for a i5 9th gen 9400f for a much cheaper price without running into a bottleneck

That's true. Either with a B365 board or a B360 mobo with latest bios-update.

 

9400f outperforms 2600x in GAMING.

 

Btw, for the OP: @Prasad001 The Asus Mobo is very poor choice, best price-to-performance mobos for AM4 are MSI Gaming Plus&Tomahawk&MortarM or Asrock B450 Pro4&Steel Legend.

 

I'd rather get the rams in dual channel kit, rather than two separate 1stick module: sometimes the latter does not really want to work in dual channel.

 

Asus GPU-s are overpriced, poor cost:performance ratio again. Stay away from asus stuff which is not "Strix" or "ROG" (those are quite expensive though)

 

I think you'd be better with

Some mid-level B360 mobo& Intel Core 5 9400f. Some other GPU which is not Asus& a dual kit ram. 

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9 hours ago, alatron978 said:

It could be a different version though, which could make a very few amount of motherboards unhappy, probs not though.

I'm actually getting ram from local store. Which is less in cost than online one.

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10 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

I wont say there's no bottleneck, but there isn't a better solution for that.

 

What I do have is price cutting by dropping the overpriced stuff and adding something good for the system

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ₹17794.00 @ Amazon India
Motherboard MSI - B450 Gaming Plus ATX AM4 Motherboard ₹9943.00 @ Amazon India
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ₹3924.00 @ Amazon India
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ₹3924.00 @ Amazon India
Storage Kingston - A1000 480 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ₹4911.00 @ Amazon India
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ₹3231.00 @ Amazon India
Video Card Zotac - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB GAMING Video Card ₹25995.00 @ Amazon India
Case Corsair - 100R ATX Mid Tower Case ₹3186.00 @ Amazon India
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ₹3990.00 @ Amazon India
Case Fan Fractal Design - X2 GP-12 (Black) 52.3 CFM 120mm Fan ₹1926.00 @ Amazon India
Case Fan Fractal Design - X2 GP-12 (Black) 52.3 CFM 120mm Fan ₹1926.00 @ Amazon India
Case Fan Fractal Design - X2 GP-12 (Black) 52.3 CFM 120mm Fan ₹1926.00 @ Amazon India
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total ₹82676.00
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-21 09:15 IST+0530  

 

Ryzen 5 2600 is good choice and I'm okay with that. But I want go with x470 motherboard , because I want to overclock processor and graphics card whenever I need. B450 can also overclock ,but x470 is better at overclocking, according to online info. 

Also x470 supports SLI.

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Don't let mobo chipset fool you. A good B450 board with decent VRM can in fact outperform a cheap x470 board in CPU&Ram OC-ing. And the GPU as well.

 

Tomahawk! Or Gaming Plus. Both MSI, both good for OC& both cheap for the performance they provide.

Or you can opt for Mortar as well, if you'd rather build onto an mATX board. And honestly, how many people actually use SLI? Not a whole lot...

 

Please consult the mobo tier-list thread, and my signature for recommended AM4 boards. I'm pretty confident, that TUFI boards are not among the best. Overpriced-ridiculously- and that is also true for their GPU-s. I'd advice to stay away from "budget" or "midrange" Asus products. You'll get much better performance for your bucks with MSI (ie.: Their GTX1660-1660Ti Gaming X cards are very good. I'd even wager, that GamingX cards are roughly at the same level as Asus Strix ones, without the prem1um price tags.

 

 

 

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out of curiosity, what do you think is the bottleneck in the system you listed? I'm starting to think people don't actually know what it is and have only heard about it.

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57 minutes ago, Arika S said:

out of curiosity, what do you think is the bottleneck in the system you listed? I'm starting to think people don't actually know what it is and have only heard about it.

I know that it will not bottleneck.but I'm planning to stay with this build for atleast 4 years. So I have to be sure, because I don't want to be in bad position for that amount of time.

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Depends on game, but yes there's always a bottleneck.


Generally speaking Ryzen 5 2600x/1660 ti:

 

CPU will bottleneck the GPU at 1080p in most games at medium/high.

 

GPU will bottleneck the CPU at 1440p+ in most games at high/very high, and in some, 1080p high.

 

In some games and specific situations, the CPU will bottleneck anything past a GTX 1060 (WoW, raiding, world pvp, other similar games)

 

Your monitor will also bottleneck your framerate if it is 60/75hz, in some resolutions and some detail settings.

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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14 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

Depends on game, but yes there's always a bottleneck.


Generally speaking Ryzen 5 2600x/1660 ti:

 

CPU will bottleneck the GPU at 1080p in most games at medium/high.

 

GPU will bottleneck the CPU at 1440p+ in most games at high/very high, and in some, 1080p high.

 

In some games and specific situations, the CPU will bottleneck anything past a GTX 1060 (WoW, raiding, world pvp, other similar games)

 

Your monitor will also bottleneck your framerate if it is 60/75hz, in some resolutions and some detail settings.

Then, what should I do to prevent possible bottleneck as much as possible?

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12 minutes ago, Prasad001 said:

Then, what should I do to prevent possible bottleneck as much as possible?

Establish a (reasonable) goalpost (resolution, framerate, display), and use parts that will work well together and meet that goalpost.

 

Every system will bottleneck, even linus made a video about this.

 

For example my system bottlnecks:

 

At 1080p high-ultra in many games, either my GPU or monitor is my bottleneck. My CPU can push way more than 144 frames in most games, but my GPU can only push so much and my monitor can only display 144. Dropping down to medium generally my GPU can output more than 144fps, but my monitor can only display 144, so that becomes the bottleneck. In some games like Assassin's Creed Odyssey, my GPU is the bottleneck 100% of the time, because both my CPU and display can push and display more than 144fps, but my GPU can't render it.

 

With a 1440p or higher, CPU is rarely ever going to bottleneck, as that resolution is much harder on GPUs and your display must also be able to handle the framerate even if the GPU can render them.

 

At any resolution, my CPU is the bottleneck in WoW during raids and world pvp, because it's very single-core oriented and your GPU will be waiting for draw calls from the CPU, and the monitor can only display what the GPU renders up to the maximum refresh rate of that display.

 

Overall your system makes a lot of sense. But your monitor plays a big role also. What display are you using?

 

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

Establish a (reasonable) goalpost (resolution, framerate, display), and use parts that will work well together and meet that goalpost.

 

Every system will bottleneck, even linus made a video about this.

 

Overall your system makes a lot of sense. But your monitor plays a big role also. What display are you using?

Topic I started here about bottleneck was because of Linus's bottlenecking video.

I'm thinking about getting Asus VP228H monitor.. it's 60hz, 1ms, 21inch monitor.

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7 minutes ago, Prasad001 said:

Topic I started here about bottleneck was because of Linus's bottlenecking video.

I'm thinking about getting Asus VP228H monitor.. it's 60hz, 1ms, 21inch monitor.

That display appears to be 1080p/75.

 

That monitor will bottleneck both your CPU and your GPU (most of the time, Metro Exodus is a good exception example).


Get either a 1440p 75hz/144hz display (144 for future growth) or a 1080p/144hz.

 

With that CPU/GPU combination, in most games, you will be able to do 1440p/75, and in most games you will be able to do 1080p/144 medium (with bias towards lower CPU-based settings.

 

 

 

 

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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11 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

That display appears to be 1080p/75.

 

That monitor will bottleneck both your CPU and your GPU (most of the time, Metro Exodus is a good exception example).


Get either a 1440p 75hz/144hz display (144 for future growth) or a 1080p/144hz.

 

With that CPU/GPU combination, in most games, you will be able to do 1440p/75, and in most games you will be able to do 1080p/144 medium (with bias towards lower CPU-based settings.

 

 

 

 

What display do you recommend? I'm tight on budget so it would be great if you suggest according to that.

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11 minutes ago, Prasad001 said:

What display do you recommend? I'm tight on budget so it would be great if you suggest according to that.

 

Here's a resource on reviews recommendations.

 

I recommend a 1440p display since you are going AMD with a decent GPU.

 

https://www.displayninja.com/best-1440p-monitors/

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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