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Mr.Sniff
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. I'm looking to play games such as Rainbow Six Siege and hook up an Oculus Rift.

I'm also not looking to raise the GPU above an RTX 2070. Any help would be appreciated. Also, I will look into other alternatives besides Amazon.

I don't think I'm going to spend the extra money on the RTX 2070. Also, I've decided to not switch over to an Intel CPU. Also would like/appreciate tips on peripherals.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $179.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard $124.99 @ Amazon
Memory GeIL - SUPER LUCE RGB SYNC 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $84.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $109.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $59.88 @ Amazon
Video Card MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card $350.00
Case Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case $89.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Cooler Master - MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $74.99 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $106.05 @ Amazon
Monitor Acer - ED242QR Abidpx 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $169.99 @ Amazon
Other Samsung 32GB BAR USB 3.0 Flash Drive (MUF-32BA/AM) $16.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1367.75
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-18 19:02 EDT-0400  

 

 

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If you are just gaming, go for a 2600. Also, I would change the case to a Meshify C for that price, as well as the PSU to a Formula Gold. Other than that, I'd say it's fine.

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you don't need the 2700 for gaming, the 2600 will do. use the money for a 144hz monitor instead, the 2070 will be completely wasted on a 60hz 1080p monitor.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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I'm thankful you said that To be honest, I think I took a suggestion from another guy too seriously

 

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9 minutes ago, Alphyte said:

If you are just gaming, go for a 2600. Also, I would change the case to a Meshify C for that price, as well as the PSU to a Formula Gold. Other than that, I'd say it's fine.

When you say formula gold you mean bitfenix right I also like this case a lot and I'm going to stick with that.

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($164.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($99.97 @ Amazon) 
Memory: GeIL - SUPER LUCE RGB SYNC 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($84.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($109.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.78 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($479.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P350X (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.99 @ Amazon) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($106.05 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Acer - ED242QR Abidpx 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  ($169.99 @ Amazon) 
Other: Samsung 32GB BAR USB 3.0 Flash Drive (MUF-32BA/AM)  ($16.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1437.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-17 22:29 EDT-0400

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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9 minutes ago, Mr.Sniff said:

Case Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case $89.99 @ Amazon

Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $84.00 @ Amazon

Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $106.05 @ Amazon

 Other Samsung 32GB BAR USB 3.0 Flash Drive (MUF-32BA/AM) $16.99 @ Amazon

these looks a bit at the premium side, make sue you dont regret.

Im sure you can find cheap windows somewhere.

 

an alternative to usb drive, get a micro sd card 128gb (samsung evo for $24) and usb3.0 adapter. this give you much greater capacity and flexibility for your phone

 

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@Mr.Sniff Yes, Bitfenix.

Also:
 

1 minute ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($164.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($99.97 @ Amazon) 
Memory: GeIL - SUPER LUCE RGB SYNC 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($84.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($109.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.78 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($479.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P350X (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.99 @ Amazon) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($106.05 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Acer - ED242QR Abidpx 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  ($169.99 @ Amazon) 
Other: Samsung 32GB BAR USB 3.0 Flash Drive (MUF-32BA/AM)  ($16.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1437.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-17 22:29 EDT-0400

I wouldn't recommend P350X as H500 is the same price and performs better
I would still recommend a Formula over a MWE Gold. Same efficiency != same quality

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Just now, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

these looks a bit at the premium side, make sue you dont regret.

Im sure you can find cheap windows somewhere.

 

an alternative to usb drive, get a micro sd card 128gb (samsung evo for $24) and usb3.0 adapter. this give you much greater capacity and flexibility for your phone

 

thanks for the suggestion

 

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Well I've gotta a lot to look over thanks

 

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1 minute ago, Alphyte said:

I would still recommend a Formula over a MWE Gold. Same efficiency != same quality

i hope you don't think i don't know that after 3 years of being in this forum...

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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4 minutes ago, Alphyte said:

I wouldn't recommend P350X as H500 is the same price and performs better

citation needed.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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1 minute ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

i hope you don't think i don't know that after 3 years of being in this forum...

#1. I didn't know that you have been in this form for 3 years. 
#2. I don't really care about your seniority, I will correct and treat everybody on this forum, whether they've been here 1 day, or 5 years, the same. 
#3. I was just pointing it out, no need to get defensive.

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Just now, Herman Mcpootis said:

citation needed.

 

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1 minute ago, Mr.Sniff said:

Should I do 550 watt or 650?

 

Doesn't matter for this build. Whichever one is cheaper is fine.

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4 minutes ago, Mr.Sniff said:

Should I do 550 watt or 650?

 

550w is enough, i just picked the 650w MWE since it was the same price as other similar quality 550w units.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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6 minutes ago, Alphyte said:

#1. I didn't know that you have been in this form for 3 years. 
#2. I don't really care about your seniority, I will correct and treat everybody on this forum, whether they've been here 1 day, or 5 years, the same. 

right, because a guy who frequents the forum for 3 years wouldn't know that 80+ efficiency doesn't mean they're the same quality, despite me already pointing it out for years.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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Just now, Herman Mcpootis said:

right, because a guy who frequents the forum for 3 years wouldn't know that 80+ efficiency doesn't mean they're the same quality, despite me already pointing it out for years.

Again: Don't care about your history, just pointing it out.

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I decided against getting rtx 2070 it makes my life a lot easier by just saving the money.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $179.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard $124.99 @ Amazon
Memory GeIL - SUPER LUCE RGB SYNC 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $84.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $109.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $59.88 @ Amazon
Video Card MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card $350.00
Case Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case $89.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Cooler Master - MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $74.99 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $106.05 @ Amazon
Monitor Acer - ED242QR Abidpx 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $169.99 @ Amazon
Other Samsung 32GB BAR USB 3.0 Flash Drive (MUF-32BA/AM) $16.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1367.75
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-18 19:06 EDT-0400  

 

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55 minutes ago, Mr.Sniff said:

I decided against getting rtx 2070 it makes my life a lot easier by just saving the money.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $179.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard $124.99 @ Amazon
Memory GeIL - SUPER LUCE RGB SYNC 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $84.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $109.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $59.88 @ Amazon
Video Card MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card $350.00
Case Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case $89.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Cooler Master - MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $74.99 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $106.05 @ Amazon
Monitor Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $179.99
Other Samsung 32GB BAR USB 3.0 Flash Drive (MUF-32BA/AM) $16.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1377.75
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-17 23:25 EDT-0400  

 

Save a few dollars more and get even better gaming performance:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Gigabyte - Z390 UD ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $119.99 @ Amazon
Memory GeIL - SUPER LUCE RGB SYNC 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $84.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $109.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $59.88 @ Amazon
Video Card MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card $350.00
Case Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case $89.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Cooler Master - MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $74.99 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $106.05 @ Amazon
Monitor Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $179.99
Other Samsung 32GB BAR USB 3.0 Flash Drive (MUF-32BA/AM) $16.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1367.65
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-18 00:08 EDT-0400  

 

Here's a few examples out of dozens. The 9400F beats out the 2600x even when it's OCed:

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14 minutes ago, jerubedo said:

 

Here's a few examples out of dozens. The 9400F beats out the 2600x even when it's OCed:

thats about 7 fps ahead of 2600 for giving up 6 threads. Definitely NOT WORTH GETTING 9400F.

also the z390 is not needed for 9400f.

 

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29 minutes ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

thats about 7 fps ahead of 2600 for giving up 6 threads. Definitely NOT WORTH GETTING 9400F.

also the z390 is not needed for 9400f.

 

More FPS for less money. And the threads aren't mattering much in gaming. Even in Assassin's Creed Origins (which uses 12 threads) the 9400F still matches or beats the 2600x depending on the benchmark you're looking at and it has 6 less threads. It also wins in Far Cry 5 which uses 8 threads even though it has 2 less threads. That's a marker for future performance, meaning its thread advantage won't be useful in most games even down the line.

 

You absolutely need a Z390 for the 9400F for a few reasons.

 

1) The B365 board can only use up to 2666MHz RAM. The 9400F experiences gains of up to 16% by stepping up to 3200MHz depending on the game.

2) It provides an upgrade path to the 9700K and 9900K where the B365 board won't handle those CPUs due to way worse VRMs/power delivery.

3) It provides the ability to overclock where the B365 board does not if the user chooses to move onto any K-SKU CPU.

4) The Z390 is only $17 more than the B365 board, giving you the above for very little money more. Z390/B365 are the only chipsets to support 9th Gen Intel out of the box which is why other chipsets are not being considered. 

 

Finally remember that the above is the 8400, the 9400F will get more like 9 FPS more instead of 7 FPS more. At 109 FPS vs 100 FPS that's a 9% gain for $10 less.

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1 hour ago, Mr.Sniff said:

I decided against getting rtx 2070 it makes my life a lot easier by just saving the money.

 

Get the ED242QR instead, the panel is much better and it supports freesync for better smoothness in games.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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