2070 over 1070?

[Delta5ff]

I'm looking at a couple of laptops. No the are the same brand. One is last ears model with a 1070 and the other is this year's model with a 2070. There is a £700 price difference between them. (Granted this year's model has the better storage option as well). Will there really be enough of a performance upgrade at 1080p to justify the increased price when I don't care about ray tracing?

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

I would say no if those are the only differences. But check CPU, since it may be 7th gen on the old one in which case AVOID

[genexis_x]

1 hour ago, Delta5ff said:

same brand

What model?

[Delta5ff]

22 minutes ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

I would say no if those are the only differences. But check CPU, since it may be 7th gen on the old one in which case AVOID

Both are an i7 8750h. The one with a 2070 has 512gb ssd and a 1tb said. While the 1070 has 256 ssd and a 1tb her at 5400hz. Not other than that both seem to be nearly identical.

 

32 minutes ago, GeneXiS_X said:

What model?

Both are rog strix scar

[genexis_x]

41 minutes ago, Delta5ff said:

Both are rog strix scar

I want model number not name...GL504 is it?

[Delta5ff]

18 minutes ago, GeneXiS_X said:

I want model number not name...GL504 is it?

GL703GS-EE071T,

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-rog-gl703gs-nvidia-gtx-1070-16gb-17.3-120hz-g-sync-3ms-i7-8750h-gaming-laptop-lt-266-as.html

 

GL704GW-EV004T

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-strix-scar-ii-gl704gw-nvidia-rtx-2070-16gb-17.3-144hz-3ms-i7-8750h-gaming-laptop-lt-26u-as.html

[genexis_x]

Avoid these due to insufficient cooling:

GL703GS

GL504GS/GW

All GL704

 

GL504GV would be the best bet. 2060N is similar to 1070N

 

Are you open to other options?

[markr54632]

8 hours ago, GeneXiS_X said:

Avoid these due to insufficient cooling:

GL703GS

GL504GS/GW

All GL704

 

GL504GV would be the best bet. 2060N is similar to 1070N

 

Are you open to other options?

I thought for the most part the gl703gs was able to at least maintain baseclock under heavy load?

[genexis_x]

2 hours ago, markr54632 said:

I thought for the most part the gl703gs was able to at least maintain baseclock under heavy load?

Still has insufficient cooling imo. Hot surface temps+loud fans

[Delta5ff]

23 hours ago, GeneXiS_X said:

Avoid these due to insufficient cooling:

GL703GS

GL504GS/GW

All GL704

 

GL504GV would be the best bet. 2060N is similar to 1070N

 

Are you open to other options?

Yeah I've been looking at quite  few different laptops. The acer Helios 500 seems to be a good choice. From what I've seen of the GL703GS it seems to be on par with most other laptops as far as cooling goes and been on offer for £1400 seems like a really good deal.

[Delta5ff]

Or what about this Alienware laptop with an i7 8750 and 1070?

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Alienware-Laptop-Memory-NVIDIA-GeForce/dp/B07D6CMJYS/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1552414899&sr=1-2&refinements=p_89%3AAlienware|Razer%2Cp_n_feature_seven_browse-bin%3A11416479031

[genexis_x]

4 hours ago, Delta5ff said:

Alienware laptop

Very heavy, might have heatsink issue

[Delta5ff]

11 hours ago, GeneXiS_X said:

Very heavy, might have heatsink issue

I've also been looking at the pc specialist octane v/vi

[genexis_x]

On 3/11/2019 at 2:06 AM, Delta5ff said:

Yeah I've been looking at quite  few different laptops

Do you have any preference on weight and battery life? Max budget?

[Delta5ff]

3 hours ago, GeneXiS_X said:

Do you have any preference on weight and battery life? Max budget?

I'm not to bothered about weight. I will be carrying it around a lot but I don't care if it's a little heavy.

 

Battery life is not to much of an issue as it will nearly always be plugged in but obviously bigger is better. 

 

My budget is around £1800 but I'm willing to go a little over £2000 for something really special.

 

Edit: the two biggest things I'll be looking for after performance is cooling and noise. I'll be using it in a pub a lot to connect to the internet so quieter is good but not imperative. 

Edited March 14, 2019 by Delta5ff

[genexis_x]

18 hours ago, Delta5ff said:

noise

Do you mean noise while idling / under light load or noise under medium / heavy load?

 

2070 (no Max-Q):

- PCSpecialist Octane VI 17.3 / CyberpowerPC Fusion Ultra 17 (Clevo P775TM) - i7-8700 recommended, i7-8700K if delided

- PCSpecialist Octane VI 15.6 / CyberpowerPC Fusion Ultra 15 (Clevo P750TM, P751TM) - i7-8700 recommended, i7-8700K if delided

- PCSpecialist Proteus VI (Quanta NL5E) - might run a bit hot

- MSI GE63 8SF - might run a bit hot

 

2060:

- PCSpecialist Octane VI 17.3 / CyberpowerPC Fusion Ultra 17

- PCSpecialist Octane VI 15.6 / CyberpowerPC Fusion Ultra 15

- Lenovo Legion Y740 17 - one of the best fan speed of all gaming laptops

- MSI GE75 8SE / 8SX

- MSI GE63 8SE / 8SX

- Asus GL504GV

- HP Omen 15-dc1005na

- Dell G7 7790

 

1070 (no Max-Q):

- MSI GT63 8RF

- HP Omen 17-an112na, 17-an107na

- MSI GE63/GE73 8RF - might run a bit hot

 

Thin and light

2070 (no Max-Q):

- CyberpowerPC Tracer RTX-17 Xtreme / PCSpecialist Recoil II 17.3 (TongFang GK7CP7S)

 

2060:

- CyberpowerPC Tracer RTX-17 Xtreme / PCSpecialist Recoil II 17.3 (TongFang GK7CP0S)

- Lenovo Legion Y740 15 - one of the best fan speed of all gaming laptops

- PCSpecialist Defiance V / CyberpowerPC Fusion Slim-Ultra (Clevo P970ED)

- PCSpecialist Recoil II 15.6 / CyberpowerPC Tracer RTX-15 Slim (TongFang GK5CP0Z)

- AW m17 - be aware of potential heatsink issue

- AW m15 - be aware of potential heatsink issue

 

Clevo and TongFang barebones have fan speed control software. AW and MSI laptops should have too

 

If you have any questions, feel free to ask me

 

Clevo resellers in UK (some are TongFang resellers):

Spoiler

http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/
http://www.novatech.co.uk
http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk
http://www.box.co.uk/
http://www.mysn.co.uk/
http://3xs.scan.co.uk/

[DarkDragon2K04]

2070 over 1070 any day