Question Regarding AMD Chipsets

[PlatinumSun]

So x370 allows me to OC more than B450? Does B450 allow me to OC more than B350?

 

The CPU being OC'd in question is the R7 1700

[GoldenLag]

Depends entierly from mobo to mobo.

 

and it mostly comes down to VRM. which varies greatly between mobos

[PlatinumSun]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Depends entierly from mobo to mobo.

 

and it mostly comes down to VRM. which varies greatly between mobos

 

What do VRM's look like? Also I thought Voltage regulators had to d with chip set.

[GoldenLag]

Just now, PlatinumSun said:

 

What do VRM's look like? Also I thought Voltage regulators had to d with chip set.

VRM is Voltage regulators. its short for Voltage regulator module (iirc)

 

they are small chips hidden under a heatsink to keep em from overheating. 

 

if you give me a budget i can point towards the best board for the price. 

 

even if you can count the ammount of phases in the VRM, the quality of the phase can vary greatly

[PlatinumSun]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/Y4kwrH/msi-b350-tomahawk-atx-am4-motherboard-b350-tomahawk

 

This board? Do you think it could clock a 1700 to its limit? Or would I need a better board?

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, PlatinumSun said:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/Y4kwrH/msi-b350-tomahawk-atx-am4-motherboard-b350-tomahawk

 

This board? Do you think it could clock a 1700 to its limit? Or would I need a better board?

bad board. 

 

what is your budget in canadian rupees. i can find the best you can have for the given budget

[PlatinumSun]

Mate you misquoted it. Its Canadian Rubles is what Linus said.

 

My budget is $1250 CAD.

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, PlatinumSun said:

Mate you misquoted it. Its Canadian Rubles is what Linus said.

 

My budget is $1250 CAD.

ye. idc i use canadian rupees. 

[PlatinumSun]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

ye. idc i use canadian rupees. 

Personally I use Kanuckistan Hyrvnia.

[Zando_]

11 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

bad board. 

The MSI B350 and B450 Tomahawk are the best midrange B series boards AFAIK. 

[GoldenLag]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

The MSI B350 and B450 Tomahawk are the best midrange B series boards AFAIK. 

B350 MSI boards suck. they should be avoided.

[Zando_]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

B350 MSI boards suck. they should be avoided.

Specifically the Tomahawk, no. The rest were garbage, Tomahawk was solid, and the B450 one is even better. 

[YaBoiWill]

The Asus b350+ seems to do the job for me, overclocked my 1600 to 4.1 at 1.4v

Whether the VRMs are overheating I have no idea, and don't care tbh, its achieving the speeds I want, so I'm happy. 

[PlatinumSun]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

B350 MSI boards suck. they should be avoided.

I think I remember reading something about the capcitors on the B350 MSI boards being rubbish now that I think about it.

 

Besides that would the b450 allow for more OC than the b350? Or would I need an x370 ir x470 to get the most OC from a R7 1700.

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, PlatinumSun said:

I think I remember reading something about the capcitors on the B350 MSI boards being rubbish now that I think about it.

 

Besides that would the b450 allow for more OC than the b350? Or would I need an x370 ir x470 to get the most OC from a R7 1700.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($199.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($189.99 @ Memory Express) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($74.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($90.25 @ shopRBC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($67.99 @ Powertop) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING Video Card  ($464.00 @ Canada Computers) 
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Total: $1217.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-06 11:11 EST-0500

 

here you go. here is a neat build with a great OC mobo.

[GoldenLag]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($199.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($123.55 @ Amazon Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($71.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($90.25 @ shopRBC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($67.99 @ Powertop) 
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8 GB ROG STRIX Video Card  ($569.99 @ Memory Express) 
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($56.95 @ Vuugo) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Total: $1250.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-06 11:18 EST-0500

 

a better GPU and a worse OC mobo, but the OC mobo is still good. 

[PlatinumSun]

I dont know about the 2060 is there something cheaper, and a cheaper MOBO? I mean the RTX bit in the 2060 is wasted shave a little more money off to get a Lian Li O11(My fav case.) and some fans.

 

why would I spend so much money on the Vega 64? What can it do that makes it so great? Can it get 144fps on 1440p? Can it do 4k? I mean then I need to get an expensive monitor if I do 4K. Speaking of monitors what would you recommend Ive looked at monitors but theres so many choices and there so expensive I don't know what to choose.

 

That Fractal and Cougar case looks good too and they are cheap. But besides that I would still like to shave some more money off the GPU and MOBO. What would you recommend?

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, PlatinumSun said:

I mean the RTX bit in the 2060 is wasted shave a little more money off to get a Lian Li O11(My fav case.) and some fans.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($199.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($189.99 @ Memory Express) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($74.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($90.25 @ shopRBC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($67.99 @ Powertop) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB GAMING Video Card  ($369.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Total: $1123.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-06 11:31 EST-0500

 

there is allways the 1660ti. 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/4t3H99/asus-radeon-rx-vega-56-8gb-rog-strix-video-card-rog-strix-rxvega56-o8g-gaming

or vega 56 which is a tad bit expencive, but faster tha the 1660ti

6 minutes ago, PlatinumSun said:

That Fractal and Cougar case looks good too and they are cheap. But besides that I would still like to shave some more money off the GPU and MOBO. What would you recommend?

the other build had a cheaper mobo. or you can grab these:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/4D7v6h/msi-x470-gaming-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-x470-gaming-plus

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/TWzkcf/gigabyte-x470-aorus-ultra-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-x470-aorus-ultra-gaming

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/Hy97YJ/msi-b450-tomahawk-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-tomahawk

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/gMQG3C/gigabyte-b450-aorus-elite-atx-AM4-motherboard-b450-aorus-elite

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/ps8j4D/asrock-x370-pro4-atx-am4-motherboard-x370-pro4

 

in falling favorability. 

 

11 minutes ago, PlatinumSun said:

why would I spend so much money on the Vega 64? What can it do that makes it so great? Can it get 144fps on 1440p?

its a good 1440p card, yes. 

[Brent744]

If you plan to do a lot of overclocking you should go with a x370 or x470 over any 350 or 450 boards. For example I can overclock my Ryzen 5 2600 to 4.2 GHz however, something on my motherboard becomes almost 20C hotter than the cpu and the system crashes.

[PlatinumSun]

21 minutes ago, Brent744 said:

If you plan to do a lot of overclocking you should go with a x370 or x470 over any 350 or 450 boards. For example I can overclock my Ryzen 5 2600 to 4.2 GHz however, something on my motherboard becomes almost 20C hotter than the cpu and the system crashes.

Thanks.

[PlatinumSun]

It just feels wrong to buy the RTX cards because even with the RTX 2080ti in 2 years it wont be able to do RT on the new titles and keep 60FPS as RT is so intensive.

 

The RTX2060 is great but it cant do RT without FPS going below 60 even at 1080p. So even though its worth the money for its general performance boost im a very fiscal person so the extra cost because of the Turing cores and loss of value feels wrong to buy.

[GoldenLag]

8 minutes ago, PlatinumSun said:

It just feels wrong to buy the RTX cards because even with the RTX 2080ti in 2 years it wont be able to do RT on the new titles and keep 60FPS as RT is so intensive.

 

The RTX2060 is great but it cant do RT without FPS going below 60 even at 1080p. So even though its worth the money for its general performance boost im a very fiscal person so the extra cost because of the Turing cores and loss of value feels wrong to buy.

buy a vega then or the 1660ti. 

[PlatinumSun]

Thanks for all the help guys have your selves a great day!