Questions about two gpu

[SGBudgetGamer]

My friend that introduced pc gaming to me came to my house to see my first gaming computer, he said I made a bad choice going with the vega 56 and not a rtx 2060. Here are the reasons

Last gen graphics card 

No dlss

No ray tracing

Weaker vram (gddr6 vs hbm2) 

Is a Voltage Vampire (my vega 56)

I went to check online, a standard rtx 2060 6gb is double the price of my card and has less vram. I don't know does any of my games use ray tracing or not but it works fine for me. I'm still watching vids on what dlss is still don't understand so sorry, when I play my game (World of. Tanks) I still get 118fps on my ultra-wide 1440p so no complaints. Other then the higher power draw I really don't see why my card is bad for my system. 

PowerColor RX Vega 56 8gb sgd$428.00

Gigabyte RTX 2060 6gb windforce twin fan OC sgd$868.00

Did I really make a bad buy? 

What is dlss? 

[Crunchy Dragon]

Vega 56 isn't a bad card as long as you can keep it cool and fed, it's similar to the FX series CPUs in that respect.

 

If you don't have any problems, then you have no reason to change anything in your system.

[Guest]

Vega 56 is current gen, don't worry Its a solid graphics card. As long as you are happy with your system its all good. Enjoy your new computer. 

[SGBudgetGamer]

4 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Vega 56 isn't a bad card as long as you can keep it cool and fed, it's similar to the FX series CPUs in that respect.

 

If you don't have any problems, then you have no reason to change anything in your system.

The shop owner recommended I got a 750w psu and I did, so far no problem but what he said about dlss and ray tracing without them will that be a problem for me in the next few years? 

[SGBudgetGamer]

2 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

Vega 56 is current gen, don't worry Its a solid graphics card. As long as you are happy with your system its all good. Enjoy your new computer. 

Thank you

[Stefan Payne]

3 minutes ago, SGBudgetGamer said:

My friend that introduced pc gaming to me came to my house to see my first gaming computer, he said I made a bad choice going with the vega 56 and not a rtx 2060

He's wrong.

Don't give a thing about what other people are saying, as long as YOU like it, its fine.

He doesn't need to like it...

 

3 minutes ago, SGBudgetGamer said:

Last gen graphics card 

Its not like RTX brought much new to the table.

But in general, that's not really an argument.

 

3 minutes ago, SGBudgetGamer said:

No dlss

No ray tracing

Isn't really supported and that's mostly a driver thing anyway, so its entirely possible that AMD might bring that to your VEGA Card as well, as there is a more or less open API for that stuff.

 

And DLSS is some Marketing bullshit that isn't really supported yet or known how it works.

 

3 minutes ago, SGBudgetGamer said:

Weaker vram (gddr6 vs hbm2) 

That's not true. You can mention Volta in this case, wich also has HBM2 Memory.

There are certain Advantages and only really one huge disadvantage and that's the price of the memory.

 

In terms of bandwith per watt or overall bandwith, its superior.

 

As for the Bandwith: 
GTX 2060 has 336GiB/Sec:

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-2060.c3310

 

VEGA 56 has 410GiB/Sec:

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-vega-56.c2993

 

3 minutes ago, SGBudgetGamer said:

Is a Voltage Vampire (my vega 56)

You can optimize the Power Consumption and there's a ton of Guides on the Internet.

You loose a bit Performance but gain way higher power efficiency, especially with undervolting.

AMD tends to be a bit on the higher side in terms of voltage.

The disadvantage is that there is a higher power consumption but it gives better stability...

 

3 minutes ago, SGBudgetGamer said:

I went to check online, a standard rtx 2060 6gb is double the price of my card and has less vram.

...wich makes your VEGA56 a very good deal...

So I'd say that he has the, what we call here, "dangerous half-knowledge" or is told by other people that nVidia is better without checking the facts for himself.

 

3 minutes ago, SGBudgetGamer said:

Did I really make a bad buy? 

No, you didn't.

As said, you need to like the stuff and not him.

So whatever he says should not be important to him.

 

You can argue that there are company policy things that are also important when deciding on purchasing a product.

 

In terms of Graphics cards, the Geforce Partner Programme is one of those things as it was nVidia trying to ban manufacturers from using competing products under the same name.

Another thing is the tendency to make proprietary shit at the cost of the Customer - their Adaptive Sync thing called "G-Sync" is one of those.

And IMO, since they are also sitting in the VESA Comitee, they've seen someone (maybe AMD? Maybe someone else) pushing for adaptive sync and hastily made something proprietary with a programmable chip that does what its programmed to do (its called an FPGA and is basically a Chip that you can say what it should do or be, for whatever you need it ot be).

 

3 minutes ago, SGBudgetGamer said:

What is dlss? 

It stands for "Deep Learning Super Sampling" and is some kind of vendor specific upsampling/Anti Aliasing technique.

 

My guess is that nVidia determines how that works in the game in their renderfarms that they have (and also use for driver optimization) to make their products look good.

If that is an awesome feature or just some form of cheating - as nobody really knows what it really does - or walled garden...

 

 

In short:
You did not buy something wrong.

there are reasons to buy your card.

[Herman Mcpootis]

24 minutes ago, SGBudgetGamer said:

My friend that introduced pc gaming to me came to my house to see my first gaming computer, he said I made a bad choice going with the vega 56 and not a rtx 2060. Here are the reasons

Last gen graphics card 

No dlss

No ray tracing

Weaker vram (gddr6 vs hbm2) 

Is a Voltage Vampire (my vega 56)

I went to check online, a standard rtx 2060 6gb is double the price of my card and has less vram. I don't know does any of my games use ray tracing or not but it works fine for me. I'm still watching vids on what dlss is still don't understand so sorry, when I play my game (World of. Tanks) I still get 118fps on my ultra-wide 1440p so no complaints. Other then the higher power draw I really don't see why my card is bad for my system. 

PowerColor RX Vega 56 8gb sgd$428.00

Gigabyte RTX 2060 6gb windforce twin fan OC sgd$868.00

Did I really make a bad buy? 

What is dlss? 

the cheapest 2060 off lazada is $509, it's slightly faster on average but your vega 56 is a better deal.

[SGBudgetGamer]

10 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

He's wrong.

Don't give a thing about what other people are saying, as long as YOU like it, its fine.

He doesn't need to like it...

 

Its not like RTX brought much new to the table.

But in general, that's not really an argument.

 

Isn't really supported and that's mostly a driver thing anyway, so its entirely possible that AMD might bring that to your VEGA Card as well, as there is a more or less open API for that stuff.

 

And DLSS is some Marketing bullshit that isn't really supported yet or known how it works.

 

That's not true. You can mention Volta in this case, wich also has HBM2 Memory.

There are certain Advantages and only really one huge disadvantage and that's the price of the memory.

 

In terms of bandwith per watt or overall bandwith, its superior.

 

As for the Bandwith: 
GTX 2060 has 336GiB/Sec:

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-2060.c3310

 

VEGA 56 has 410GiB/Sec:

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-vega-56.c2993

 

You can optimize the Power Consumption and there's a ton of Guides on the Internet.

You loose a bit Performance but gain way higher power efficiency, especially with undervolting.

AMD tends to be a bit on the higher side in terms of voltage.

The disadvantage is that there is a higher power consumption but it gives better stability...

 

...wich makes your VEGA56 a very good deal...

So I'd say that he has the, what we call here, "dangerous half-knowledge" or is told by other people that nVidia is better without checking the facts for himself.

 

No, you didn't.

As said, you need to like the stuff and not him.

So whatever he says should not be important to him.

 

You can argue that there are company policy things that are also important when deciding on purchasing a product.

 

In terms of Graphics cards, the Geforce Partner Programme is one of those things as it was nVidia trying to ban manufacturers from using competing products under the same name.

Another thing is the tendency to make proprietary shit at the cost of the Customer - their Adaptive Sync thing called "G-Sync" is one of those.

And IMO, since they are also sitting in the VESA Comitee, they've seen someone (maybe AMD? Maybe someone else) pushing for adaptive sync and hastily made something proprietary with a programmable chip that does what its programmed to do (its called an FPGA and is basically a Chip that you can say what it should do or be, for whatever you need it ot be).

 

It stands for "Deep Learning Super Sampling" and is some kind of vendor specific upsampling/Anti Aliasing technique.

 

My guess is that nVidia determines how that works in the game in their renderfarms that they have (and also use for driver optimization) to make their products look good.

If that is an awesome feature or just some form of cheating - as nobody really knows what it really does - or walled garden...

 

 

In short:
You did not buy something wrong.

there are reasons to buy your card.

oo lucky I didn't spend on the RTX then, so dlss isn't that important -.- he made it sound like it was such a big deal. As I'd my card without dlss and ray tracing was so inferior to his, and my v am doesn't really lose to his either and I got 2gb more too

[Quadriplegic]

1. HBM2 is better VRAM than GDDR6.
2. DLSS and Ray Tracing won't be implemented on global scale anytime soon. By the time it happens, 2060 won't be able to run those features well.

3. Power consumption won't be that different once you undervolt the card. There won't be much difference in temperatures either. I mean, AIB 2060 cards get to ~65C while gaming, right? Vega 56 gets to 70-71C. Not a major difference.