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4 hours ago, Hypernyte said:

can you please explain a little more.

I'm not getting it ?

Okay, a spinning Harddrive can have what's called a bad sector, which means a particular areas in the drive that are malfunctioning and loosing its read and write capabilities.

If you happens to have a file located within that sector, the file can be currupted and cannot be used, if that files happens to be important windows files, the OS will have some problems.

Bad sectors are one of many HDD problems, some others are dead motors, jammed head, dead pcb etc.

There are 2 types of bad sector, software and hardware, the software ones can be remedied, but hardware ones are often permanent.

Sudden slowness of the pc usually have something to do with HDD malfunction, but not always.

You can check weather the hdd has one by doing a surface test, since you have seagate hdd you can download the SeaTools here:

https://www.seagate.com/files/www-content/support-content/downloads/seatools/_shared/downloads/SeaToolsforWindowsSetup.exe

read the manuals here http://knowledge.seagate.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/202435en

You would like to perform basic test first, if there's no problem detected, continue to the next one untill the long test (no need to do advance test).

If no problems detected in your HDD you can perform the second test which is memory test.

 

Its pretty simple, i don't have to explain it, just download Memtest86.

https://www.memtest86.com/downloads/memtest86-usb.zip

This program needs to be run outside windows, so you need a USB drive.

Run imageUsb.exe and select the usb drive and click write, it will create the bootable usb drive for you.

Next is to boot to the usb, in BIOS select the usb as the 1st boot drive.

after boot, just select start test (or press S).

 

Now if those test are passed, you can point your finger to something else. ?

 

 

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hey guys i have a new built pc with the following specs:-

intel i3 7100

gigabyte GA-H110M-S2

crusial 8gb ram

gtx 1050 ti asus (single fan)

seagate barracuda 1tb

corsair vs450 

 

my system was working perfectly fine for the past 5 months and all of a sudden i got a windows update and the next time i tried to boot it got stuck in my motherboard loading page, i let it run for for 3 hours and nothing happened .

I tried booting up several times but same result.

so i fresh installed windows 10 pro, it booted up but very slow,installed chrome and wifi driver but i wasn't able to install my gtx 1050ti drives directly or through geforce experience.

please help me.

thank you, sorry for bad english. 

 

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The problem is you don't have an SSD, Windows 10 does not run well on HDDs.

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I would reinstall or reset cmos 

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You might have a bad sector on your harddrive, examine do a full (surface) test right away.

The problem may not be a windows update fault, but your hardware malfunctioning.

Check the memory stick (Memtest86) and the Harddrive.

If you can't access your PC, do it in others / borrow one.

 

19 minutes ago, jj9987 said:

The problem is you don't have an SSD, Windows 10 does not run well on HDDs.

This is a fallacy, Windows will run just fine with HDD, just a bit less responsive.

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23 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

This is a fallacy, Windows will run just fine with HDD, just a bit less responsive.

Actually speaking from personal experience - a laptop with HDD not even half-way through it's life (tested). Switched it back to Windows 7.

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Clone the HDD over to an SSD and see if the performance is still sluggish...If it is, you know it is a problem with the OS, if not you know its a problem with the HDD. 

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20 hours ago, SupaKomputa said:

You might have a bad sector on your harddrive, examine do a full (surface) test right away.

The problem may not be a windows update fault, but your hardware malfunctioning.

Check the memory stick (Memtest86) and the Harddrive.

If you can't access your PC, do it in others / borrow one.

 

This is a fallacy, Windows will run just fine with HDD, just a bit less responsive.

can you please explain a little more.

I'm not getting it ?

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20 hours ago, JohnDongus said:

I would reinstall or reset cmos 

reinstall what and thank u i will reset cmos

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4 hours ago, Hypernyte said:

can you please explain a little more.

I'm not getting it ?

Okay, a spinning Harddrive can have what's called a bad sector, which means a particular areas in the drive that are malfunctioning and loosing its read and write capabilities.

If you happens to have a file located within that sector, the file can be currupted and cannot be used, if that files happens to be important windows files, the OS will have some problems.

Bad sectors are one of many HDD problems, some others are dead motors, jammed head, dead pcb etc.

There are 2 types of bad sector, software and hardware, the software ones can be remedied, but hardware ones are often permanent.

Sudden slowness of the pc usually have something to do with HDD malfunction, but not always.

You can check weather the hdd has one by doing a surface test, since you have seagate hdd you can download the SeaTools here:

https://www.seagate.com/files/www-content/support-content/downloads/seatools/_shared/downloads/SeaToolsforWindowsSetup.exe

read the manuals here http://knowledge.seagate.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/202435en

You would like to perform basic test first, if there's no problem detected, continue to the next one untill the long test (no need to do advance test).

If no problems detected in your HDD you can perform the second test which is memory test.

 

Its pretty simple, i don't have to explain it, just download Memtest86.

https://www.memtest86.com/downloads/memtest86-usb.zip

This program needs to be run outside windows, so you need a USB drive.

Run imageUsb.exe and select the usb drive and click write, it will create the bootable usb drive for you.

Next is to boot to the usb, in BIOS select the usb as the 1st boot drive.

after boot, just select start test (or press S).

 

Now if those test are passed, you can point your finger to something else. ?

 

 

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18 hours ago, SupaKomputa said:

Okay, a spinning Harddrive can have what's called a bad sector, which means a particular areas in the drive that are malfunctioning and loosing its read and write capabilities.

If you happens to have a file located within that sector, the file can be currupted and cannot be used, if that files happens to be important windows files, the OS will have some problems.

Bad sectors are one of many HDD problems, some others are dead motors, jammed head, dead pcb etc.

There are 2 types of bad sector, software and hardware, the software ones can be remedied, but hardware ones are often permanent.

Sudden slowness of the pc usually have something to do with HDD malfunction, but not always.

You can check weather the hdd has one by doing a surface test, since you have seagate hdd you can download the SeaTools here:

https://www.seagate.com/files/www-content/support-content/downloads/seatools/_shared/downloads/SeaToolsforWindowsSetup.exe

read the manuals here http://knowledge.seagate.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/202435en

You would like to perform basic test first, if there's no problem detected, continue to the next one untill the long test (no need to do advance test).

If no problems detected in your HDD you can perform the second test which is memory test.

 

Its pretty simple, i don't have to explain it, just download Memtest86.

https://www.memtest86.com/downloads/memtest86-usb.zip

This program needs to be run outside windows, so you need a USB drive.

Run imageUsb.exe and select the usb drive and click write, it will create the bootable usb drive for you.

Next is to boot to the usb, in BIOS select the usb as the 1st boot drive.

after boot, just select start test (or press S).

 

Now if those test are passed, you can point your finger to something else. ?

 

 

Thank you I will do all the tests☺️

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