new budget build

[ssyed]

i wanna build a pc for medium level gaming (gaming capable , maybe 60fps at medium settings)

instead of putting money in on a gpu i was thinking about buying a ryzen apu

i live in INDIA, my budget is inr 35,000   comes to about usd 500 (but the prices of components vary in india )

 

 PLAN:

cpu: amd ryzen apu (gaming capable-medium settings ) ( i am thinking about using a wraith spire cooler )

mobo: trying for a micro atx

psu; PICO-PSU (idk how many watts the psu should be)

 

things i already have:

ram: ddr4 tridentZ 3200mhz  16gb ( i already own this)

cabin: 3d printed micro ATX box ( this wouldnt cost me anything)

storage: m2 ssd 120gb +500gb hdd ( i already own these)

 

 

any thoughts and upgrades parts recommendations would be much appreciated

 

 

[TH3R34P3R]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	₹13340.00 @ Amazon India
Motherboard	MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard	₹11300.00 @ Amazon India
Power Supply	Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	₹8750.00 @ Amazon India
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	₹33390.00
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-10 21:33 IST+0530

 if you wanted the APU. 

[lmeneses]

13 minutes ago, TH3R34P3R said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	₹13340.00 @ Amazon India
Motherboard	MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard	₹11300.00 @ Amazon India
Power Supply	Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	₹8750.00 @ Amazon India
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	₹33390.00
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-10 21:33 IST+0530

 if you wanted the APU. 

I would get a 2200g and slap a rx570 in there instead of using the apu 

[TH3R34P3R]

1 minute ago, lmeneses said:

I would get a 2200g and slap a rx570 in there instead of using the apu 

prices in india are FUCKED. its so bad there. a rx 570 is 20000 Rupee. 

[ssyed]

1 minute ago, lmeneses said:

I would get a 2200g and slap a rx570 in there instead of using the apu 

rx570 costs $300 in India

[lmeneses]

2 minutes ago, TH3R34P3R said:

prices in india are FUCKED. its so bad there. a rx 570 is 20000 Rupee. 

 

2 minutes ago, ssyed said:

rx570 costs $300 in India

oh well nvm HA

[Manderis]

Having the ram and the ssd helps you quite much. I thought You could go discrete gpu. 

 

But I checked and prices are shit in India. Wtf. You should easily be able to make a 2200g and rx570/580 build for 500$ if you have the ram

[Manderis]

Is (legally) importing not possible? I suppose it's not but might worth checking. 

 

Even with 60$ shipping things would still be cheaper

[ssyed]

54 minutes ago, Manderis said:

Is (legally) importing not possible? I suppose it's not but might worth checking. 

 

Even with 60$ shipping things would still be cheaper

nah its not worth the hassle

 

[ssyed]

does anyone know if a picopsu is enough to power this machine

 

[Manderis]

Why go full diy? You can get a ok psu for 40 $, probably 4000-5000 rupees. How much is a picopsu with 150 Watt? 

1500 Watt would be enough but no room for any upgrade like a gpu in the future. 

[ssyed]

if anyone is wondering if i am being stingy with my budget.

 

well... it is because my monthly budget is negative 51,000 everymonth (college fees and other expenses) i earn around 55k every month if i work around  48 hours per week in addition to the 52 hours per week i work without any pay(because its an internship and i start getting paid after 6 months... sooo... every single rupee counts..

i can always ask my parents for money but i dont wanna do that

 p.s i am trying to keep the budget under 25k and if it goes 35k then the whole build gets postponed to next month

[Manderis]

PCPartPicker part list: https://in.pcpartpicker.com/list/VdpzVY
Price breakdown by merchant: https://in.pcpartpicker.com/list/VdpzVY/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  (₹12917.00 @ Amazon India) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (₹9129.82 @ Amazon India) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (₹4200.00 @ Amazon India) 
Total: ₹26246.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-10 23:14 IST+0530

 

Maybe something like that and you can get a used gtx 970/980 or rx580/570 480/470 somewhere for a good price. 

[Manderis]

15 minutes ago, ssyed said:

if anyone is wondering if i am being stingy with my budget.

 

well... it is because my monthly budget is negative 51,000 everymonth (college fees and other expenses) i earn around 55k every month if i work around  48 hours per week in addition to the 52 hours per week i work without any pay(because its an internship and i start getting paid after 6 months... sooo... every single rupee counts..

i can always ask my parents for money but i dont wanna do that

 p.s i am trying to keep the budget under 25k and if it goes 35k then the whole build gets postponed to next month

No one is going to judge you for your budget. You can only spend what you have, don't you? 

 

 

 

It is basically just brainstorming to get the most performance for your money. 

 

 

 

If you can't get a cheap used gpu go ryzen 3 2200g with asrock b350 pro4 and some cheap atx psu with around 450w which you trust enough not to blow up into a fire ball after some use. You can always upgrade down the line 

[ssyed]

can somone please suggest micro atx boards

because i can only print a micro atx case on a 3d printer

 

about motherboards whats the advice on buying one of these

 

a

https://www.amazon.in/GIGABYTE-GA-A320M-S2H-MAX-32GB-Micro-PCIE16/dp/B079NYQQJJ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1547142662&sr=8-3&keywords=micro+atx+motherboard+am4

 

b

https://www.amazon.in/Asus-PRIME-A320M-K-AM4-Motherboard/dp/B06ZY2F35X/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1547142662&sr=8-2&keywords=micro+atx+motherboard+am4

[Manderis]

I would make the investment in a b350/450 chipset motherboard. If you go for value you might as well overclock you hardware a fair bit. 

 

Or better, go used hardware and overclock. You will get good price to performance. Because usually you can get a decent gaming experience for 500 ish $ and a 2200g with a rx570/580 is a great value for all new. But as i see it prices in india are fucked up for some reason. Probably import taxes or smth. 

 

I see 3 main ways for you to go:

1. Buy new and go for upgradeability:

Ryzen 3 2200g

Cheap B350/450 mATX Mobo

Okisch PSU

around 25000 rupees

And you might get a GPU in the future (used or new)

 

2. Second gen:

Ryzen 5 1600

Cheap B350/450 mATX Mobo

Okisch PSU

cheap 1050ti

~35000 rupees

 

3. Used market

I don't know your lokal used market. 

Maybe you get lucky and maybe it is no option at all.

 

 

And one question. How accurate is PcPartPicker with pricing in India? Have you checked other comparison sites? In germany pcpp fails to find the best deal most of the time and with a lokal site i find prices ~10% less

 

[TH3R34P3R]

18 hours ago, Manderis said:

And one question. How accurate is PcPartPicker with pricing in India? Have you checked other comparison sites? In germany pcpp fails to find the best deal most of the time and with a lokal site i find prices ~10% less

it only does amazon india... so that hurts everything. 

[ssyed]

before i go ahead and start putting money in boxes

i was wondering why every budget build i see suggests ryzen 3 2200g

also the userbenchmark  website also gives ryzen 3 apu has 5% above the ryzen 5 apu

 

so i am wondering if ryzen 5 is just a 50% increase in price tag but very little performance

 

so should i change my mind and opt for the ryzen 3 apu instead of the other one