Some Help For First Pc Build

[Thimo.K]

Hey guys, so im planning on fully building my own pc and trying to keep it on a budget.
So i want to ask you guys for some advice on wich RAM and wich PSU i should buy, and if i could maybe improve on some stuff for less or just a bit more.
Here is the full build+links, it is from a Dutch site but i think and hope you guys can see the important info.

Case: Corsair Carbide 100R Silent Edition / €58.55
https://www.megekko.nl/product/2013/375080/

Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE / €95.55
https://www.megekko.nl/product/4286/239535/

Processor (CPU): AMD Ryzen 5 2600 / €163.00

https://www.megekko.nl/product/4278/999983/
CPU Cooler: Included with the CPU / 0.00

Grapics Card (GPU): GTX 1060 6GB (buying second hand) / Around €190.00

 
RAM: Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX 1x8GB 2666 C16 / €59.90

https://www.megekko.nl/product/2046/351393/

OR
Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX 1x8GB 2400 / €55.90
https://www.megekko.nl/product/2046/123441/
First Choice But I think it is not supported by my motherboard
Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX 1x8GB 3000 / €62.04

https://www.megekko.nl/product/2046/1747162/

Powersupply (PSU): Cooler Master MWE Bronze 550 / €49.04
https://www.megekko.nl/product/4186/208785/
Alternative Powersupply: Cooler Master MWE Bronze 450 / €40.55
https://www.megekko.nl/product/4186/208784/PC-Voedingen-PSU-/Cooler-Master-MWE-Bronze-450

Storage: 1x 1TB Wester Digital Harddrive, for Big Storage (Already Owned) And 1x Gigabyte SSD 128GB NVME M.2, for booting. / €35.90
SSD Link: https://www.megekko.nl/product/5093/244504/

Case Fans: Only Need 2 more, probably going for some cheap, but silent 120mm ones on a deal.

[Vandorlot]

All those ram works with your motherboard, go for 3000 mhz ramand turn on XMP in your bios. 

[Jurrunio]

none of these memory let you use dual channel, so unless you get 2 sticks they are all bad. High frequency is better than lower ones for the price.

 

Arctic F12 are decent cheap fans

[aaronhare]

I would recommend the Corsair Vengeance LPX 1x8GB 2666 C16 or the Corsair Vengeance LPX 1x8GB 2400 as these have XMP support. Other than that all sticks of the ram work about the same (except for the speed). For fans, I would pick up a pair of Arctic F12's. Overall I would pick the Corsair Vengeance LPX 1x8GB 2400 as it has the fastest speeds. I hope this helped, Aaron

[Swes]

You really want to try and go for dual channel in the system so if possible get 2 stick/dimms. PSU looks fine to me. 

 

128 gig SSD is a bit small and its still SATA so if you can buy a 2.5 inch to save some cash I would. It will get the job done but its definitely a boot only drive.

[LukeSavenije]

het is al laat...

i used german prices btw, as dutch pcpartpicker is paradigit only, and german prices are really close to dutch ones. here you go

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	€158.89 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard	ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	€76.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	€109.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage	Kingston - A400 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	€21.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	Purchased For €0.00
Video Card	XFX - Radeon RX 580 8 GB GTS XXX ED Video Card	€189.00 @ Mindfactory
Case	Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case	€39.90 @ Caseking
Power Supply	be quiet! - Pure Power 11 400 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	€56.90 @ Caseking
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€653.57
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-06 02:20 CET+0100

 

[Thimo.K]

10 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

none of these memory let you use dual channel, so unless you get 2 sticks they are all bad. High frequency is better than lower ones for the price.

 

Arctic F12 are decent cheap fans

Tnx for the reply, so would it than be smart to maybe get 2x4gb sticks?
And where can i see if it uses Dual Channel?

[Thimo.K]

11 minutes ago, AaronsDev said:

I would recommend the Corsair Vengeance LPX 1x8GB 2666 C16 or the Corsair Vengeance LPX 1x8GB 2400 as these have XMP support. Other than that all sticks of the ram work about the same (except for the speed). For fans, I would pick up a pair of Arctic F12's. Overall I would pick the Corsair Vengeance LPX 1x8GB 2400 as it has the fastest speeds. I hope this helped, Aaron

Tnx for the reply, maybe i understood the speeds wrong but isnt the 2666 C16 one quikcer than the 2400 one?

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, Thimo.K said:

Tnx for the reply, so would it than be smart to maybe get 2x4gb sticks?
And where can i see if it uses Dual Channel?

yes.

 

If it has even number of sticks then it can use dual channel. Just make sure you don't put sticks into the wrong slots.

[aaronhare]

1 minute ago, Thimo.K said:

Tnx for the reply, maybe i understood the speeds wrong but isnt the 2666 C16 one quikcer than the 2400 one?

Sorry I typed out the wrong product. I meant that the fastest memory is the Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 but it doesn't have XML support. Sorry for the confusion!

[Thimo.K]

5 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

het is al laat...

i used german prices btw, as dutch pcpartpicker is paradigit only, and german prices are really close to dutch ones. here you go

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	€158.89 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard	ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	€76.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	€109.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage	Kingston - A400 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	€21.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	Purchased For €0.00
Video Card	XFX - Radeon RX 580 8 GB GTS XXX ED Video Card	€189.00 @ Mindfactory
Case	Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case	€39.90 @ Caseking
Power Supply	be quiet! - Pure Power 11 400 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	€56.90 @ Caseking
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€653.57
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-06 02:20 CET+0100

 

Tnx for the reply and special thanks for taking the tike to put a whole list together.
To be honest, a micro ATX would safe some money on some parts, but i do like the bigger feeling of a ATX.
I looked for the parts from a Dutch reliable site so that its close to home and if i have problems it wouldn't be a problem solving them.
I have some problems with some of the items tho, the first one being the memory, i did some research and 8GB will be enough for me because i aint planning on streaming or multitasking while gaming, the second one being the video card, i dont have much experience with AMD video cards but if it will safe me some money and get me better performances than i will be prepared to look in to it more, and the last one being the powersupply, the 80+ gold rated PSU will yearly only safe you around 3-5 euros on electricity while paying 15euros more at once.
If you have some more recommandations i would love to hear them!
 

[Thimo.K]

7 minutes ago, AaronsDev said:

Sorry I typed out the wrong product. I meant that the fastest memory is the Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 but it doesn't have XML support. Sorry for the confusion!

No problem man, no need to appolagise, better ask and make it clear than being confused!

[Thimo.K]

11 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

yes.

 

If it has even number of sticks then it can use dual channel. Just make sure you don't put sticks into the wrong slots.

Yea i understood that an even amount of cards is good and the slot to use is in the manual of the motherboard, but does it matter if I use 1x 8gb stick or if I use 2x 4GB because it is still the same amount of RAM, it are not different types or RAM and the 1x 8GB one maybe have more Mhz than the 2x 4gb when looking for the same price range.

[Jurrunio]

9 minutes ago, Thimo.K said:

Yea i understood that an even amount of cards is good and the slot to use is in the manual of the motherboard, but does it matter if I use 1x 8gb stick or if I use 2x 4GB because it is still the same amount of RAM, it are not different types or RAM and the 1x 8GB one maybe have more Mhz than the 2x 4gb when looking for the same price range.

it's the same amount but dual channel has in theory double the bandwidth (in practice more like 80% extra bandwidth).

[LukeSavenije]

11 minutes ago, Thimo.K said:

Tnx for the reply and special thanks for taking the tike to put a whole list together.
To be honest, a micro ATX would safe some money on some parts, but i do like the bigger feeling of a ATX.
I looked for the parts from a Dutch reliable site so that its close to home and if i have problems it wouldn't be a problem solving them.
I have some problems with some of the items tho, the first one being the memory, i did some research and 8GB will be enough for me because i aint planning on streaming or multitasking while gaming, the second one being the video card, i dont have much experience with AMD video cards but if it will safe me some money and get me better performances than i will be prepared to look in to it more, and the last one being the powersupply, the 80+ gold rated PSU will yearly only safe you around 3-5 euros on electricity while paying 15euros more at once.
If you have some more recommandations i would love to hear them!
 

well, tweakers.net is really good to check some prices. only reliable shops are listed there. this was just for info. you could get the atx version of the board with a focus g for example... if you only want 8 gigs, get it in a 2x4 3000 mhz+ kit then... amd cards do give a great value, the 580 is as powerfull as a 1060 6gb for most of the times a lot less. for the psu it wasn't only for your bills, but for the quality of the unit too. the pure power 11 is a great built psu, and totally worth the extra 15 bucks over that cooler master, as I'm not the biggest fan of the mwe

[Thimo.K]

5 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

well, tweakers.net is really good to check some prices. only reliable shops are listed there. this was just for info. you could get the atx version of the board with a focus g for example... if you only want 8 gigs, get it in a 2x4 3000 mhz+ kit then... amd cards do give a great value, the 580 is as powerfull as a 1060 6gb for most of the times a lot less. for the psu it wasn't only for your bills, but for the quality of the unit too. the pure power 11 is a great built psu, and totally worth the extra 15 bucks over that cooler master, as I'm not the biggest fan of the mwe

Thanks for the explanation man, but one thing still is the RAM speed, i get and see that 2x4gb is better but is the 3000 mhz that necessary?
I watched some videos before where it explained that around 2400/2600 is already just enough.

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, Thimo.K said:

Thanks for the explanation man, but one thing still is the RAM speed, i get and see that 2x4gb is better but is the 3000 mhz that necessary?
I watched some videos before where it explained that around 2400/2600 is already just enough.

necessary? no. does it give a fair bump in performence? yes

[Thimo.K]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

necessary? no. does it give a fair bump in performence? yes

As in a fair bump, what are we talking about than? Because like I said (but i will look in to it to be more sure about it, or to get proven wrong) alot of them said that above 2666 doesnt improve alot for gaming, for editing and rendering stuff (i dont do stuff like that) it would improve quite a bit tho.
if im rlly wrong plz tell me so because I probably have less experience than alot of you guys

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, Thimo.K said:

As in a fair bump, what are we talking about than? Because like I said (but i will look in to it to be more sure about it, or to get proven wrong) alot of them said that above 2666 doesnt improve alot for gaming, for editing and rendering stuff (i dont do stuff like that) it would improve quite a bit tho.
if im rlly wrong plz tell me so because I probably have less experience than alot of you guys

yeah, that's for intel. amd gets a nice bump from it, but i can't give you exact numbers

[Thimo.K]

7 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

necessary? no. does it give a fair bump in performence? yes

Ik merk ook net pas dat je ook een Nederlander bent
 

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Thimo.K said:

Ik merk ook net pas dat je ook een Nederlander bent
 

klopt, maar ik praat altijd engels hier, zodat ik anderen niet buitensluit. hoe denk je dat ik anders Nederlandse websites en zo ken?