Need help for first PC build

[bagorlicious]

I am currently running an Asus ROG GL553VD with 1050 and looking to upgrade to a full PC. I have my gaming keyboard, mouse, and headphone. I would like recommendations for a build that is a significant upgrade to what I currently have. I aim to game at ultra 1080p or 1440p, 60+ FPS is fine as I don't do much competitive FPS.

[Fasauceome]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$259.79 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$69.99 @ B&H
Motherboard	EVGA - Z370 Classified K ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$177.69 @ Amazon
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$119.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$71.00 @ Newegg
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$44.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card	$498.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case	NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case	$69.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$79.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor	Acer - ED323QUR Abidpx 31.5" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor	$369.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1782.21
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$1762.21
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-24 13:13 EST-0500

 

[r2724r16]

20 minutes ago, bagorlicious said:

I aim to game at ultra 1080p or 1440p, 60+ FPS is fine as I don't do much competitive FPS.

What's your budget and location?

[bagorlicious]

6 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

What's your budget and location?

Around 1200-1500 USD.

[PurplDrank]

22 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$259.79 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$69.99 @ B&H
Motherboard	EVGA - Z370 Classified K ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$177.69 @ Amazon
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$119.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$71.00 @ Newegg
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$44.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card	$498.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case	NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case	$69.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$79.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor	Acer - ED323QUR Abidpx 31.5" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor	$369.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1782.21
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$1762.21
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-24 13:13 EST-0500

 

 

He can build a 9600k for cheaper. Also can find a z390 board for cheaper as well. He can also find a 1070 for cheaper as well.

 

The above build is a bad example, at that total price might as well go with the 8700k

[r2724r16]

5 minutes ago, bagorlicious said:

Around 1200-1500 USD.

Do you need a monitor? If no, check out this build: 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$259.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Noctua - NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	$79.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock - Z390 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$166.98 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$119.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$71.00 @ Newegg
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$44.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB Black Video Card	$499.99 @ B&H
Case	Fractal Design - Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower Case	$91.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$73.98 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1438.71
	Mail-in rebates	-$30.00
	Total	$1408.71
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-24 13:35 EST-0500

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, PurplDrank said:

He can build a 9600k for cheaper

The 9600k is listed for 10 cents more, and it's basically the same product so yeah of course it's the same price. I definitely don't see how a 9600k would be cheaper than an 8600k

[PurplDrank]

6 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

The 9600k is listed for 10 cents more, and it's basically the same product so yeah of course it's the same price. I definitely don't see how a 9600k would be cheaper than an 8600k

Lol so you are saying he shouldn't spend the extra ten cents for something newer......LMAO! What i meant was it is cheaper in the long run he wont have to upgrade as quick. You have him going with an almost not supported chipset as well.

 

 

Anyways,

 

here is a edit of r2724's build

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fLxDNQ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fLxDNQ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($259.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($32.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - MAG Z390 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($152.82 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($71.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Windforce OC Video Card  ($314.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($91.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1162.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-24 13:38 EST-0500

 

Saved you money in the long run and got you a z390 board for future proofing yourself a bit.

[r2724r16]

5 minutes ago, PurplDrank said:

Saved you money in the long run and got you a z390 board for future proofing yourself a bit.

You added a terrible CPU cooler (for the 9600K), a crappy motherboard, and a graphics card weaker than the RTX 1070. No shit you'll save money. 

 

And Intel is not releasing any more CPUs for the Z390 chipset (at least ones that the OP might want to upgrade to). 

 

And what exactly is "future proofing" in your words?

[PurplDrank]

15 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

You added a terrible CPU cooler (for the 9600K), a crappy motherboard, and a graphics card weaker than the RTX 1070. No shit you'll save money. 

 

And Intel is not releasing any more CPUs for the Z390 chipset (at least ones that the OP might want to upgrade to). 

 

And what exactly is "future proofing" in your words?

 

By future proofing i was referring to the other posters z370 chip set board. which is almost the same price as your z390 you posted earlier. We both saved him money in the long run either way. So no need to throw insults. I was disagreeing with dasauce's build because it is a little much, especially for the z370 chipset. You especially saved him money by going the z390. Yes your mobo is better. I was just trying to save him a touch more money. I mean really why would we make the original poster pay $20 more for an older chip set...i mean common. The motherboard you posted r272 will be better.

 

Anyways,

 

He wont need an RTX. From my readings the current RTX's out now don't have that much more performance depending on the game. What I am saying is wait for some better GPU's to come out that will be worth his while. Personally id go with a 1070 and save that extra $120 or so and put it toward a new monitor or whatever. In fact, only a handful of games only announced they will be supporting ray tracing of the rtx 2000. Will it be the next big thing? sure! Right now the 1070 is doing an excellent job of holding out for now. Right now the 2000 series are not must have upgrades or builds right now. Last time around, buying a GTX 980, which was about the same price as the GTX 1070, was a sucker move. But this year, buying a GTX 1080 or 1070 for less than a RTX 2070 might be a smart move if you’re not interested in ray-tracing. If you’re on the lookout for a card that can play any of today’s top games in 4K at high, though, the answer is clear: wait two months, and buy a GTX 1070 for likely  even less than it costs today. If you’re willing to go second-hand, you could get a real steal from someone on the second-hand market.

[Fasauceome]

23 minutes ago, PurplDrank said:

Lol so you are saying he shouldn't spend the extra ten cents for something newer......LMAO

Boggling my mind here man. They are the same age, they are nearly the same product. One has solder in it.

 

23 minutes ago, PurplDrank said:

What i meant was it is cheaper in the long run he wont have to upgrade as quick. You have him going with an almost not supported chipset as well.

None of this makes any sense. Getting an 8600k or a 9600k will put OP on the exact same time to the next upgrade. And how on Earth is the Z370 chipset supported? The Z87 chipset for 4th gen gets BIOS and updates. 

 

23 minutes ago, PurplDrank said:

future proofing

This is the Crux of your misunderstanding. There's no such thing as future proof, as nobody can see the future. The 8600k and the 9600k are equally well equipped going forward, as they have the same core count and same microarchitectures 

[PurplDrank]

1 hour ago, fasauceome said:

Boggling my mind here man. They are the same age, they are nearly the same product. One has solder in it.

 

None of this makes any sense. Getting an 8600k or a 9600k will put OP on the exact same time to the next upgrade. And how on Earth is the Z370 chipset supported? The Z87 chipset for 4th gen gets BIOS and updates.  

 

This is the Crux of your misunderstanding. There's no such thing as future proof, as nobody can see the future. The 8600k and the 9600k are equally well equipped going forward, as they have the same core count and same microarchitectures 

 

 

Heres the thing why make the OG poster pay $20 more for a older chip set when r272 found a newer chip set motherboard for cheaper. You are right, based on user benchmarks there is not a lot of difference regarding the 8600k vs 9600k. Still for almost the identical same price why not just have him buy the newer one? Performance wise yes nearly the same. However until the 8600k goes down in price. The OG poster is better off getting something newer.

 

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-9600K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-8600K/4031vs3941

 

You are right, i used the wrong terminology here regarding future proofing. I am trying to make his PC last longer while also trying to save him money. However, I still think r272's build motherboard wise is better and i am not refering to performance wise. r272 saved him about $400.

 

 

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, PurplDrank said:

I still think r272's build motherboard wise is better not performance wise of course

The ASRock board probably has similar power delivery to the board I linked, but the EVGA board has more features. They can both be upgraded the same amount, so if OP wants to have more I/O options and what not, it's a good $10 to invest. Otherwise, the 390 board would be an easy way to save.