Will my cpu bottleneck my gpu?

[MilkShaker]

Will my cpu bottleneck my gpu? heres my pc https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kJy6Ft , im getting this cpu and not the k because it is a small case and dont want overheating

[Bananasplit_00]

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[yaya1]

Which applications/games are you going to be using/playing at resolutions?

 

Also, I think I've heard of people fitting AIO coolers into that case, meaning you might be able to go for the K and overclock, although I'm really not sure about that one...  

 

[Silverplushie]

An i5 8600 won't bottleneck a 2070.

Have you looked at the compatability lists for the case? You can get better coolers that fit.

[MilkShaker]

Im 16 so the most intensive thing ill do on this is game, ive seen many people use this air cooler and it looks fine is there anything wrong with it?

Also i had someone tell me to go for a 2600 instead, would it be better?

[SkilledRebuilds]

15 hours ago, Tantabus said:

An i5 8600 won't bottleneck a 2070.

Have you looked at the compatability lists for the case? You can get better coolers that fit.

Unless you play Assassins Creed titles...

[rares495]

No, it won't. Coffe Lake cores are strong, and you've got 6 of them. Not to mention that this particular CPU turbos up to 4.3ghz. You're good, my dude.

 

As for the 2600, it won't be better in gaming. Sure, it has more threads but the cores are weaker.

[bowrilla]

1 hour ago, rares495 said:

No, it won't. Coffe Lake cores are strong, and you've got 6 of them. Not to mention that this particular CPU turbos up to 4.3ghz. You're good, my dude.

 

As for the 2600, it won't be better in gaming. Sure, it has more threads but the cores are weaker.

But since thermals are less of an issue on Ryzen and the OP's CPU of choice is a non-k version (so no OC) the difference at stock is at best marginal, if not non-existent. Beyond that you got 6c/6t vs 6c/12t and the Ryzen chip can OC easily to 4.1/4.2 probably even with the stock cooler. 

 

Not saying the i5 is bad, but since it costs about 100 bucks more, I'd definitely go Ryzen and got more money for other components.

[epsilon84]

2 hours ago, bowrilla said:

But since thermals are less of an issue on Ryzen and the OP's CPU of choice is a non-k version (so no OC) the difference at stock is at best marginal, if not non-existent. Beyond that you got 6c/6t vs 6c/12t and the Ryzen chip can OC easily to 4.1/4.2 probably even with the stock cooler. 

 

Not saying the i5 is bad, but since it costs about 100 bucks more, I'd definitely go Ryzen and got more money for other components.

Thermals are hardly an issue for either platform. The i5 8600 is a 65W CPU. 

 

The OP is choosing a non K because he doesn't want to overclock, yet you're suggesting a 2600 and then overclocking it?! Which would then increase power / heat which is what he wants to avoid in the first place.

[Swes]

Depends what you want to play and what kind of monitor you have , if you aren’t trying to get 144Hz wouldn’t even bother with anything better than a 2600 even if it’s in stock trim it’s a good choice .

 

Its very usage dependent decision. If you like eye candy games i would stick to the 2600 if you’re going for High FPS CSGO Id consider a 7600k or 8600k or the non K versions

[Swes]

I will note though if you think you might want to stream at all the 2600X can atleast somewhat do this whereas the non i7 intel chips are unsuitable for this.

[bowrilla]

1 hour ago, epsilon84 said:

Thermals are hardly an issue for either platform. The i5 8600 is a 65W CPU. 

 

The OP is choosing a non K because he doesn't want to overclock, yet you're suggesting a 2600 and then overclocking it?! Which would then increase power / heat which is what he wants to avoid in the first place.

What I've said is: there's hardly any difference at stock since the i5 8600 doesn't clock as high as i.e. the 8700k. The difference are at stock 400MHz and you can easily close the gap to 200-300MHz without causing heat issues. The included cooler you'll get with Ryzen is good enough for mild overclocking whereas the Intel stock cooler is pretty crappy. The OP didn't say he didn't want to overclock at all, he just wants to avoid overheating. Ryzen has less thermal issues even with the stock cooler. On Intel you need a top end Z chipset, for Ryzen all boards work and all CPUs are unlocked. Pushing the 2600 to 4.0 or 4.1 will be easy, you still save 100 bucks that you can invest into a) a better gpu or b) into an even better (and quieter) cooler. Or save only 50 bucks, get a 2600X that clocks at 4.2GHz at stock and still gives you twice the thread count. How big do you think is the difference in gaming performance between the 8600 and the 2600? The price difference is bigger than the performance difference. Only found an in depth comparison between 8600k and 2600X (see here: https://us.hardware.info/reviews/8425/amd-ryzen-5-2600x-vs-intel-core-i5-8600k-the-best-gaming-cpu-in-the-year-2018 ). Mind you the 8600k clocks higher and is overclockable. With that additional performance the k-version might be interesting if you're willing to push it to the 5GHz mark and keep it cool. 

 

Right now, for the money the 8600 non-k doesn't make sense. The 8600 and 8600k might not be as affected by the production shortage like the 8700k or the 9th gen but it still has an influence. If Intel gets their production issues sorted out, prices will drop again and it will be back in the game, but right now it doesn't make sense. 

[MilkShaker]

I am going to be using a g-sync 144hz 1440p, not going to stream or anything like that only play games, and thermals are a big thing because the case i want is very small, but bowrilla has a good point, i dont want to overclock, the 2600 is pretty close to the 8600 but 100$ cheaper. If i do go for the 2600 any motherboard recommendations? also do you think i should keep the stock cooler or use the one in the parts list.

[MilkShaker]

And im guessing the 2700 isnt worth the extra 100$?

[MilkShaker]

what do you guys think about this build now?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$164.99 @ Amazon
Thermal Compound	ARCTIC - MX4 4 g Thermal Paste	$7.98 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock - B450 GAMING-ITX/AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard	$124.86 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory	$119.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$129.97 @ Amazon
Video Card	Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Blower Video Card	$699.99 @ Newegg
Case	DAN Cases - A4-SFX V3-B Mini ITX Desktop Case	$260.00
Power Supply	Corsair - SF 600 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply	$115.61 @ Amazon
Keyboard	Logitech - G Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard	$108.99 @ Newegg
Other	Omen 27	$430.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2162.38
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-23 19:34 EST-0500

cost 60$ more and i swapped to 2600, removed cpu cooler, saved 50 on motherboard, and changed to an rtx 2080

[bowrilla]

I'd go with either the Asus ROG Strix B450-I (it's basically identital to the X470-I board, same VRM with 6 phases, 2 M.2 slots) or the MSI B450I (6 phases VRM as well, 1 M.2, no gen2 USB 3.1). The Asrock's VRM cooler looks a bit small and ineffective. The DAN Cases A4 is so small, so you shouldn't run into cooling issues as long as the cooler fits. There're hardly any airflow restrictions. The Ryzen stock cooler is pretty ok, especially for a "free" cooler. I'd go with 3000 or even better 3200 memory.

[MilkShaker]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$164.99 @ Amazon
Thermal Compound	ARCTIC - MX4 4 g Thermal Paste	$7.98 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Asus - ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard	$149.58 @ Amazon
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$129.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$129.97 @ Amazon
Video Card	Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Blower Video Card	$699.99 @ Newegg
Case	DAN Cases - A4-SFX V3-B Mini ITX Desktop Case	$260.00
Power Supply	Corsair - SF 600 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply	$115.61 @ Amazon
Keyboard	Logitech - G Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard	$108.99 @ Newegg
Other	Omen 27	$430.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2197.10
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-24 03:41 EST-0500

 

Also thanks guys to everyone who replied, for my first forum post here there are a lot of people who want to help