Gaming Laptop Can't Run Games Well

[KliptoMike2]

Hey guys! I recently bought an MSI gaming laptop, the leopard pro GP72MVR 7RFX. I have a GTX 1060 with an intel core i7 7700HQ, 16gb ram, 128gb ssd with 1tb hdd. This thing has monster specs. One of the main games i play is League of Legends. Before buying my laptop i was playing league of legends on my desktop computer (which i sold). That tower had a 6th generation intel core i3 and a gtx 960 with 8 gb ram, 256gb ssd and 1tb hdd. I was easily running league of legends between 150-220 fps at max settings consistently and i never had a problem because it is one of the least demanding games. My laptop for some reason doesn't even come close to running League of Legends that well. On max settings the game floats around 70 fps and if i get into teamfights i could get a massive drop. Basically i am really disappointed because i spent a lot of money on this thing and it can't properly run my favorite game. Even when i reduce the graphic setting to the lowest, the fps doesn't change so that tells me something isn't right. I tried every possible fix on the internet. I did windows updates, re-installed league countless times, uninstalled and reinstalled my graphics card and re-installed all my drivers. I went in my nvidia control panel and made sure my gtx 1060 was being used globally for everything at max performance rather than the integrated graphics. I even made a new user and tried league of legends and no change in the fps. I repaired league of legends for corrupt files as well as my pc. Everything seems to be fine yet the laptop isn't performing at all. Anti-aliasing is off as well as v-sync and i've played around with all the in game settings and nothing helps. This is extremely frustrating because people with worst laptops than me run the game at max settings without a problem. I feel like my gpu is not being used. I've scoured the internet for answers and now I'm at a loss. There is no overheating or throttling occurring on my system btw**. Hopefully someone has a fix for this!. A gtx 1060 with the specs my laptop has should easily run league like my desktop used too or even better. Any help is appreciated! Thank you!

[Theguywhobea]

Something that I found with League (especially in the last year or so) is that it runs like absolute garbage on 6-7th gen Intel CPU's. With my Razer Blade I probably only get ~120fps at game start but it slows down to around 70-60 as the game progresses. It only uses around 30-40% of the GPU, and will max out a single CPU core. What I have noticed is that higher frequency CPU's do much better with this game regardless which GPU is in them (to an extent of course) but even the 4930MX in my Alienware 18 kicks the 6700HQ's butt in League, largely due to the higher single core performance.

 

I would suggest you look up ThrottleStop or XTU guides for the 7700HQ so you can be sure that you're always running at the higher turbo that it can sustain when using fewer cores, recent Intel CPU's seem to like throttling straight from the factory due to power limits.

 

Other than that there isn't much anyone can do other than hope Riot finally catches on that their core audience isn't people with potato machines that they need to optimize for and they start letting GPU's stretch their legs again.

[KliptoMike2]

28 minutes ago, Theguywhobea said:

Something that I found with League (especially in the last year or so) is that it runs like absolute garbage on 6-7th gen Intel CPU's. With my Razer Blade I probably only get ~120fps at game start but it slows down to around 70-60 as the game progresses. It only uses around 30-40% of the GPU, and will max out a single CPU core. What I have noticed is that higher frequency CPU's do much better with this game regardless which GPU is in them (to an extent of course) but even the 4930MX in my Alienware 18 kicks the 6700HQ's butt in League, largely due to the higher single core performance.

 

I would suggest you look up ThrottleStop or XTU guides for the 7700HQ so you can be sure that you're always running at the higher turbo that it can sustain when using fewer cores, recent Intel CPU's seem to like throttling straight from the factory due to power limits.

 

Other than that there isn't much anyone can do other than hope Riot finally catches on that their core audience isn't people with potato machines that they need to optimize for and they start letting GPU's stretch their legs again.

Yea i just read up on my laptop and i saw that there is some troubles with the cpu and the amount of cores it has compared to the amount league needs to run. Im not too familiar in that department and i was just wondering, is there a fix for this "CORE" issue? a program to download? or do i need to sell this laptop?

[Theguywhobea]

37 minutes ago, KliptoMike2 said:

Yea i just read up on my laptop and i saw that there is some troubles with the cpu and the amount of cores it has compared to the amount league needs to run. Im not too familiar in that department and i was just wondering, is there a fix for this "CORE" issue? a program to download? or do i need to sell this laptop?

Like I said in my original post you should probably just look up guides for using ThrottleStop or XTU with the 7700HQ. You could also see if anyone has anything specifically for the 7700HQ and League.

 

You should also go into the NVIDIA control panel and make sure that League is set to always use GPU. It typically is already set for that, but double checking is probably worth it.

[KliptoMike2]

5 minutes ago, Theguywhobea said:

Like I said in my original post you should probably just look up guides for using ThrottleStop or XTU with the 7700HQ. You could also see if anyone has anything specifically for the 7700HQ and League.

 

You should also go into the NVIDIA control panel and make sure that League is set to always use GPU. It typically is already set for that, but double checking is probably worth it.

Yes i made sure league is always running on my gtx 1060. So with throttlestop i will be able to control my cpu?

[Theguywhobea]

Just now, KliptoMike2 said:

Yes i made sure league is always running on my gtx 1060. So with throttlestop i will be able to control my cpu?

You should be able to stop your CPU from power limit throttling (if it is) and undervolt it. I haven't used ThrottleStop with a 7700HQ so I wouldn't be a good resource but there are lots of guides on YouTube, I suggest you check some out.

[KliptoMike2]

4 minutes ago, Theguywhobea said:

You should be able to stop your CPU from power limit throttling (if it is) and undervolt it. I haven't used ThrottleStop with a 7700HQ so I wouldn't be a good resource but there are lots of guides on YouTube, I suggest you check some out.

Alright thanks a lot! So i guess this is why my i3 6th gen worked so well with my desktop, it was just a dual-core processor. Does that make sense?

[Theguywhobea]

3 minutes ago, KliptoMike2 said:

Alright thanks a lot! So i guess this is why my i3 6th gen worked so well with my desktop, it was just a dual-core processor. Does that make sense?

League in general seems to work better with slightly older hardware. And yes, your i3's frequency was always at 3.7Ghz, and the 7700HQ can at most turbo to 3.8 when only one core is being used, that's almost never the case though. And you can't directly compare the cores from a desktop i3 to a mobile i7, but it's likely that a single desktop i3 core is faster (at least when it comes to LoL) than a single 7700HQ core.

[chromic]

1 hour ago, Theguywhobea said:

League in general seems to work better with slightly older hardware. And yes, your i3's frequency was always at 3.7Ghz, and the 7700HQ can at most turbo to 3.8 when only one core is being used, that's almost never the case though. And you can't directly compare the cores from a desktop i3 to a mobile i7, but it's likely that a single desktop i3 core is faster (at least when it comes to LoL) than a single 7700HQ core.

I remember back in the day, you could literally run League with any potato computer (had something like hd5850 and athlon 3x cpu with good fps)

Currently I have 4770k OC'd to 4.3ghz + gtx 1070 and sometimes in those clusterf... teamfights my fps drops to below 40

[Theguywhobea]

22 hours ago, chromic said:

I remember back in the day, you could literally run League with any potato computer (had something like hd5850 and athlon 3x cpu with good fps)

Currently I have 4770k OC'd to 4.3ghz + gtx 1070 and sometimes in those clusterf... teamfights my fps drops to below 40

Well you see, the thing is that you can still run league really well on old ass potato hardware, because Riot has put a lot of development into optimizing the game so that ANYONE can run it with whatever machine they got (but still no god damn Linux client). The issue we have now is that it's so well optimized for low end hardware, it can't take advantage of high end hardware, and since it's a relatively small part of the player base with insane computers that care about +60fps, it doesn't get looked at.