Need help building a rig

[fussy-p]

Hi all,

 

Need help building a rig predominately for gaming. 

 

I used to build my own computers around 10 years ago but feel out of the loop now. 

 

AMD or Intel?

 

Is G-Sync absolutely worth it? Or is Freesync good enough?

 

 

Key points:

 

1. I don’t have a screen yet but assume that I’ll need power to push pixels to 1440p @ 144Hz

 

2. I don’t want too large of a case. I’m into discrete looking systems. E.g. I used to like the Fractal series of cases.

 

3. I don’t need a keyboard or mouse.

 

4. I live in Vancouver, BC so suggestions on good places to buy system parts from / best places to have put them together for you (I may consider building it myself) would be greatly appreciated. 

 

5. Budget - let’s say around $1500 without screen. 

 

Let me know if I’ve missed something.

 

Thanks!

[JammyCreedog]

ere ya go

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($369.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($106.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($139.85 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($72.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8 GB Video Card  ($454.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1434.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-05 22:51 EST-0500

 

Edit: Oops sry didn't see you're from the great north.

This should be a starting point to get you in the ballpark tho.

[lukart]

A tweaked better rig with better components, like watercooler, mobo and PSU.

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3HsvcY
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3HsvcY/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($369.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i PRO 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z390 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($128.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($72.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.85 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8 GB Video Card  ($434.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1421.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-05 23:08 EST-0500

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($225.76 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty B450 GAMING K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($104.82 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($148.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($95.75 @ shopRBC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($67.99 @ Powertop) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($659.00 @ Canada Computers) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 275R (Black w/Tempered Glass) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($84.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Memory Express) 
Total: $1467.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-06 00:32 EST-0500

[brob]

@JammyCreedog, @lukart, @Herman Mcpootis, Vancouver BC is located in Canada.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($329.00 @ Amazon Canada) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i PRO 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($119.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z390 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($180.14 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($164.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($172.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($369.60 @ Vuugo) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 275R (Black w/Tempered Glass) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($84.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Total: $1491.69
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-06 01:32 EST-0500

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, brob said:

@JammyCreedog, @lukart, @Herman Mcpootis, Vancouver BC is located in Canada.

 

 

Which is why my list is from canadian PCPP.

[brob]

5 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

Which is why my list is from canadian PCPP.

I thought I checked, sorry.

[fussy-p]

Thanks for the responses. 

 

Most peeps seem to have opted for the Intel 8 series. I believe the 9 series is out though. How much better is the 9 series over the 8?

 

Also need some help re the G-sync vs Freesync thing. Is it worth getting g-sync? From what I’ve read it seems slightly better albeit at a higher price? No one seems to have recommended an AMD GPU so does that mean I should stick with the Nvidia + G-sync combo? The only annoying thing is that there are so many more better looking Freesync monitors compared to G-sync. 

 

Also I’m upping the budget to $2000. I’d like to see what direction y’all take with the extra $500. 

 

Thanks,

[Herman Mcpootis]

21 minutes ago, fussy-p said:

Thanks for the responses. 

 

Most peeps seem to have opted for the Intel 8 series. I believe the 9 series is out though. How much better is the 9 series over the 8?

 

the 9700k doesn't really perform much better over the 8700k in gaming.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($490.00 @ Amazon Canada) 
CPU Cooler: RAIJINTEK - TISIS 70.2 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($59.49 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($249.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($148.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($95.75 @ shopRBC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($67.99 @ Powertop) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($659.00 @ Canada Computers) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 275R (Black w/Tempered Glass) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($84.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $1966.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-06 02:25 EST-0500

[JammyCreedog]

12 hours ago, fussy-p said:

Thanks for the responses. 

 

Most peeps seem to have opted for the Intel 8 series. I believe the 9 series is out though. How much better is the 9 series over the 8?

 

Also need some help re the G-sync vs Freesync thing. Is it worth getting g-sync? From what I’ve read it seems slightly better albeit at a higher price? No one seems to have recommended an AMD GPU so does that mean I should stick with the Nvidia + G-sync combo? The only annoying thing is that there are so many more better looking Freesync monitors compared to G-sync. 

 

Also I’m upping the budget to $2000. I’d like to see what direction y’all take with the extra $500. 

 

Thanks,

I really don't know how the 9th gen 8c/8t i7 compares to the 8th gen 6c/12t in gaming.  So far as I do know, ipc is almost identical so it all depends on the frequency you can run either one at and which one has a sale/bundle going for it.  I think that with a $2000 budget you should really include an nvme ssd of at least 500gb.  On top of that add a 2tb baracuda for mass storage. 1060 6gb is too low tier of a card to pair with a new i7 build in my opinion.  The reason that people are recommending nvidia over amd gpu's is because team red tops out performance wise with thew vega 56 graphics cards and they're all blower style and only compete with gtx 1070 in some games.  I'd got 1070ti minimum, preferably a gtx 1080 or rtx 2070 if you can find one.

Freesync or gsync will not add or reduce fps, just reduce screen tear and artifacting that pulls you out of immersive games.  

Linus did a video recently and said the sweet spot currently is 1440p at 140hz+ and adaptive refresh if you can find it for a good price.  Hope all this helps you.

[fussy-p]

1 hour ago, JammyCreedog said:

I really don't know how the 9th gen 8c/8t i7 compares to the 8th gen 6c/12t in gaming.  So far as I do know, ipc is almost identical so it all depends on the frequency you can run either one at and which one has a sale/bundle going for it.  I think that with a $2000 budget you should really include an nvme ssd of at least 500gb.  On top of that add a 2tb baracuda for mass storage. 1060 6gb is too low tier of a card to pair with a new i7 build in my opinion.  The reason that people are recommending nvidia over amd gpu's is because team red tops out performance wise with thew vega 56 graphics cards and they're all blower style and only compete with gtx 1070 in some games.  I'd got 1070ti minimum, preferably a gtx 1080 or rtx 2070 if you can find one.

Freesync or gsync will not add or reduce fps, just reduce screen tear and artifacting that pulls you out of immersive games.  

Linus did a video recently and said the sweet spot currently is 1440p at 140hz+ and adaptive refresh if you can find it for a good price.  Hope all this helps you.

It does help thank you. 

 

I think I will get a NVMe drive... I was thinking about it last night. 

 

Also ill defintely be getting a RTX 2070 minimum. 

 

Budget is now at $2500

 

Re the G-sync thing ... I really want a Nvidia GPU but how does that work with a Freesync monitor? Do you get any benefit at all? I understand that Gysnc + Nvidia GPU is the best combo but I don’t like any of the Gsync monitors available atm. The Freesync ones are way nicer. But if it came down to monitors that look nicer vs the actual benefit of gsync is go the gsync route for sure. 

[Herman Mcpootis]

7 hours ago, JammyCreedog said:

I think that with a $2000 budget you should really include an nvme ssd of at least 500gb.  On top of that add a 2tb baracuda for mass storage. 1060 6gb is too low tier of a card to pair with a new i7 build in my opinion.  The reason that people are recommending nvidia over amd gpu's is because team red tops out performance wise with thew vega 56 graphics cards and they're all blower style and only compete with gtx 1070 in some games.  I'd got 1070ti minimum, preferably a gtx 1080 or rtx 2070 if you can find one.

There's no need for an nvme ssd for a gaming only rig, a good sata ssd is enough. AMD's best gpu is the vega 64 LC, not the vega 56. And they all have open air coolers now.

[Herman Mcpootis]

5 hours ago, fussy-p said:

Re the G-sync thing ... I really want a Nvidia GPU but how does that work with a Freesync monitor? Do you get any benefit at all? I understand that Gysnc + Nvidia GPU is the best combo but I don’t like any of the Gsync monitors available atm. The Freesync ones are way nicer. But if it came down to monitors that look nicer vs the actual benefit of gsync is go the gsync route for sure. 

Freesync only works with compatible AMD gpus and gsync only works with compatible nvidia gpus.