CPU Technology advancements

[heineygoat]

Most of you on this forum probably already that Intel is putting there focus to less power usage and heat generating CPU's to allow them to enter into the mobile industry.The Intel 4000 series wont be much more powerful than the current series, though it will use significantly less power and generate less heat. But what about us? Is this going to happen every generation?

It seems that the current technologies are just good enough. Give a normal user a decent CPU that has been available for a few years now, with some other decent hardware and you probably wont hear them complain about the speed of their computer. So whats pushing them to make quicker CPU's for desktop computers? Honestly just a small niche market like us probably isn't enough to encourage huge innovations in performance.

I can see that storage technology will go up with the new 4k TV's and those huge video files but apart from that, none of the other hardware is "not good enough" to do what people need to do, like browse the web.

It seems that as technology advanced, we will see our gaming rigs get smaller and use less power, but there's really no significant push to encourage performance innovations.

Sure there's gamers and bench markerks, but is that really a big enough market compared to mobile users? This idea becomes even more concerning when you consider the potential for cloud gaming.

[FireFox]

I would have thought they'd be normal desktop variants along side the low power consumption CPU's, well I hope so at least but from what I've seen the gaming/enthusiast market is still big enough for Intel to pay attention unless I've misread it.

[AMD_Nemesis]

Eh cloud gaming is going to take a REALLY long time also lots of pc industry problems msi gigabyte sapphire asus and much more will lose almost all business so big problems with that i doubt it will happen in our generation of users.

[Guest]

Cloud gaming to be a serious option will take 3-4 decades at current rates. It is heavily reliant on infrastructure for gigabit or faster speeds, which is only really just being pushed out now and even as it is being pushed out, they're taking their sweet time in doing so.

As you've sort of said, the market for high end desktop PC's is disappearing It may seem like you're surrounded by it with YouTube channels like Linus' and forums like these but we're really just a minority. The biggest advancements, especially with Intel product development is through very very low power draw products for tablets and ultrabooks and then with enterprise grade technology. It wouldn't surprise me that when Skylake or perhaps even as early as Broadwell - though doubtful - are rolled out, there is a bigger absence of middle of the road cpu's like the 3570K and 3820.

There's also a lack of push from game developers at the moment to push for innovation and performance from Intel and AMD because the games are all being designed for 7-10 year old hardware and then being ported to the PC. Even games that are soley for use on the PC can get away with this because they don't have any incentive to really push things. Hopefully this will change with the redesign of consoles but I'm not optimistic - they're still a budget piece of hardware that's built for the masses, not something designed for all out raw power.

What we really need is a revolutionary of hardware and software design - someone to just come in and completely revolutionize the way things are done. Corsair did it with the 800D, Google Fibre is doing it with internet service, now developers need to be taught what people want.

[heineygoat]

Cloud gaming to be a serious option will take 3-4 decades at current rates. It is heavily reliant on infrastructure for gigabit or faster speeds, which is only really just being pushed out now and even as it is being pushed out, they're taking their sweet time in doing so.

As you've sort of said, the market for high end desktop PC's is disappearing It may seem like you're surrounded by it with YouTube channels like Linus' and forums like these but we're really just a minority. The biggest advancements, especially with Intel product development is through very very low power draw products for tablets and ultrabooks and then with enterprise grade technology. It wouldn't surprise me that when Skylake or perhaps even as early as Broadwell - though doubtful - are rolled out, there is a bigger absence of middle of the road cpu's like the 3570K and 3820.

There's also a lack of push from game developers at the moment to push for innovation and performance from Intel and AMD because the games are all being designed for 7-10 year old hardware and then being ported to the PC. Even games that are soley for use on the PC can get away with this because they don't have any incentive to really push things. Hopefully this will change with the redesign of consoles but I'm not optimistic - they're still a budget piece of hardware that's built for the masses, not something designed for all out raw power.

What we really need is a revolutionary of hardware and software design - someone to just come in and completely revolutionize the way things are done. Corsair did it with the 800D, Google Fibre is doing it with internet service, now developers need to be taught what people want.

Yes cloud gaming wont be a thing anytime soon, but it certainly wont develop at the current rate for decades, it will develop exponentially like every other technology.

And yea all of your points are supporting to my concern. Performance users and enthusiasts like us really are a small market for the big CPU giants. I actually don't know anyone outside the internet that has the same interest for computers as I do.

Why is it just Intel and AMD anyway? What about a G.skill, Asus or MSI CPU. They know what we want and we make up most of their market (accept maybe Asus). They make memory, motherboards and graphics card PCB's, so why can't they make GPU's and CPU's? Is it their technology, do they not know HOW to make CPU's and GPU's? Why can't they hire someone who does? seems like a small investment to me.

I would buy the shit out of an ASUS ROG CPU, or a Corsair Platinum CPU.

[Guest]

Cloud gaming to be a serious option will take 3-4 decades at current rates. It is heavily reliant on infrastructure for gigabit or faster speeds, which is only really just being pushed out now and even as it is being pushed out, they're taking their sweet time in doing so.

As you've sort of said, the market for high end desktop PC's is disappearing It may seem like you're surrounded by it with YouTube channels like Linus' and forums like these but we're really just a minority. The biggest advancements, especially with Intel product development is through very very low power draw products for tablets and ultrabooks and then with enterprise grade technology. It wouldn't surprise me that when Skylake or perhaps even as early as Broadwell - though doubtful - are rolled out, there is a bigger absence of middle of the road cpu's like the 3570K and 3820.

There's also a lack of push from game developers at the moment to push for innovation and performance from Intel and AMD because the games are all being designed for 7-10 year old hardware and then being ported to the PC. Even games that are soley for use on the PC can get away with this because they don't have any incentive to really push things. Hopefully this will change with the redesign of consoles but I'm not optimistic - they're still a budget piece of hardware that's built for the masses, not something designed for all out raw power.

What we really need is a revolutionary of hardware and software design - someone to just come in and completely revolutionize the way things are done. Corsair did it with the 800D, Google Fibre is doing it with internet service, now developers need to be taught what people want.

Probably resources/facilities for manufacturing as well as the expertise and market share. They'd have to compete with Intel and AMD. Though I don't see a reason why Foxcon or TI couldn't make the jump though I don't know if they'd have the financial backing.

Waaaait - Apple's looking at making their own CPU's for their laptop and desktop products - FoxCon will probably be the manufacturer but then again, they'll be focused at a similar audience; ultrabooks/tablets/low power draw.