New Build Advice

Maxpphire · November 30, 2018

So I'm building a new gaming machine that can also stream me doing game things, and even maybe let me do artsy stuff on it and using my old one that I built in 2012 as more of an Arcade Box for the specialty games I play.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Maxpphire/saved/YYNjyc

**Sidenote with the list, I am getting 2 SSDs and the Graphics card from a friend as a discounted rate. I am unsure of the brand or size of the SSDs but was told they are valued at roughly $200 each. Simple Logic Leap to assume they can hold windows and one of them will hold windows for my new build. The SSDs are not included in the list for that reason. The Graphic card is included in the list because I know exactly what card I'm getting from said friend. Friend is trustworthy and gotten parts from him before, that exist in said old machine that I'm basically replacing. (He also helped me build that old machine because it was my first built PC.)

Now I'm happy with the list of parts I have here, I might update the case to an Inwin Infinity at some point but I like the case I have picked out for now. (The Case Fans exist to spruce it up a bit, but I really love the color Blue so this case works for now. Any other RGB case I've seen looks ugly as sin.)

Things I could use advice on:

Windows 10 vs Windows 7- I really enjoy Windows 7, so much so that I honestly do not want to update to Windows 10, but since I'm going to use my old PC for the games that sometimes are really touchy on Windows 10 machines, so I'm not sure I really have an excuse for sticking to Windows 7 except "I'm familiar with it". Why should I go Windows 10 or Stick with 7. I have access to both versions of Windows so really this choice doesn't change anything.

Keyboard and Mouse - I never used anything super fancy in the past but I would like to. Controllable RGB for both preferable. I've never had a Mechanical Keyboard before, looking around and being an Arcade button Snob, I was sad to see that literally all the switches are done by Cherry with the exception of one brand of keyboards that uses Omron (Romer-G). Since I've never used a Mechanical Keyboard before in heavy use (I've used a few friends keyboards here and there, but I want to say altogether my use of mechanical keyboards clocks in at under 30 minutes.) I actually don't know if Cherry is better in keyboard than they are with Arcade Switches or if Omron will continue to be the way to go. I would like a Mouse with some programmable buttons. I also really enjoy loud clicky tactile feelings from arcade buttons and would like something similar for the keyboard and mouse if possible but have no idea where to begin with that.

Monitors - I eventually want to work my way up to using 3 monitors. I want them all to be the same monitor, and really I do not need 4k. 1080p is literally good enough for my uses. Would like something affordable and yet decent. Was looking at this Monitor in particular but open to suggestions: https://www.amazon.com/Acer-G276HL-Kbix-Frame-Monitor-x/dp/B0742D9CDX/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1543536808&sr=1-5&keywords=computer%2Bmonitor&refinements=p_n_size_browse-bin%3A3547807011&th=1

External Speakers - I have a really nice and pricey Sennheiser Headset, but sometimes would enjoy not wearing my headset 24/7 (Would prefer to just wear it for chatting with my friends or music/video projects I have.) what are some good sound quality but decent price computer speakers that you all would suggest?

r2724r16 · November 30, 2018

2 minutes ago, Maxpphire said:

pcpartpicker.com/user/Maxpphire/saved/YYNjyc

I suggest changing the PSU to something like a RM650x

4 minutes ago, Maxpphire said:

I would like a Mouse with some programmable buttons.

The Logitech G502 is a good option

4 minutes ago, Maxpphire said:

Why should I go Windows 10 or Stick with 7

The interface of W10 is much more modern looking than W7 and you'll get used to it pretty soon.

Maxpphire · November 30, 2018

12 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

I suggest changing the PSU to something like a RM650x

I'm going to ask why, and what the Benefit is to the Corsair RM650x over the EVGA Supernova G3 750W? I'm ok with going down in wattage, but like did you have a bad experience with the EVGA Supernova series or just find Corsair to be really reliable?

12 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

The Logitech G502 is a good option

I'll take a look at this for sure

12 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

The interface of W10 is much more modern looking than W7 and you'll get used to it pretty soon.

I mean, that doesn't really answer my question? I get Windows 10 is much more modern and newer, that much is obvious. I guess what I'm looking for most is "What would the point of upgrading right now be?" like for example Windows ME, Vista, and 8 were all poorly executed or downright terrible. It doesn't always make sense to upgrade something because it is newer. Windows 10 seems to have some staying power, however I heard of stories where there isn't a Calculator or some really basic use program isn't already pre-installed like they have been with every other previous incarnation of windows and if they want it then they have to buy it from the store, which seems a little ridiculous as well? I have no issue getting used to a new more modern looking set up, I guess I wanna know what other people found to be the pros and cons of both OS and what they ultimately prefer.

r2724r16 · November 30, 2018

10 minutes ago, Maxpphire said:

I'm going to ask why, and what the Benefit is to the Corsair RM650x over the EVGA Supernova G3 750W? I'm ok with going down in wattage, but like did you have a bad experience with the EVGA Supernova series or just find Corsair to be really reliable?

Having used the RMx series PSUs in the past, I know that they're very quiet, even under load and the RM650x is a better quality PSU than the G3 750W.

12 minutes ago, Maxpphire said:

what I'm looking for most is "What would the point of upgrading right now be?"

Literally, the only point of upgrading from W7 to W10 is to get a more modern looking interface. But if you're okay with using W7 and you're comfortable with it, then I wouldn't upgrade. The latest update of W10 has some really bad features and I'm not going to even mention any of them, and I'm personally thinking of going back to good old W7. There's also a lot of crapware on W10 that can't be deleted (like Xbox related apps).

seon123 · November 30, 2018

11 minutes ago, Maxpphire said:

I'm going to ask why, and what the Benefit is to the Corsair RM650x over the EVGA Supernova G3 750W? I'm ok with going down in wattage, but like did you have a bad experience with the EVGA Supernova series or just find Corsair to be really reliable?

Not being the loudest PSU on the market, and not having issues with its protections are the main things. You can find reviews of both on Tomshardware/Techpowerup.

The RMx is also among the quietest PSUs you can get.

And it's easier to find custom cables for the PSUs using the Corsair Type 4 pinouts.

Another alternative is the 550W version of the Whisper M. It uses the same platform as the RMx 2018, but it has a nicer fan, multi rail and individual PCIe cables per connector. The pinout is the same as on the RMx, so you can use any cable kits made for the RMx.

There are however good sales going on for the RMx atm, so that's a very good option for the price.

Ryzen isn't properly supported on Windows 7, so W10 is my recommendation.

Cherry switches are considered by many to be "the best", but most of their switches are considered mediocre/bad by the enthusiast mechanical keyboard community.

You can build a custom keyboard quite easily, actually, though the price can quickly get quite high. That way you get many more options for switch types. The Kailh Thick clicks (Box/Speed Jade and Box/Speed Navy) are very tactile and produce a quite nice sound, when compared to Cherry clicky switches.

That's personal preference, so I recommend getting a switch tester and checking out what you like for yourself.

The InWin 805 has quite terrible airflow. Are you sure you want that? I recommend looking for another option.

Maxpphire · November 30, 2018

7 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Not being the loudest PSU on the market, and not having issues with its protections are the main things. You can find reviews of both on Tomshardware/Techpowerup.

The RMx is also among the quietest PSUs you can get.

And it's easier to find custom cables for the PSUs using the Corsair Type 4 pinouts.

Another alternative is the 550W version of the Whisper M. It uses the same platform as the RMx 2018, but it has a nicer fan, multi rail and individual PCIe cables per connector. The pinout is the same as on the RMx, so you can use any cable kits made for the RMx.

There are however good sales going on for the RMx atm, so that's a very good option for the price.

19 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

Having used the RMx series PSUs in the past, I know that they're very quiet, even under load and the RM650x is a better quality PSU than the G3 750W.

Ok cool cool, I shall look into those instead, thank you.

9 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Ryzen isn't properly supported on Windows 7, so W10 is my recommendation.

Ok cool, that would make sense then.

9 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Cherry switches are considered by many to be "the best", but most of their switches are considered mediocre/bad by the enthusiast mechanical keyboard community.

You can build a custom keyboard quite easily, actually, though the price can quickly get quite high. That way you get many more options for switch types. The Kailh Thick clicks (Box/Speed Jade and Box/Speed Navy) are very tactile and produce a quite nice sound, when compared to Cherry clicky switches.

That's personal preference, so I recommend getting a switch tester and checking out what you like for yourself.

Yeah I'll look into getting a switch tester and giving it a try. Glad to know I'm not the only one who feels that way about Cherry.

11 minutes ago, seon123 said:

The InWin 805 has quite terrible airflow. Are you sure you want that? I recommend looking for another option.

Yeah, thats kind of why it's a "I might" do this. I really would love a very nice looking RGB case, I would love to be able to customize my computer's color at the drop of a hat, but I want it to look nice, and also not sacrifice airflow. A lot of the other RGB cases I've seen just kind of have 3 fans in the front and thats it? Seems a bit boring tbh, which is part of why I went for the one I did, because it looked nice and seemed to have decent airflow, and at least I can upgrade the fans to be RGB if anything.