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Posted (edited) · Original PosterOP

Hi guys, I just go this Samsung SSD 850 EVO thing. I've cloned all the HDD stuff onto it and I'm not sure what to do with my 10+ year old Seagate HDD. If I was to dispose of it, what is the best way to make sure that all of its contents are wiped clean. If kept, is it still good to use it as a back up? This is what HDTune Pro gave me when I tested it: https://imgur.com/1Jtapjm https://imgur.com/083yyES

 

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first try to run the crystal disk info on your old drive... if it is still fully operable, keep it as "backup emergency" disk... 

 

If you need the space and want to get rid of it... you can use DBAN : https://dban.org/


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if you have sensitive data on that drive people can recover it no matter what you do I suggest throwing it in the ocean so the salt can decompose the internals 


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2 minutes ago, komputeridiat said:

What is that? Is it another HDD utility? I already ran it with HD Tune Pro with results in imgur.

Yes Crystal Disk info is a disk information tool... 

 

I just looked at the first screenshot... pending sectors... ouch... then keeping it as a spare drive isn't really an option... run the DBAN over it for a while and dump it.


2 Main Systems (mine and my late wifes): AsRock Fatal1ty Z77 Pro, Core I5 3570k @4300, 16 GB Ram DDR3 2133, some SSD, and a 2 TB HDD each, Gainward Phantom 760GTX. 

 

On the Road: Acer Aspire 5 Model A515-51G-54FD, Intel Core i5 7200U, 8 GB DDR4 Ram, 120 GB SSD, 1 TB HDD, Intel CPU GFX and Nvidia MX 150, Full HD IPS display

 

Media System: Asrock ASRock Z87 Extreme4/TB4, Intel Core i5 4460, 16 GB Ram DDR3 1600 ADATA XPG, 1 275 GB SSD, 2 Seagate 500 GB HDD, Gainward Phantom 560 GTX

 

(Abit Fatal1ty FP9 IN SLI, C2Duo E8400, 6 GB Ram DDR2 800, far too less diskspace, Gainward Phantom 560 GTX broken need fixing)

 

Nostalgia: Amiga 1200, Tower Build, CPU/FPU/MMU 68EC020, 68030, 68882 @50 Mhz, 10 MByte ram (2 MB Chip, 8 MB Fast), Fast SCSI II, 2 CDRoms, 2 1 GB SCSI II IBM Harddrives, 512 MB Quantum Lightning HDD, self soldered Sync changer to attach VGA displays, WLAN

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, VenomZ_ said:

if you have sensitive data on that drive people can recover it no matter what you do I suggest throwing it in the ocean so the salt can decompose the internals 

I'm sorry but that sounds ridiculous. 1. I don't have that sensitive data. 2. I'm not near oceans at all. 3. We have enough garbage in the ocean already, please do not give this similar advice to anyone else.

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2 minutes ago, VenomZ_ said:

if you have sensitive data on that drive people can recover it no matter what you do I suggest throwing it in the ocean so the salt can decompose the internals 

or shred it into particles... 

 

It all depends on how paranoid one is with that... 


2 Main Systems (mine and my late wifes): AsRock Fatal1ty Z77 Pro, Core I5 3570k @4300, 16 GB Ram DDR3 2133, some SSD, and a 2 TB HDD each, Gainward Phantom 760GTX. 

 

On the Road: Acer Aspire 5 Model A515-51G-54FD, Intel Core i5 7200U, 8 GB DDR4 Ram, 120 GB SSD, 1 TB HDD, Intel CPU GFX and Nvidia MX 150, Full HD IPS display

 

Media System: Asrock ASRock Z87 Extreme4/TB4, Intel Core i5 4460, 16 GB Ram DDR3 1600 ADATA XPG, 1 275 GB SSD, 2 Seagate 500 GB HDD, Gainward Phantom 560 GTX

 

(Abit Fatal1ty FP9 IN SLI, C2Duo E8400, 6 GB Ram DDR2 800, far too less diskspace, Gainward Phantom 560 GTX broken need fixing)

 

Nostalgia: Amiga 1200, Tower Build, CPU/FPU/MMU 68EC020, 68030, 68882 @50 Mhz, 10 MByte ram (2 MB Chip, 8 MB Fast), Fast SCSI II, 2 CDRoms, 2 1 GB SCSI II IBM Harddrives, 512 MB Quantum Lightning HDD, self soldered Sync changer to attach VGA displays, WLAN

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Just now, Anghammarad said:

Yes Crystal Disk info is a disk information tool... 

 

I just looked at the first screenshot... pending sectors... ouch... then keeping it as a spare drive isn't really an option... run the DBAN over it for a while and dump it.

Can you tell me what that means? Everything else is green, but only one thing wrong can mean bad for the entire drive?

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Just now, komputeridiat said:

Can you tell me what that means? Everything else is green, but only one thing wrong can mean bad for the entire drive?

Pending sector count is the number of broken sectors on the drive that still need to get recovered to good/spare sectors. 

 

If the count is high, usually the disk ran out of spare sectors. 

 

And a broken sector usually drags more sectors down, which makes the drive unreliable for further use.


2 Main Systems (mine and my late wifes): AsRock Fatal1ty Z77 Pro, Core I5 3570k @4300, 16 GB Ram DDR3 2133, some SSD, and a 2 TB HDD each, Gainward Phantom 760GTX. 

 

On the Road: Acer Aspire 5 Model A515-51G-54FD, Intel Core i5 7200U, 8 GB DDR4 Ram, 120 GB SSD, 1 TB HDD, Intel CPU GFX and Nvidia MX 150, Full HD IPS display

 

Media System: Asrock ASRock Z87 Extreme4/TB4, Intel Core i5 4460, 16 GB Ram DDR3 1600 ADATA XPG, 1 275 GB SSD, 2 Seagate 500 GB HDD, Gainward Phantom 560 GTX

 

(Abit Fatal1ty FP9 IN SLI, C2Duo E8400, 6 GB Ram DDR2 800, far too less diskspace, Gainward Phantom 560 GTX broken need fixing)

 

Nostalgia: Amiga 1200, Tower Build, CPU/FPU/MMU 68EC020, 68030, 68882 @50 Mhz, 10 MByte ram (2 MB Chip, 8 MB Fast), Fast SCSI II, 2 CDRoms, 2 1 GB SCSI II IBM Harddrives, 512 MB Quantum Lightning HDD, self soldered Sync changer to attach VGA displays, WLAN

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Posted · Original PosterOP
5 minutes ago, Anghammarad said:

Pending sector count is the number of broken sectors on the drive that still need to get recovered to good/spare sectors. 

 

If the count is high, usually the disk ran out of spare sectors. 

 

And a broken sector usually drags more sectors down, which makes the drive unreliable for further use.

It says 98 for current and worst and 57 Data. Does the 98 mean all sectors are gone? and what does the 57 data mean?

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From my understanding there are 57 sectors that are pending to get reallocated. But the reallocation count is zero... which then is bad as well, because if there are still spare sectors left, the count shouldn't be 0 but 57, and none pending.

 

I personally won't trust that drive anymore.


2 Main Systems (mine and my late wifes): AsRock Fatal1ty Z77 Pro, Core I5 3570k @4300, 16 GB Ram DDR3 2133, some SSD, and a 2 TB HDD each, Gainward Phantom 760GTX. 

 

On the Road: Acer Aspire 5 Model A515-51G-54FD, Intel Core i5 7200U, 8 GB DDR4 Ram, 120 GB SSD, 1 TB HDD, Intel CPU GFX and Nvidia MX 150, Full HD IPS display

 

Media System: Asrock ASRock Z87 Extreme4/TB4, Intel Core i5 4460, 16 GB Ram DDR3 1600 ADATA XPG, 1 275 GB SSD, 2 Seagate 500 GB HDD, Gainward Phantom 560 GTX

 

(Abit Fatal1ty FP9 IN SLI, C2Duo E8400, 6 GB Ram DDR2 800, far too less diskspace, Gainward Phantom 560 GTX broken need fixing)

 

Nostalgia: Amiga 1200, Tower Build, CPU/FPU/MMU 68EC020, 68030, 68882 @50 Mhz, 10 MByte ram (2 MB Chip, 8 MB Fast), Fast SCSI II, 2 CDRoms, 2 1 GB SCSI II IBM Harddrives, 512 MB Quantum Lightning HDD, self soldered Sync changer to attach VGA displays, WLAN

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If you'd like, you can download our free diagnostic software SeaTools to give the drive a pass/fail status. If the drive is over 10 years old, then you've more than doubled the average life expectancy of a hard drive which is about 5 years, give or take. If it makes you uneasy, you can ditch it, but as long as it's not the main/only place your data is stored, you could still use it if you want to, just make sure to have a strong backup strategy so that any single drive failing doesn't mean disaster for your data. If your backups are solid, then a drive going down is a simple matter of getting a new drive and restoring from backup.

As far as getting rid of traces of data on the drive, the most widely recommended seems to be DBAN.


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20 hours ago, komputeridiat said:

It says 98 for current and worst and 57 Data. Does the 98 mean all sectors are gone? and what does the 57 data mean?

What does the RAW Values column show?

 

If it has all zeroes, then there are no pending sectors that have to be replaced.

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