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G-Sync/FreeSync & Why I'm Not Buying Either

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I bet Nvidia loves blind loyalists like yourself...

Ladies and gentlemen, this is the exact attitude that allows companies to get away with this bullshit.

How am I blind? I've owned enough AMD cards to never wanna go back. If there's some insane AMD card I can easily sell the G-Sync monitor and go with Freesync.
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How many times do people need to answer ALL your questions and debunk your points before you get it?

 

It almost seems like you dont care about learning anything or any results... seems almost like you just want to argue endlessly for the sake of arguing.

 

Adaptive sync does the same as gsync and costs less, AND is licence and royalty free, so anyone can support it. I see precisely ZERO reason why supporting this would be anything short of Utopian standards.

The standards that you seem to want, but thats not good enough for you too... almost like you need the attention.

 

Oh and you refuse TO GET IT THROUGH YOUR SKULL that some of us are 100% done with ever enjoying games with tearing and stutter again. So, if there is a monitor with gsync that isnt there with freesync, or someone doesnt want to abandon his/her SLI setup... we WILL BUY gsync too.

Ad hominem attacks get you nowhere in a debate. Come back when you have dug that stick out of your ass.

 

How am I blind? I've owned enough AMD cards to never wanna go back. If there's some insane AMD card I can easily sell the G-Sync monitor and go with Freesync.

You will gladly support a product that fucks you over in the long run. That is why you are blind.

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Ad hominem attacks get you nowhere in a debate. Come back when you have dug that stick out of your ass.

 

That deflection tho...

 

Irony is not a forgiving entity.

 

But nevermind. You have proven to not care about the subject many times already. Most of what you said beyond the first page is pretty much white noise.

 

They really need an age limit for forums i think.

 

@ everyone else: dont you think its time to stop the feeding?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

 

 

 

Irony is not a forgiving entity.

 

But nevermind. You have proven to not care about the subject many times already. Most of what you said beyond the first page is pretty much white noise.

 

They really need an age limit for forums i think.

 

@ everyone else: dont you think its time to stop the feeding?

 

Your hypocrisy has me fucking floored right now... good job.

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Ad hominem attacks get you nowhere in a debate. Come back when you have dug that stick out of your ass.

 

You will gladly support a product that fucks you over in the long run. That is why you are blind.

How am I being screwed over? My Nvidia cards have lasted for longer then any AMD cards I've owned. Stop sounding like a raging fangirl. 

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How am I being screwed over? My Nvidia cards have lasted for longer then any AMD cards I've owned. Stop sounding like a raging fangirl. 

Ad hominem attacks? *sigh*

When AMD comes out with a card that cuntpunts Nvidia, you will be unable to use G-Sync with it. End of story.

And selling the original G-Sync monitor for a FreeSync isn't a good way to fix that as you will still be losing money in the end.

I'm not fangirling over anything, quite the opposite actually. I'm being brand agnostic and refusing to get locked in to a certain brand of GPU.

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Ad hominem attacks? *sigh*

When AMD comes out with a card that cuntpunts Nvidia, you will be unable to use G-Sync with it. End of story.

And selling the original G-Sync monitor for a FreeSync isn't a good way to fix that as you will still be losing money in the end.

I'm not fangirling over anything, quite the opposite actually. I'm being brand agnostic and refusing to get locked in to a certain brand of GPU.

Okay so don't buy either and have a worse gaming experience. Your logic is so stupid! Why do you buy anything because it's just gonna force you to be stuck with one thing until you replace it? See the logic there?

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Okay so don't buy either and have a worse gaming experience. Your logic is so stupid! Why do you buy anything because it's just gonna force you to be stuck with one thing until you replace it? See the logic there?

Your strawmanning my argument.

I can switch GPUs at any time and not lose any functionality of my two current monitors.

Both G-Sync and FreeSync will cause me to lose variable refresh rate functionality if I switch GPU.

That is my logic in this situation and it doesn't apply to any other situation.

 

Besides, at 144Hz, screen tearing with v-sync off is nearly undetectable on either of my current monitors and I have no discernible input lag. Even with a variable refresh rate monitor, you will have input lag once you reach the maximum refresh rate of the monitor.

 

Neither of these technologies solve input lag and that's a fact and arguably more important than screen tearing.

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Your strawmanning my argument.

I can switch GPUs at any time and not lose any functionality of my two current monitors.

Both G-Sync and FreeSync will cause me to lose variable refresh rate functionality if I switch GPU.

That is my logic in this situation and it doesn't apply to any other situation.

Besides, at 144Hz, screen tearing with v-sync off is nearly undetectable on either of my current monitors and I have no discernible input lag. Even with a variable refresh rate monitor, you will have input lag once you reach the maximum refresh rate of the monitor.

Neither of these technologies solve input lag and that's a fact and arguably more important than screen tearing.

You said it's nearly undetectable which means it's still there and it's noticeable. There's no comparison to G-Sync and just a 120/144HZ monitor and you saying that shows you've never used it. I don't really care about being locked down to Nvidia, I care about what gives me a better gaming experience. Am I saying AMD wouldn't? No, but it's basically gonna be the same regardless which camp I go. It's always back and forth between the two with performance and pricing so really who cares? I prefer Nvidia because I've had less issues with their cards and drivers. If I wasn't comfortable being tied down to them I never would have bought the Swift. I already have a Nvidia card so it's not like I went out and bought a card to go with the thing. Freesync doesn't work with Nvidia so what should I do go replace my GPU and then be tied down to them for more money? Again, your argument holds no weight.
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You said it's nearly undetectable which means it's still there and it's noticeable. There's no comparison to G-Sync and just a 120/144HZ monitor and you saying that shows you've never used it. I don't really care about being locked down to Nvidia, I care about what gives me a better gaming experience. Am I saying AMD wouldn't? No, but it's basically gonna be the same regardless which camp I go. It's always back and forth between the two with performance and pricing so really who cares? I prefer Nvidia because I've had less issues with their cards and drivers. If I wasn't comfortable being tied down to them I never would have bought the Swift. I already have a Nvidia card so it's not like I went out and bought a card to go with the thing. Freesync doesn't work with Nvidia so what should I do go replace my GPU and then be tied down to them for more money? Again, your argument holds no weight.

My argument holds plenty of weight.

You're not looking at it in an unbiased, logical light.

You failed to address my input lag argument and as someone who has indeed used a G-Sync display I can tell you, input lag is equally present with G-Sync or standard v-sync, tearing be damned. Sure, the image is smoother when below maximum refresh rate but my rig can pump out a consistent 144fps in most titles so G-Sync is pointless.

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My argument holds plenty of weight.

You're not looking at it in an unbiased, logical light.

You failed to address my input lag argument and as someone who has indeed used a G-Sync display I can tell you, input lag is equally present with G-Sync or standard v-sync, tearing be damned. Sure, the image is smoother when below maximum refresh rate but my rig can pump out a consistent 144fps in most titles so G-Sync is pointless.

Then why do you care? Seems to me like you're not happy so have to convince yourself it's not needed.
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Then why do you care? Seems to me like you're not happy so have to convince yourself it's not needed.

You are chocked full of logical fallacies and debate no-no's, aren't you?

I'm perfectly happy with my current setup. What irks me is that people are willing to be bent over the table by corporations and then act as if that's totally ok.

Nvidia doesn't care about you. To them, you are a walking cash dispensary. This attitude is exactly what allows corpos to get away with their bullshit.

 

But nobody seems to understand that.

 

Have fun getting sucked dry by your Nvidia overlords, but I won't put up with this anti-consumeristic garbage.

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You are chocked full of logical fallacies and debate no-no's, aren't you?

I'm perfectly happy with my current setup. What irks me is that people are willing to be bent over the table by corporations and then act as if that's totally ok.

Nvidia doesn't care about you. To them, you are a walking cash dispensary. This attitude is exactly what allows corpos to get away with their bullshit.

But nobody seems to understand that.

Have fun getting sucked dry by your Nvidia overlords, but I won't put up with this anti-consumeristic garbage.

Seems you care incredibly too much about what others do with their money. GPU upgrades are usually every couple of years and so are monitors. I still fail to see your point and it's still a stupid argument. G-Sync is there so you don't have to upgrade your GPU every time it starts getting weaker because you don't need to maintain 60 FPS constantly. If anything it's saving people money but you seem to think there's some evil plot to lock people down and force them to buy only Nvidia or AMD cards.
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Seems you care incredibly too much about what others do with their money. GPU upgrades are usually every couple of years and so are monitors. I still fail to see your point and it's still a stupid argument. G-Sync is there so you don't have to upgrade your GPU every time it starts getting weaker because you don't need to maintain 60 FPS constantly. If anything it's saving people money but you seem to think there's some evil plot to lock people down and force them to buy only Nvidia or AMD cards.

It is a lockdown tactic... maybe a beneficial one to end users, but a lockdown tactic never the less.

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Hi i wanted to share this link with you guys after a lot of links was shut down (no wonder -.-) it's about that G-SYNC is a lie, you dont need the hardware that is applied in the monitors just all you need is driver and monitor that have Display Port 1.2. Here is a link for that https://www.kaldata.com/%D0%A5%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B4%D1%83%D0%B5%D1%80/Nvidia-G-Sync-%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5-%D0%B4%D0%B0-%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B8-%D1%81-%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8F%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%8A%D0%B2-%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B9-%D1%81-DisplayPo-97502.htmlI know it's on bulgarian language but i am sure you can translate it easy with google chrome or google translate, there was a video about that i watch and now they are removed -.- still think that's a lie? Isn't it strange that AMD just relised Free-sync for no money? with no exstra hardware? I want you guys to know that and tell me what do you think :)

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Hi i wanted to share this link with you guys after a lot of links was shut down (no wonder -.-) it's about that G-SYNC is a lie, you dont need the hardware that is applied in the monitors just all you need is driver and monitor that have Display Port 1.2. Here is a link for that https://www.kaldata.com/%D0%A5%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B4%D1%83%D0%B5%D1%80/Nvidia-G-Sync-%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5-%D0%B4%D0%B0-%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B8-%D1%81-%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8F%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%8A%D0%B2-%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B9-%D1%81-DisplayPo-97502.htmlI know it's on bulgarian language but i am sure you can translate it easy with google chrome or google translate, there was a video about that i watch and now they are removed -.- still think that's a lie? Isn't it strange that AMD just relised Free-sync for no money? with no exstra hardware? I want you guys to know that and tell me what do you think :)

You should make a new topic for this... it would get more exposure that way. ;)

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Good lord. The CRYING and feet stamping in here is outrageous.

 

Here, let me go to great length with a LOT of time, resources, and money to develop a great new technology and give it to you for absolutely nothing. Seems legit. It's socialists like yourself that caused my insurance to go up 33% because you all believe in your own entitlement.

 

Whats next? You wont support Intel because only they have a 14nm process and they are more expensive than AMD and won't share the black magic recipe?

 

FFS

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Good lord. The CRYING and feet stamping in here is outrageous.

 

Here, let me go to great length with a LOT of time, resources, and money to develop a great new technology and give it to you for absolutely nothing. Seems legit. It's socialists like yourself that caused my insurance to go up 33% because you all believe in your own entitlement.

 

Whats next? You wont support Intel because only they have a 14nm process and they are more expensive than AMD and won't share the black magic recipe?

 

FFS

 

Hahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha so funny.....welcome to my ignore list.


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Good lord. The CRYING and feet stamping in here is outrageous.

 

Here, let me go to great length with a LOT of time, resources, and money to develop a great new technology and give it to you for absolutely nothing. Seems legit. It's socialists like yourself that caused my insurance to go up 33% because you all believe in your own entitlement.

 

Whats next? You wont support Intel because only they have a 14nm process and they are more expensive than AMD and won't share the black magic recipe?

 

FFS

The ad hominem is strong with this one.

And since when is G-Sync's $200+ price premium "giving it to you for absolutely nothing?"

PS: Staunch libertarian here, so don't pull that name calling shit on me.

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