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XFX Radeon VII or MSI RTX 2080 super gamin x trio ?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I want to get a new GPU but im not expert when it comes to them, i heard both video cards are good but witch one is better? I will only use it for gaming and stream games on twitch, thanks for the help.

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2080.


Main System: AMD Ryzen 3 3200G, 2x8GB Kingston Valueram @ 2666Mhz, Sapphire Radeon R9 290X, Gigabyte A320M-S2H, Kingston 120Gb M.2 SSD, WD Blue 2.5 Inch 1tb HDD, Cooler Master MWE450, Aerocool CS-100, Dell P2210 1680x1050 60Hz, E-Blue Memcanical "RGB" Keyboard, Logitech MX Anywhere 2S | Laptop: HP ProBook X360 G1 EE: Pentium N4200 @ 1.1Ghz, 4Gb DDR3 1600Mhz 128Gb SSD Linux + Windows Dual Boot | FREENAS/Minecraft Server: Dell OptiPlex 7010: Celeron G1610 @ 2.6Ghz 8GB DDR3 Ram, 500GB Single HDD | Mothballed Optiplex: Celeron G1820, 0Gb Ram, 250Gb HDD

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Just now, AntonioMarius said:

Thanks for the comment, i will use it with a Ryzen 9 3950x , Can't wait, my first propper gaming PC :ddd

if you're only gaming, the 3950x won't make a big difference compared with a 3600, which is a quarter of the price.

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Just now, boggy77 said:

if you're only gaming, the 3950x won't make a big difference compared with a 3600, which is a quarter of the price.

I know that but i just want to make a computer that will keep me for 5-10 20000 years you know what i mean, so i dont have to change components every 5-6 years

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Just now, AntonioMarius said:

I know that but i just want to make a computer that will keep me for 5-10 20000 years you know what i mean, so i dont have to change components every 5-6 years

it makes more financial sense to upgrade more often and in that way you also always have up to date components. but that's up to you.

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1 minute ago, AntonioMarius said:

Why?

Because the 2080 is simply better. It's a widely known fact that NVIDIA cards will perform better than AMD cards. Sure, AMD might have better bang for buck, but in your situation, where you can get a 2080, that's the best option. 


Main System: AMD Ryzen 3 3200G, 2x8GB Kingston Valueram @ 2666Mhz, Sapphire Radeon R9 290X, Gigabyte A320M-S2H, Kingston 120Gb M.2 SSD, WD Blue 2.5 Inch 1tb HDD, Cooler Master MWE450, Aerocool CS-100, Dell P2210 1680x1050 60Hz, E-Blue Memcanical "RGB" Keyboard, Logitech MX Anywhere 2S | Laptop: HP ProBook X360 G1 EE: Pentium N4200 @ 1.1Ghz, 4Gb DDR3 1600Mhz 128Gb SSD Linux + Windows Dual Boot | FREENAS/Minecraft Server: Dell OptiPlex 7010: Celeron G1610 @ 2.6Ghz 8GB DDR3 Ram, 500GB Single HDD | Mothballed Optiplex: Celeron G1820, 0Gb Ram, 250Gb HDD

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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

it makes more financial sense to upgrade more often and in that way you also always have up to date components. but that's up to you.

BTW you think that ryze 5 3600 would be good for gaming ? Like even with demandind game titles? on full settings, with that msi rtx 2080 card? will it work ? As i told you im not an expert

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Just now, AntonioMarius said:

BTW you think that ryze 5 3600 would be good for gaming ? Like even with demandind game titles? on full settings, with that msi rtx 2080 card? will it work ? As i told you im not an expert

on average, the 3600 will give you 1% lower frames than the 3950x when paired with a 2080 super.

I wouldn't pay 3 times more for 1%.

 

https://www.gpucheck.com/en-usd/compare/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-super-vs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-super/amd-ryzen-5-3600-vs-amd-ryzen-9-3950x/ultra/ultra/-vs-

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, AntonioMarius said:

BTW you think that ryze 5 3600 would be good for gaming ? Like even with demandind game titles? on full settings, with that msi rtx 2080 card? will it work ? As i told you im not an expert

 

5 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

it makes more financial sense to upgrade more often and in that way you also always have up to date components. but that's up to you.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Ryzen-3600X-Processor-Cache/dp/B07SQBFN2D/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=ryzen%2B3600&qid=1582652749&sr=8-2&th=1

Take a look at this please

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1 minute ago, AntonioMarius said:

the difference between the 3600 and the 3600x is that the 3600x has a better cooler. with your budget, i'd replace the stock cooler anyway, so there's no point in getting the x version.

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Just now, boggy77 said:

the difference between the 3600 and the 3600x is that the 3600x has a better cooler. with your budget, i'd replace the stock cooler anyway, so there's no point in getting the x version.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07GKSFC6J/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

I was thinking to get this one for the 3950x but since u are here and you told me that there is no difference betweeen those 2 if i only game and stream, what do you think , will this fit on this one as well ?

 

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Just now, AntonioMarius said:

BTW you think that ryze 5 3600 would be good for gaming ? Like even with demandind game titles? on full settings, with that msi rtx 2080 card? will it work ? As i told you im not an expert

R5 3600 is an excellent midrange cpu and right now game performance is mostly dominated by the graphics card. If you saved the $500+ from getting a 3600 instead of the 3950x, you could get a 2080 Ti, which is probably the best consumer gpu, not counting the RTX titan. That would be the best choice.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

@AntonioMarius if you give us an overall budget and system use/requirements, we can recommend a full build for you.

Well that msi rtxa 2080 super gaming x trio and this CPU that you told me that ryzen 5 3600 and 32 gb ram 3200 mhz if i am not wrong, and from here you can help me if you can, btw, I am in the uk so if you can send me links of amazon that would be great =))

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Just now, Freohr said:

R5 3600 is an excellent midrange cpu and right now game performance is mostly dominated by the graphics card. If you saved the $500+ from getting a 3600 instead of the 3950x, you could get a 2080 Ti, which is probably the best consumer gpu, not counting the RTX titan. That would be the best choice.

Thanks for the help mate, so happy that i joinded this site , love to everyone haha

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3 minutes ago, AntonioMarius said:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07GKSFC6J/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

I was thinking to get this one for the 3950x but since u are here and you told me that there is no difference betweeen those 2 if i only game and stream, what do you think , will this fit on this one as well ?

 

That's a good cooler if you want to go liquid cooling. You could also go for air cooling with a noctua d15.

If you want to stream as well, get the 3700x instead of the 3600, the 2 extra cores will help.

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2 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

That's a good cooler if you want to go liquid cooling. You could also go for air cooling with a noctua d15.

If you want to stream as well, get the 3700x instead of the 3600, the 2 extra cores will help.

Will it be good with the motherboard that the cpu comes with ? https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-ROG-X570-F-Motherboard-Lighting/dp/B07TLM9YHL/ref=bdl_pop_ttl_B07TLM9YHL

 Or are there cheaper ones that are the same? Thanks for the help

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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

That's a good cooler if you want to go liquid cooling. You could also go for air cooling with a noctua d15.

If you want to stream as well, get the 3700x instead of the 3600, the 2 extra cores will help.

Im not streaming everyday, casual, just for fun, and im doing it in 720 p usually :))

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Posted · Original PosterOP
6 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

That's a good cooler if you want to go liquid cooling. You could also go for air cooling with a noctua d15.

If you want to stream as well, get the 3700x instead of the 3600, the 2 extra cores will help.

so i think the 3600 one is still ok saving a little bit of money for a better gpu =))

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7 minutes ago, AntonioMarius said:

Will it be good with the motherboard that the cpu comes with ? https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-ROG-X570-F-Motherboard-Lighting/dp/B07TLM9YHL/ref=bdl_pop_ttl_B07TLM9YHL

 Or are there cheaper ones that are the same? Thanks for the help

This Mobo tier list is good for checking how good they are:

 

That mobo is in tier A an is perfectly fine for your usecase, maybe even a bit overkill :)


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