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I recently made a complete gaming configuration worth of ~2200£ including the 4k monitor and peripherals, all from Amazon, except the CPU. I rushed a bit and i am not sure  I made the best choises.

 

I ordered:

- Monitor - ASUS MG28UQ, 4K (3840x2160) Gaming Monitor, 1ms -  £353.99

- Motherboard - Aorus Z390 AORUS PRO (Socket 1151/Z390 Express/DDR4/S-ATA 600/ATX) - £177.95

- CPU - I7 9700k - £400

- Liquid Cooling - Corsair CW-9060027-WW Hydro Series H115i 280 mm Extreme Performance All-In-One Liquid CPU Cooler - Black - £122.88

- Graphics card - ASUS Dual GeForce RTX 2060 Advanced Edition 6 GB GDDR6 with NVIDIA Turing GPU Architecture DUAL-RTX2060-A6G  -  £377.99

- HDD WD 2 TB Performance Hard Drive - Black -  £109.98

- Intel Optane Memory 32GB M.2 HDD Accelerator £62.05

- M.2 SSD Samsung 970 PRO 512 GB V-NAND M.2 PCI Express Solid State Drive - Black £141.98

- RAM Memory - Corsair 163301 Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3200 MHz C16 XMP 2.0 High Performance Desktop Memory Kit, Black £215.99

- 80 PLUS Bronze Power Supply Unit - Corsair CP-9020123-UK CX Series 750 W CX750 ATX/EPS 80 PLUS Bronze Power Supply Unit - Black £64.99

- Case - Corsair 275Q Carbide Series, Mid-Tower Quiet Gaming Case - Black £77.58

 

 

 

I am a bit concerned if I made the best choose for the Graphics card. Performance and long term games compatibility . I will probably never upgrade it.

 

Do you recommend some better for the same money or similar. I live in  UK.

 

Is it older than 1080? What is the logic/hierarchy of them? I chosed it by price and because it starts with 20xx :D

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That's a decent rig you got there mate, no question.

 

If you wanted to game at 4k 60fps at highest settings, perhaps the RTX 2060 wasn't the best choice.

I'm not overly sure how well the 2060 preformes at 4k, but id imagine you'd have to turn down settings or decrease your gaming resolution. 

The '60 line of an nVidia generation are usually mid range

 

A 1080Ti is a much better option over the stupidly priced counterpart - 2080Ti.

I'd have gotten a second hand 1080Ti personally - I've seen some for roughly £450; my dad just bought one and was pristine. 

 

Marhier!

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The best you can hope for with the 2060 is about 40FPS in games running at 4K. 

 

Plenty of benchmarks out there which tested the 2060 in 4K showing 30-40 FPS in a few titles.

Its playable. But you would have been much better off with a 1440p monitor or a a better card. 

 

As @Marhier wrote, the 1080Ti is an option and does better than the 2060 in 4K performance.

4K is hugely demanding on a GPU. Since you have already purchased the 2060, if you cant return it and swap it for another card, then you will need to be prepared for low FPS in games, or really tuning down the graphics settings to get it running smoother.

 

The alternative, would be changing your display settings to 1440p instead of 4k (or getting a different monitor) which would also increase the performance in games. But then that just means you wasted money on a 4K monitor to run at 1440p.

CPU
Intel® Core i9 9900K 8 Core 16 Threads
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG Strix Z390-E
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB
Graphics Card
MSI RTX 2080 Gaming X Trio

1st Drive

500GB Samsung 970 EVO NVME 

2nd Drive

1TB Samsung 970 EVO NVME
3rd Hard Disk
480GB KINGSTON HYPERX 3K SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 450MB/sW)
4th Hard Disk
2TB 3.5" SEAGATE SSHD, SATA 6Gb/s 7200 RPM

5th Hard Disk
2TB 3.5" SEAGATE SSHD, SATA 6Gb/s 7200 RPM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RM SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET 
Processor Cooling
Corsair H150i Pr 360mm AIO

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I am not looking for 4k gaming specifically, but if it's possible why not.

 

I wanted 4k monitor first to get some extra working space to cover the need for the second monitor. I am very limited on space! I am still trying to find a solution to organise all my stuff.

 

Is a xx60 motherboard likely to get outdated before a xx80 ?(supporting newer games technology)

 

Is 1080 overall better than 2060? Not just for 4k but lower resolution. 

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17 minutes ago, CosminRotaru said:

I wanted 4k monitor first to get some extra working space to cover the need for the second monitor. I am very limited on space! I am still trying to find a solution to organise all my stuff.

 

Is 1080 overall better than 2060? Not just for 4k but lower resolution. 

I really cant understand the first sentence. A monitors resolution is different from screen size. You can get a 4K 27", 1440p 27" or even a 1080p 27" so im not sure if im just tired and missing the point or if the sentence itself just doesnt make sense.

 

No. The 1080 will be on par if not slightly better at 4K in SOME titles but not others. Again, for 4K, its 1080Ti, 2080Ti (maybe the 2080 too but its hit and miss). Otherwise, its not worth the performance hit. 

CPU
Intel® Core i9 9900K 8 Core 16 Threads
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG Strix Z390-E
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB
Graphics Card
MSI RTX 2080 Gaming X Trio

1st Drive

500GB Samsung 970 EVO NVME 

2nd Drive

1TB Samsung 970 EVO NVME
3rd Hard Disk
480GB KINGSTON HYPERX 3K SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 450MB/sW)
4th Hard Disk
2TB 3.5" SEAGATE SSHD, SATA 6Gb/s 7200 RPM

5th Hard Disk
2TB 3.5" SEAGATE SSHD, SATA 6Gb/s 7200 RPM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RM SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET 
Processor Cooling
Corsair H150i Pr 360mm AIO

Case:

Lian Li O11 Air

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1080Ti > 2060

Not sure how the standard 1080 compares to the 2060.

 

To be honest, turning your resolution to 1440p on a 4k monitor still looks stellar imo - but yeah, if I bought a 4k monitor, I'd want to get the use of its full potential.

 

Your motherboard and CPU are fine mate; you won't need to be upgrading them for a while. 

 

I've only just upgraded my cpu to a 9900k from a 3770k - I only did that because a power surge killed my rig last Sunday :(

 

Like I said mate, your build is pretty solid, just depends what you want to grey out of it. 

 

I'd personally change the 2060 for a 1080Ti.

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screen resolutions mean nothing without knowing the target frame rate and games. 1080p 240fps is just as demanding to the GPU as 4K 60fps for example, but 4 times as demanding to the CPU.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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48 minutes ago, Marhier said:

That's a decent rig you got there mate, no question.

 

If you wanted to game at 4k 60fps at highest settings, perhaps the RTX 2060 wasn't the best choice.

I'm not overly sure how well the 2060 preformes at 4k, but id imagine you'd have to turn down settings or decrease your gaming resolution. 

The '60 line of an nVidia generation are usually mid range

 

A 1080Ti is a much better option over the stupidly priced counterpart - 2080Ti.

I'd have gotten a second hand 1080Ti personally - I've seen some for roughly £450; my dad just bought one and was pristine. 

 

Marhier!

Mostly because 1080Ti weren't used for mining.

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So what version should I get it swapped to? It neees to be around my 400£ budget from amazon.co.uk or some reputable uk websites(that i don't know :D) 

 

Again, mine is :

ASUS Dual GeForce RTX 2060 Advanced Edition 6 GB GDDR6 with NVIDIA Turing GPU Architecture DUAL-RTX2060-A6GO - OCMode - GPU Boost Clock: 1725 MHz , Dual Two Fan Advanced

 

How about this one: 

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB ROG STRIX GAMING GDDR5X VR Ready Graphics Card - Black

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-NVIDIA-GeForce-GAMING-Graphics/dp/B01GYLXUJ6/ref=mp_s_a_1_24?ie=UTF8&qid=1553346684&sr=8-24&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=1080ti&dpPl=1&dpID=51YtK8o4w0L&ref=plSrch

 

 

Its usee and It's 70£ more comparing with 2060 I ordered. They are really expensive. Does it worth?

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26 minutes ago, Findiculous said:

I really cant understand the first sentence. A monitors resolution is different from screen size. You can get a 4K 27", 1440p 27" or even a 1080p 27" so im not sure if im just tired and missing the point or if the sentence itself just doesnt make sense.

 

No. The 1080 will be on par if not slightly better at 4K in SOME titles but not others. Again, for 4K, its 1080Ti, 2080Ti (maybe the 2080 too but its hit and miss). Otherwise, its not worth the performance hit. 

Having a bigger resolution on the working ,,space'' doesn't mean more details and implicitly more working surface? (Considering you are able to work comfortable to the same scale)

 

The monitor is:

 

ASUS MG28UQ, 4K (3840x2160) Gaming Monitor, 1ms, DP, HDMI, USB 3.0, FreeSync, 28 Inch, Black 
 
       
£353.99
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1 hour ago, CosminRotaru said:

So what version should I get it swapped to? It neees to be around my 400£ budget from amazon.co.uk or some reputable uk websites(that i don't know :D) 

 

Again, mine is :

ASUS Dual GeForce RTX 2060 Advanced Edition 6 GB GDDR6 with NVIDIA Turing GPU Architecture DUAL-RTX2060-A6GO - OCMode - GPU Boost Clock: 1725 MHz , Dual Two Fan Advanced

 

How about this one: 

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB ROG STRIX GAMING GDDR5X VR Ready Graphics Card - Black

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-NVIDIA-GeForce-GAMING-Graphics/dp/B01GYLXUJ6/ref=mp_s_a_1_24?ie=UTF8&qid=1553346684&sr=8-24&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=1080ti&dpPl=1&dpID=51YtK8o4w0L&ref=plSrch

 

 

Its usee and It's 70£ more comparing with 2060 I ordered. They are really expensive. Does it worth?

As previously stated, it is not comparable for a boost in 4k performance. If your budget is £400 for a GPU then you wont be playing high presets at 4K unless you are happy with a 30-40FPS (some games will be much much less than that and you can expect drops to 20FPS)

 

If your only other option is a 1080, then just stick with the 2060

CPU
Intel® Core i9 9900K 8 Core 16 Threads
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG Strix Z390-E
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB
Graphics Card
MSI RTX 2080 Gaming X Trio

1st Drive

500GB Samsung 970 EVO NVME 

2nd Drive

1TB Samsung 970 EVO NVME
3rd Hard Disk
480GB KINGSTON HYPERX 3K SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 450MB/sW)
4th Hard Disk
2TB 3.5" SEAGATE SSHD, SATA 6Gb/s 7200 RPM

5th Hard Disk
2TB 3.5" SEAGATE SSHD, SATA 6Gb/s 7200 RPM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RM SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET 
Processor Cooling
Corsair H150i Pr 360mm AIO

Case:

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This is the one for 4k £400 budget for a gpu:

 

https://www.ebuyer.com/820106-asus-rog-strix-rx-vega64-oc-edition-graphics-card-rog-strix-rxvega64-o8g-gaming?fo_c=951&fo_k=2a8dcefc9fd9ce84421e8c86fbcecdc7&fo_s=webgains&wgu=267255_206719_15533592388902_441f70c560&wgexpiry=1561135238&utm_source=webgains&utm_siteid=206719

 

Let me explain. Vega 64 is better at 4k than the 1080 and 2060 because it has more 2gb vram than the 2060, and it has hbcc in case you run out of vram (That will eventually happen in a year or two at 4k). You will keep smooth framerates for longer than both the 1080 and 2060, and even the 2070. HBCC gives it the edge for me, even over the 2070 which has slightly better performance right now. Turing cards are overpriced and the vram on them is a disgrace. 8gb on the 2080, 6gb on the 2060...it's outrageous.

 

The card I mentioned is the best you could get within the 400 budget. Not only do you get more vram and equivalent performance to the 2060, you also get 6 games! That's £300 worth of games. Nothing can come close to that kind of value.

 

If you don't mind the power consumption, get this thing. It's a no-brainer and the value wipes the floor with the rest of the competition on the market right now.

 

 

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55 minutes ago, MeatFeastMan said:

This is the one for 4k £400 budget for a gpu:

 

https://www.ebuyer.com/820106-asus-rog-strix-rx-vega64-oc-edition-graphics-card-rog-strix-rxvega64-o8g-gaming?fo_c=951&fo_k=2a8dcefc9fd9ce84421e8c86fbcecdc7&fo_s=webgains&wgu=267255_206719_15533592388902_441f70c560&wgexpiry=1561135238&utm_source=webgains&utm_siteid=206719

 

Let me explain. Vega 64 is better at 4k than the 1080 and 2060 because it has more 2gb vram than the 2060, and it has hbcc in case you run out of vram (That will eventually happen in a year or two at 4k). You will keep smooth framerates for longer than both the 1080 and 2060, and even the 2070. HBCC gives it the edge for me, even over the 2070 which has slightly better performance right now. Turing cards are overpriced and the vram on them is a disgrace. 8gb on the 2080, 6gb on the 2060...it's outrageous.

 

The card I mentioned is the best you could get within the 400 budget. Not only do you get more vram and equivalent performance to the 2060, you also get 6 games! That's £300 worth of games. Nothing can come close to that kind of value.

 

If you don't mind the power consumption, get this thing. It's a no-brainer and the value wipes the floor with the rest of the competition on the market right now.

 

how about this 400£ used 1080ti

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GTX-1080-TI-GAMING/dp/B06XT3TVKP/ref=sr_1_6?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1553362804&sr=1-6&keywords=1080ti

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2 hours ago, Marhier said:

This is a steal mate... I'd be all over this!
Get that if you can!

Only If I can get a proper warranty I will get it. Still waiting for a feedback...

 

I updated the configuration. Can't wait until tuesday!

 

this 1080TI is

- 11 GB GDDR5x

- 352bit 11.01GHz / 1,683 MHz /

 

my RTX 2060 Advanced Edition is

Boost Clock 1680 MHz

Frame Buffer 6GB GDDR6

Memory Speed14 Gbps

 

Is the memory that makes the differences in fps at high resolutions?

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I'd go for either an RTX 2070 or even a 2080 if you can afford it. The CPU is capable to drive a much higher class GPU than a 2060 without bottlenecking. If you want a stable 60FPS at 4K, an RTX 2080 is actually an absolute minimum. My overclocked RTX 2070 can achieve something around 50FPS maximum with most modern games and even many older ones from about 5 years ago and even with an RTX 2080 you can only expect something around 55FPS in The Witcher 3, for example. I actually wouldn't recommend gaming at 4k at all. I'd rather go for a 1440p or even a 1080p high refresh free- or g-sync screen and for some extra sharpness you could use Dynamic Super Resolution - not as sharp as real 4K but it offers a lot more flexibility if you want to finetune performance.

Also, the PSU is not a fantastic choice - I'd rather go with a good 650w PSU than with a mediocre 750w - especially if you plan on overclocking. People like to recommend the BitFenix Whisper M 650W as a very good performer for the price.

And if you want to drop down the price I'd rather go for an i7 8700k and a better GPU than a 9700k which massively outclasses the 2060 you chose which is not good if you never plan on upgrading. Even an i7 8700k should be fast enough to rarely if ever bottleneck an RTX 2080.

 

Edit: Also, the Intel Optane is a complete waste of money for gaming imho - game data is usually pretty variable and rarely the same as it would be during a Windows 10 boot for example so the precaching of often used data won't work very effectively. If you have one or two games with longer loading times - just install them on your SSD - 512GB should be good enough to have a few games installed on it. It might even have no noticable effect at all cause it could end up just automatically caching the OS data on your SSD which is already fast enough instead of the games on your HDD.

Edit2: And, I think some variant of a Corsair H100i (not an x, tho) would be good enough for some decent CPU overclocks. The performance difference to the H115i isn't that big. So that's also some money you could save.

Edit3: That WD Black HDD is completely unnecessary overkill as well. You can get a Toshiba X300 7200RPM 4TB for that kind of money. Those are known for good reliability and should be just as fast.

Edit4: And last but not least - the case: The 275q looks like it has horrible airflow - if you like the looks I'd rather go with the Corsair 400Q V2. That looks at is if it has some decent air intake at the sides at least.

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10 hours ago, Hans Power said:

I'd go for either an RTX 2070 or even a 2080 if you can afford it. The CPU is capable to drive a much higher class GPU than a 2060 without bottlenecking. If you want a stable 60FPS at 4K, an RTX 2080 is actually an absolute minimum. My overclocked RTX 2070 can achieve something around 50FPS maximum with most modern games and even many older ones from about 5 years ago and even with an RTX 2080 you can only expect something around 55FPS in The Witcher 3, for example. I actually wouldn't recommend gaming at 4k at all. I'd rather go for a 1440p or even a 1080p high refresh free- or g-sync screen and for some extra sharpness you could use Dynamic Super Resolution - not as sharp as real 4K but it offers a lot more flexibility if you want to finetune performance.

Also, the PSU is not a fantastic choice - I'd rather go with a good 650w PSU than with a mediocre 750w - especially if you plan on overclocking. People like to recommend the BitFenix Whisper M 650W as a very good performer for the price.

And if you want to drop down the price I'd rather go for an i7 8700k and a better GPU than a 9700k which massively outclasses the 2060 you chose which is not good if you never plan on upgrading. Even an i7 8700k should be fast enough to rarely if ever bottleneck an RTX 2080.

 

Edit: Also, the Intel Optane is a complete waste of money for gaming imho - game data is usually pretty variable and rarely the same as it would be during a Windows 10 boot for example so the precaching of often used data won't work very effectively. If you have one or two games with longer loading times - just install them on your SSD - 512GB should be good enough to have a few games installed on it. It might even have no noticable effect at all cause it could end up just automatically caching the OS data on your SSD which is already fast enough instead of the games on your HDD.

Edit2: And, I think some variant of a Corsair H100i (not an x, tho) would be good enough for some decent CPU overclocks. The performance difference to the H115i isn't that big. So that's also some money you could save.

Edit3: That WD Black HDD is completely unnecessary overkill as well. You can get a Toshiba X300 7200RPM 4TB for that kind of money. Those are known for good reliability and should be just as fast.

Edit4: And last but not least - the case: The 275q looks like it has horrible airflow - if you like the looks I'd rather go with the Corsair 400Q V2. That looks at is if it has some decent air intake at the sides at least.

 

thanks for your advices!

 

did someone returned something on amazon? how does it work if you openned up the package? I am thinking about returning some parts later if I decide to do changes. I need to have the new gaming experience. I use to play games on my notebook with a gt720M... that is the best i ever had :D

 

- the ram - I should probably stick to 16gb for now. I can probably upgrade it later

- the psu: I thought I made a good choice with that corsair. what is wrong about it? the gold thing is just about efficiency. i don't think the power rating is misleading on corsair.

- the case:  that case was exactly my first choice, but unfortunatelly, is not available yet. just for preorder , no estimated date.

- the graphics card: is rtx 2080 a better choice than 1080ti? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-GPU-RTX2080-Windforce-Fan/dp/B07J62TQV8/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1553422405&sr=8-8&keywords=rtx2080

- the optane - I think youre wrong about it.

 

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3 hours ago, CosminRotaru said:

 

thanks for your advices!

 

did someone returned something on amazon? how does it work if you openned up the package? I am thinking about returning some parts later if I decide to do changes. I need to have the new gaming experience. I use to play games on my notebook with a gt720M... that is the best i ever had :D

 

- the ram - I should probably stick to 16gb for now. I can probably upgrade it later

- the psu: I thought I made a good choice with that corsair. what is wrong about it? the gold thing is just about efficiency. i don't think the power rating is misleading on corsair.

- the case:  that case was exactly my first choice, but unfortunatelly, is not available yet. just for preorder , no estimated date.

- the graphics card: is rtx 2080 a better choice than 1080ti? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-GPU-RTX2080-Windforce-Fan/dp/B07J62TQV8/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1553422405&sr=8-8&keywords=rtx2080

- the optane - I think youre wrong about it.

 

Amazon is super lenient on returns. Just send it back in its original packaging.

 

- RAM was actually a decent choice - CPU memory controllers can have trouble if you populate all 4 slots especially when the CPU is overclocked so having 2x16 is pretty good if your really need 32 GB RAM and you still benefit from dual channel memory. That's part of why most overclocking boards only have 2 memory slots.

- It's not just about efficiency but also about how stable the power ends up being which gets to your system which might grant you better overclocks and longer component live. Also the fans on the CX PSUs aren't great (sleeve bearings). I had a CX600m and mine started to sound like a lawnmower after about 5 years.

- Then I'd recommend something like the Fractal Design Meshify C. That one has awesome airflow due to it's Mesh front - means that you can let your fans spin at a lower RPM which reduces noise while still keeping temps low.

- Depends on the price - The 2080 is only slightly faster than a 1080 Ti but also has RTX (which is almost useless atm cause very few games support this)

- I'm actually very sure about this - I followed coverage of Optane when it came out and reviews were pretty united in the opinion that this is very interesting technology but overall not very useful, not only for games, actually. I already gave you an explanation, why.

CPU: AMD R5 5600x | Mainboard: MSI MAG B550m Mortar Wifi | RAM: 32GB Crucial Ballistix 3200 Rev E | GPU: MSI RTX 2070 Armor | Case: Xigmatek Aquila | PSU: Corsair RM650i | SSDs: Crucial BX300 120GB | Samsung 840 EVO 120GB | Crucial m500 120GB | HDDs: 2x Seagate Barracuda 4TB | CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 | Casefans: Bitfenix Spectre LED red 200mm (Intake), Bequiet Pure Wings 2 140mm (Exhaust) | OS: Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit

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On 3/24/2019 at 10:56 AM, Hans Power said:

Amazon is super lenient on returns. Just send it back in its original packaging.

 

- RAM was actually a decent choice - CPU memory controllers can have trouble if you populate all 4 slots especially when the CPU is overclocked so having 2x16 is pretty good if your really need 32 GB RAM and you still benefit from dual channel memory. That's part of why most overclocking boards only have 2 memory slots.

- It's not just about efficiency but also about how stable the power ends up being which gets to your system which might grant you better overclocks and longer component live. Also the fans on the CX PSUs aren't great (sleeve bearings). I had a CX600m and mine started to sound like a lawnmower after about 5 years.

- Then I'd recommend something like the Fractal Design Meshify C. That one has awesome airflow due to it's Mesh front - means that you can let your fans spin at a lower RPM which reduces noise while still keeping temps low.

- Depends on the price - The 2080 is only slightly faster than a 1080 Ti but also has RTX (which is almost useless atm cause very few games support this)

- I'm actually very sure about this - I followed coverage of Optane when it came out and reviews were pretty united in the opinion that this is very interesting technology but overall not very useful, not only for games, actually. I already gave you an explanation, why.

Well... You were right about Optane! I am stubborn and I had to check it for myself. I couldn't see an difference without it.

 

And not just that! It forces you to use raid instead of AHCI and apparently that bottlenecks the SSD by half. I couldn't get more than 150mb/s for read/write in benchmark. After further Investigation I found out that the bios won't even see the SSD as nvme, or anything on m.2 . Even though I was running Windows from the SSD I couldn't install nvme driver.

 

After my experience, I don't find it useful in any possible case considering the price. For the same price you can get a decent SSD just for the windows partition and also keep the HDD.

 

Should I open a new topic for this?

What do you recommend?

Should I sell the HDD + the money from the optane and get a 2TB Crucial mx500 SSD?

 

How is that in therms of reliability comparing with a WD black HDD?

 

I am thinking to buy a Corsair mx500 500gb and keep the WD HDD. How are those Crucial? Do you recommend them?

 

Thanks!

I kept the rtx 2060 and I am more than happy with it. Some games can be played decently on 4k with 45+ FPS. For the same fps I can play Battlefield with everything on ultra but on QHD(I think, it's the next one bellow 4k)

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2 hours ago, CosminRotaru said:

Should I open a new topic for this?

What do you recommend?

Should I sell the HDD + the money from the optane and get a 2TB Crucial mx500 SSD?

 

How is that in therms of reliability comparing with a WD black HDD?

 

I am thinking to buy a Corsair mx500 500gb and keep the WD HDD. How are those Crucial? Do you recommend them?

So, first and foremost, I'd recommend any Crucial SSD any time of the day. Crucial is the Consumer brand for Micron and very reliable and usually pretty cheap. They're often not as fast as Samsung but Samsung is also a lot more expensive. Still plenty fast, tho.

 

Reliability for SSDs is a bit different than it is for HDDs. An HDD can potentially last for a long time but they can also fail pretty much instantly due to numerous mechanical errors whereas SSDs have a set (but veeery long) lifespan in which they almost never break because they have no moving parts - so in reality an SSD is far more reliable than any HDD because the SSD will most likely outlive the life of your PC anyway. For example, my ~10year old 120GB Crucial M500 still has 61% of its life left according to its readouts.

 

So, the idea of selling the HDD + Optane to get a 2TB SSD isn't bad but you'd also have the option to get a 512GB SSD together with a 2TB (or even 4TB) HDD - so you could keep the majority of games on your HDD and put the ones which have really long loading times on the SSD - either choice is valid imo. But please keep in mind that your WD Black is extremely overpriced. The Toshiba X300 I mentioned earlier is just as reliable and costs only half of what the WD Black costs. The last time WDs "Black" branding had any kind of meaningful performance and/or reliability benefit was like 15 years ago. Now it's just overpriced with no benefit at all. Also, just in case you didn't know - HDD/SSD speed doesn't improve FPS or game performance in any way - only the loading times.

CPU: AMD R5 5600x | Mainboard: MSI MAG B550m Mortar Wifi | RAM: 32GB Crucial Ballistix 3200 Rev E | GPU: MSI RTX 2070 Armor | Case: Xigmatek Aquila | PSU: Corsair RM650i | SSDs: Crucial BX300 120GB | Samsung 840 EVO 120GB | Crucial m500 120GB | HDDs: 2x Seagate Barracuda 4TB | CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 | Casefans: Bitfenix Spectre LED red 200mm (Intake), Bequiet Pure Wings 2 140mm (Exhaust) | OS: Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit

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I will think about that. Most probably I will get a mx500 512 GB. I know the FPS thing. 

 

I just bought 1080ti for 515£. It's a return, but it's from Amazon whose.

I am returning the 2060 as soon as I get the otherone

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wow that's quite the machine.. are you building that yourself?

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On 3/24/2019 at 5:20 AM, CosminRotaru said:

Only If I can get a proper warranty I will get it. Still waiting for a feedback...

 

I updated the configuration. Can't wait until tuesday!

 

this 1080TI is

- 11 GB GDDR5x

- 352bit 11.01GHz / 1,683 MHz /

 

my RTX 2060 Advanced Edition is

Boost Clock 1680 MHz

Frame Buffer 6GB GDDR6

Memory Speed14 Gbps

 

Is the memory that makes the differences in fps at high resolutions?

I think memory is more to affect how good it will render 3D texture than FPS.

The core which really matters to FPS. CMIIW

 

My system specs:

Spoiler

CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K, 5GHz Delidded LM || CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-C14S w/ NF-A15 & NF-A14 Chromax fans in push-pull cofiguration || Motherboard: MSI Z370i Gaming Pro Carbon AC || RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2x8Gb 2666 || GPU: EVGA GTX 1060 6Gb FTW2+ DT || Storage: Samsung 860 Evo M.2 SATA SSD 250Gb, 2x 2.5" HDDs 1Tb & 500Gb || ODD: 9mm Slim DVD RW || PSU: Corsair SF600 80+ Platinum || Case: Cougar QBX + 1x Noctua NF-R8 front intake + 2x Noctua NF-F12 iPPC top exhaust + Cougar stock 92mm DC fan rear exhaust || Monitor: ASUS VG248QE || Keyboard: Ducky One 2 Mini Cherry MX Red || Mouse: Logitech G703 || Audio: Corsair HS70 Wireless || Other: XBox One S Controler

My build logs:

 

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