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I have a question about a Mac Pro upgrade. I recently acquired a 2010 5,1 Mac Pro. I have tried repeatedly to upgrade the OS to something recent like big sur or monterey, but quickly realized it's unsupported. After watching a few youtube videos, I realized it was all because the graphics card this mac came with stock does (some ATI one) not support Metal, Apple's new graphics engine API. I found a couple videos explaining what graphics card you CAN upgrade it with, and that DO WORK with metal on the 5,1 Mac Pro, but I wanted to check with you guys to make sure that I could have decent performance with something like a GIGABYTE Radeon RX 570 8GB GDDR5, or a (used) PNY NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 VCGGTX680XPB ENT ED 2GB GDDR5. I have a budget so heres a list of ones i was considering based on other lists of compatible ones: (all used) GIGABYTE Radeon RX 570 8GB GDDR5 PNY NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 ENT ED 2GB GDDR5 NVIDIA Quadro K5000 4GB GDDR5 XFX AMD Radeon R9 290X 4GB SAPPHIRE NITRO Radeon RX 580 8gb I've heard the nvidias need drivers to work with metal, which i'm not too keen on because messing with computers isn't really my thing. I narrowed down the variables that have to work: It has to be EFI boot screen compatible, work with metal on the latest OS, not require a power supply upgrade, and not have to install drivers. I am looking for a recommendation for a graphics card that checks all these boxes and can be acquired used for an affordable price. I'm also wondering if I could have moderately good performance with a new graphics card and no other upgrades on the mac pro, and which graphics card i should buy for a tight budget and that works. I will be doing music production only on this computer, and the reason I need it to upgrade is because music software won't run on El Capitan LOL! Thanks!! ggossett PS. I'm using a Mac mini rn with 1.5GB of ram total
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Here are the ones listed from Apple's doc: AMD Radeon RX 560 AMD Radeon RX 570 AMD Radeon RX 580 AMD Radeon Pro WX 7100 AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 AMD Radeon Pro WX 9100 AMD Radeon Frontier Edition Will they all work fine with Metal? There was a section that specifies a specific model, but I wonder if anything changed in the last decade I'm helping a co-worker due to Teradici (PcoIP) version 20.04 not working on his Mac Pro running on High Sierra. -
Summary Apple Silicon Macbook Pro could launch as early as "Summer 2021." 16 inch model (J316) and 14 inch Macbook Pro (J314) rumored to have 4 thunderbolt ports and upgraded CPU: "Jade C-Chop" and "Jade C-Die" Apple Silicon Macbook Air: rumored to have a CPU very similar to M1, but faster, code named "Staten" Apple Silicon "Low End" 13 inch Macbook Pro: rumored to also use "Staten" CPU Apple Silicon Mac Pro rumored to "look like a smaller version of the 2019 Mac Pro," have a super-sized CPU: "Jade 2C-Die" and "Jade 4C-Die" Revision to Mac Mini (J374) rumored to get 4 thunderbolt ports and the same CPU as Macbook Pro J316 Apple Silicon iMac Processor rumors: Jade C-Chop: 8 firestorm, 2 icestorm cores, 16 GPU cores, up to 64 GB RAM Jade C-Die: 8 firestorm, 2 icestorm cores, 32 GPU cores, up to 64 GB RAM Jade 2C-Die: 16 firestorm, 4 icestorm cores, 64 GPU cores Jade 4C-Die: 32 firestorm, 8 icestorm cores, 128 GPU cores Staten: all cores the same as M1 except faster, and with 9-10 GPU cores Quotes My thoughts I'm pretty excited for when benchmarks are released of the 40-core Jade 4C-Die. Sources https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-18/apple-readies-macbook-pro-macbook-air-revamps-with-faster-chips https://9to5mac.com/2021/05/18/40-core-mac-pro-high-end-mac-mini-in-development/ -
Hello! In the end of 2020 I bought an Samsung 860 EVO 4 TB to my Mac Pro 5.1 from 2012. I had an 2 TB 850 EVO earlier without any problems. I installed the new disc and even managed to upgrade to MacOS Big Sur 11.1 via open core. I noticed that everything was slower on the new SSD. Adobe apps were lagging, especially Dreamweaver. I tested the disc in DriveDX and found an issue called UDMA CRC Error Count. I was told to change cables in the computer because there were problems with connection between SSD and logic board. But there are no cables in Mac Pro, the SSD is installed on a pci-e card directly in a slot. With time this error grew. The number of data transfer errors increased (see attached file). I have had it in for check twice in a store here in Sweden but they couldn’t find anything serious, but they told me that the disk isn’t compatible with Mac. Well, it can be used, I know that, but how much this problem is lagging it down I don’t know. I have also tested my 2 TB Samsung 850 EVO, which I am using right now, and that had no issues. I have also an 1 TB 850 EVO, bought back in 2015, but that one also has UDMA CRC Error Count, which I didn’t know until now. My new 860 EVO is bought on eBay and was located in Spain. The seller is gone so I can’t get any help from him. I can’t return it through eBay either because time has made it impossible. I should have bought it in Sweden and could have returned it if needed. Can I go on using this or should I buy a new one? Can’t anything be done about this? I have tried to download Samsung’s own app for fixing and maintaining their SSD:s but there is only a Windows-version. In the long run this old computer must be changed to a new one. But to what? Building a Hackintosh will probably be impossible when Apple changes to ARM chip in the coming years. Already now there is big issues with installing Big Sur 11.3 in Mac Pro 5.1. It can’t be done unless some code is fixed. And buy new Mac is impossible if you only want a new desktop, and I am of course thinking of new Mac Pro, also called the grater.
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Summary NOTE: This is a Rumor, not confirmed by Apple. Everything here should be taken with a grain of salt. A new small Mac Pro with Apple Silicon will come out and the redesigned iMac will have colors. The small Mac Pro looks like "3 to 4 Mac Mini stacked on top of each other" and apparentally looks like the PowerMac G4 Cube. The iMac will have a redesign that is similar to an iPad Pro and the Pro Display XDR, and comes with "fun" colors. The IO and it's location is unknown. Quotes My thoughts As with all leaks, this one might not be accurate. To me personally, I think this would be a pretty logical move of Apple. The small Mac Pro was pretty interesting to me, since it would probably be cheaper than the current Mac Pro, and it seems like it's the same design idea as the 2013 Mac Pro. Small and premium looking. With the iMac, I was genuinally suprised that Apple would add colors to the iMac, but I guess it's targeted on the younger people market. Anyways, any Apple news are exiting, since when Apple releases this creature we may finally see other companies finally get high performance ARM processors into powerful laptops and desktops. Sources
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I just need a reliable and great PC that lasts a long time. I'm tired of having issues with my Desktop PC and I spend 2K for that system. There is always something not working correctly and I'm tired of it. If one is spending so much money, it must just work and last a long time. Now I'm just thinking about buying a Mac Pro for this reason. The build of this thing is premium and the support is as well. So this system will likely last for a decade or more. It's even perfectly upgradable. It's very expensive, but if it guarantees that I'll have no headaches because of fixing and finding out issues for a decade, maybe it's even worth it. I spend most of my time in front of the PC. I almost never drive a car or need a car. A PC is the one thing that I always use for many different purposes. It would be a one time investment for the next decade of PC usage. Why not spending extra for a premium. Premium is always better, just because it lasts longer and causes no headaches and problems. And even if something happens, Apple Support is optimized for their own hardware and can fix it all. Having one premium PC that never fails is better then fuzzing about with 2-3 different desktops the next 10 years and having to find out all sort of crap. I'm a tech enthusiast, but I heavily dislike fixing PC things when I just want it to work. Out of the box. It is a lot of money. But the money is worth it if I no longer need to waste time fixing and finding out issues that shouldn't be there. Having everything working perfectly for a decade and saving headaches and time is worth more then the premium price tag. Rather spend one premium price once, then trying out 3-4 different ones until one works. Or maybe I'm just talking bullshit and not seeing it from another perspective. In that case, please feel free to change my mind.
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Hey everyone! Hope you guys are well. I recently picked up a Mac Pro 3,1 to dip my toes into the MacOS universe and was wondering about my options in terms of GPU upgrades. Currently, one of the PCLe 2.0 slots is taken up by an ATI Radeon HD 4870 with 512mb of GDDR5 VRAM (which I think is from a 2009 model). Basically, I'm looking to achieve a minimum of 2GB of VRAM from a new GPU and I want to be able to run the Mac Pro on MacOS Mojave too. But I have no idea which cards are compatible with that version of MacOS and which ones support metal (which is also important apparently, but I don't know what that means). If anyone has any suggestions for a GPU that will work and isn't going to break the bank i.e. something less than £250 / $300 USD that would be amazing!! Thank you. Have a nice day guys :) JWally
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I've seen a lot of news outlets (TechLinked included) that report the new Mac Pro with the Radeon Pro Vega II Duo as having 32GB VRAM per graphics card. However, Apple's website states that each GPU on the card has 32GB of VRAM, meaning 64GB (or 2 x 32GB as Apple states it) per card and a whopping 128GB of VRAM in a fully clapped out cheese grater. I've heard the VRAM quoted as 64GB total in the infamous ~$50k box from numerous fairly reputable sources, which leaves me a little confused.. It seems as though 128GB of VRAM would be a bigger talking point. Also, why has nobody even seemed to notice the upcoming Mac Rack?! -
I have no idea why even apple fans are defending this price, sure this is better than any I-mac before it but for that price for the specs of a fully loaded I-mac are plain idiotic. i was looking on some other forums and people are defending the price saying that "Its PRO meaning its for professionals do these people think professional hardware is cheap!?" I don't get this either because the majority of the hardware is on the open market excluding apples afterburner accelerator card. sure there's 1.5 terabytes of ram but apple is charging $25000 for it... that's $7000 more just for sourcing and installing they make the Radeon Vega II's sound good for the price because they have 32gb of dedicated memory each but that upgrade is $10000 and 4tb of ssd storage for $1400 you can get 4 tb of m.2 ssd storage for like $400-450 depending on if you want samsung or not the only thing that i see thats at a reasonable price is there afterburner card it can supposedly run 3 8k prores raw video streams BUT IF YOU WANT WHEELS... that'll cost you another 400 Please tell me if i'm missing something but i think this is the most un-justified tech pricing i have ever seen in my entire life.
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Before I start this thread, "Get a PC" is unfortunately not an option. I'm using a Mac Pro (late 2013 model running High Sierra) at work specifically so I can share Premiere Pro project files with the rest of the editing group without filepath conflicts, and previously was using a PC. After attempting a combination of VNC and Synergy, it was concluded that I should connect all of my monitors to my Mac and just remote to my Windows desktop for IT tasks. All was well until I tried to use a total of three displays, though I was aware of some strange compatibility requirements concerning the type of connectors with Macs. I first tried using two mini displayport to DVI adapters in thunderbolt bus 1 and 2, and then connected my third display with an HDMI to DVI adapter. No matter what I tried, the last display connected would show the sleep message, go black, and then return to the sleep message, and cycle repeatedly. Switching what monitor was connected where or using an HDMI to HDMI cable (one of my displays has HDMI in addition to VGA and DVI) had no effect. I then found a mini displayport to VGA adapter, which surprisingly allowed all three displays to function flawlessly, but the VGA connected display was hopelessly blurry. I then concluded that the issue resulted from using both the HDMI and thunderbolt ports on the Mac and found a third mini displayport to DVI adapter, which again did not work (however, this one was not an official apple cable like the first two), causing the same "sleep loop" issue. It would seem that there is some issue with using three DVI monitors with a Mac Pro depending on how they are connected. Can someone with more OS X experience explain what cable setup I would need to make this work? Or if it's possible at all? The monitors in question are three old mismatched ones: Dell ST2420L (DVI, VGA) Dell P2412H (HDMI, DVI, VGA) Samsung EX2220 (DVI, VGA) The graphics card is an AMD FirePro D300. What does work: mini dp to DVI mini dp to DVI mini dp to VGA What does not work (only two of the three displays will function): mini dp to DVI mini dp to DVI mini dp to DVI mini dp to DVI mini dp to DVI HDMI to DVI mini dp to DVI mini dp to DVI HDMI to HDMI What'd like to make work: 3 digital connections
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Hi, I recently saw the post about a potential project involving a Mac Pro case. I happen to have one in much better condition that I’d like to donate. All internals have already been removed. Is there anyone who can help me get it to the right people? The only issue is probably shipping, even with no internal components, this beast is still very hefty. So I’m not sure how that would work.
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I just got an old mac pro 3,1 from 2008 and had a spare gtx 750 ti, so I thought it would be a nice upgrade. *running osx 10.11.6 el capitan After installing the cuda and webdrivers I rebooted it and changed out the gc but got no display out. Anyone know what the issue could be?
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Hello! I have been trying to connect my Mac Pro to my two monitors: 1x 27 inch UHD 4K Monitor | LG 27UD59P | LG UK 1x https://www.asus.com/uk/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-SWIFT-PG348Q/ Now, both have only one DisplayPort but they both also have HDMI. I'm sharing these two monitors between the mac and my gaming PC, and the PC is using the DP inputs on both monitors. I intend to connect the Mac Pro to a HDMI port on each monitor and be able to simply switch inputs on them, and voila, I have both computers on the same desk. The cables I'm using are: 1x HDMI - HDMI cable 1x MiniDisplayPort - HDMI cable The issue is, the HDMI-HDMI cable works on either monitor, connected to the Mac Pro's full size HDMI port. But the other cable won't work. On the LG monitor, nothing shows up. On the ASUS one, I see a weird green blotch on top of what should be the desktop, and it blinks on and off. Now the reason I'm thinking about is the refresh rate. Now, the LG page says this monitor is capable of 56Hz ~ 61Hz Vertical refresh rate. The ASUS one has different supported refresh rates depending on the input, so for HDMI it's 24Hz ~ 60Hz. Since the Mac Pro works with BOTH of them if I just use the HDMI cable, I'm assuming the Mac Pro is sending out a signal that's somewhere in between the two monitors' supported refresh rate. Which means the second input, via thunderbolt port should also work. But it's not working. I've tried to connect it to both monitors, both by itself and with the HDMI cable also connected. When I have both cables connected to both monitors, the Mac does detect a second monitor and extends the desktop but I can't see anything on the second screen. This leads me to think it might be the CABLE. I only have one of this cable here so I can't test this. So I need to know if there's something else I could check and test before buying a new cable, AND if I do buy one, what do I look for to make sure I'm buying the correct cable? Thanks in advance!
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So... Just seeing if it would be possible to do this or not. I've got a Mac Pro 1,1, firmware upgraded to 2,1. It has 2x Quad Core X5365's in it at 3Ghz and 32GB of RAM. I had it running 10.11.6 El Capitan which is a pain to even get it up that high but there was no hope in getting it to go to Sierra. So I ditched that route and installed Server 2016 Datacenter x64 on it, got all the Apple drivers installed and then proceeded to try to install Hyper-V, YOU CANT (surprise) because the processors don't support SLAT (Seconded Level Address Translation) so to powershell I went. I got Hyper-V installed, the hypervisor service is actually running, created a virtual machine, went to start it and another error. Back to issues with not having SLAT. Does anyone know if its possible to force it to start a VM anyways??? Server 2012 didn't require SLAT (Yes I know I could install 2012) but if 2012 can run it there has to be a way to enable it on server 2016 as well. BTW, anything above ESX 6.0 won't install because of 32bit EFI, VMware Workstation 13+ require SLAT, I believe player requires it now as well....
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So this is a long shot i know but ive been working on this for a while and this is the only issue ive had except for a bad gpu, my (Mac pro 1,1) running windows 10 64 bit keeps freezing but i have yet to find a pattern in the freezes ive went through the whole build and have cleaned everything of dust and have re thermal pasted the cpu's and the gpu i am completely out of ideas at this point the specs are as follows: Mac Pro 1,1 Windows 10 pro 64-bit 32 Gb fully buffered ecc ddr2 not sure on speed 120 gb SSD For boot drive 2 500gb HDD dual intel xeon X5355 ghz AMD Radeon HD6870 Again i know this is a longshot as its kind of an odd setup but any help is welcome
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I'm having a strange issue with my Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 on my 4,1 Mac Pro; whenever I attach my iPhone to my mac via USB, I can hear the data transferring through my audio interface and thus speakers. I'm aware that this could be a grounding issue, or shared buss issue. But how can I circumvent this? Will adding a seperate PCI-E USB adapter solve these kinds of issues?
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So I've got this 2009 Mac Pro here that I successfully flashed to the 5,1 firmware. It came with the stock 2x E5520 CPUs, and I had a couple X5650s laying around, so I figured what the heck, it's compatible now, I'm going to upgrade it. A guy gave me a ton of E5504s so I figured I'd practice delidding with those. To my chagrin, they are soldered just like the X5650s! Anyway, both X5650s are delidded and cleaned SUCCESSFULLY. HOWEVER, any time I try *both* of them in the Mac Pro at the same time, it does not boot. BOTH X5650s work by themselves in the CPU A slot, but it never works when they're put in both the CPU A and CPU B slot. Neither of the slots are bad, because the original CPUs still work perfectly. Obviously I don't want to run it with only one CPU because why should I? Not to mention the fans spin up full speed when there's only one CPU instead of two. As a side note, when the DIAG button is pressed, the SYS PG and EFI DONE green LEDs stay lit while the GPU OK green LED blinks. This does not indicate a bad GPU (contrary to what one would think). All RAM is tested good. Both CPU sockets are tested good. GPU is good. Northbridge heatsink is on tightly. I spent all day yesterday working on this and now all that delidding work is basically worthless haha. Any ideas?
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I print this model and it works fine specs: g4560 cpu asus h110i plus mb 8gb ddr4 2133 120ssd + 500gb hdd Pico psu + 12v 6A power adapter outside Deepcool htpc 200 cpu fan Jonsbo solar eclipse case fan any idea how put graphics card in it ? (not with pcie x1 riser)
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I dont know why but I'm getting around 40-60 fps on low with it constantly dropping to below 10, I am using a Mac Pro 3.1 using Bootcamp Windows 7. -
I found an cheap offer for 4*16gb DDR3 Ram Sticks and want to know if they would work in an Server(Dual Xeon X5650) The Ram sticks are the: "SK hynix 16gb 2Rx4 PC3 14900R-13-13-E2 " -
So, I am officially crazy... I bought 26 Powermacs (G5) And I modded them ALL They are now ready for ATX and mATX Mainboards… But why 26? Did I mention I was crazy?! (And they were only sold together…) I modded G5 Cases before – They kind of became my passion. This time I wanted everything to be perfect: - Keep as much of the original design as possible - Cut as less as possible - Since it is impossible to find a G5 Case without dents and scratches, I wanted to paint them, freshly. I am done now and it is time to share my experiences: It was a rough 6 months from start to finish. The project kept me busy during all of the winter. I worked every weekend on it, till late. I need to apologize… …to my family for occupying their workshop, guest rooms and garages …to my friends for neglecting them during the last months …to the dogs and the cat for waking them up from their afternoon nap every now and then (because of the metalwork-noise). I hope to be able and show everybody that it was worth it - And that someone out there is appreciating the work, as well. Back me up, guys - Spread the love :-) I believe in Apples high quality and the unique design of Sir Jony Ive My mods include a preinstalled power supply (and even watercooling on some) Countless hours of work and high-quality components & tools were used Of course, you can come and have a look if you are near the South of Germany (or the North of Switzerland). -
I'm looking for a mATX case that is a similar style to the mac pro case (not the trashcan, the one before that) I'm on a budget of around £50 ($75 usd I think) I really like the look of the CiT hero but I've heard that it's really poorly built/designed. Can you recommend better cases that have a similar style? Also, has anyone had a good experience with the CiT hero? I just really like the clean aesthetic I don't mind about colour, I like black cases
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I have a 2008 Mac Pro tower in my room collecting dust and I want to us it but I don’t want the Mac OS at all. Is it possible to just have Windows on a Mac without the Mac OS?
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