Kalinez

Thank you for following up, lets us know how to help solve other folks issues in the future 🙂

Aye @boggy77 & @Tristerin Gear down mode solved the question, and i guess that answers Tristerin's question about Ryzen still having issues with uneven timings.
Now, let's see how stable will they be, and if they are - i will try again to tighten the timins or clock the speed (or both) after i get my new PSU.
 
P.S. Apparantly Gear Down Mode is on AUTO by default which acts as ENABLED usually, so ..... i learn something new every day ^^
 
 Thank you guys, you're great!

Aye @boggy77 & @Tristerin Gear down mode solved the question, and i guess that answers Tristerin's question about Ryzen still having issues with uneven timings.
Now, let's see how stable will they be, and if they are - i will try again to tighten the timins or clock the speed (or both) after i get my new PSU.
 
P.S. Apparantly Gear Down Mode is on AUTO by default which acts as ENABLED usually, so ..... i learn something new every day ^^
 
 Thank you guys, you're great!

to enable odd number timings, you need to disable gear down mode.
however, if it works with C16, keep it at C16, that's even better

Yes definately an upgrade would be nice but if you're okay as that for the moment maybe you could squeeze another month or two to see the presentation for the new AMD CPU's and if they release em swiftly after that ..... the prices for what you're looking for should fall a bit ..... or maybe you could even put few more some 3000 CPU. Up toy buddy and good luck ^^

Finally let me tell you so of I oc the 3800xt I can win the 3900xt (stock) 

Yes the X version have a 200 Mhz more boost, but the XT is this year refresh over last year (X and NON X versions) for which basicly they say that they perfected more the silicon from the last year.
3800XT and 3900XT have same clock speed, but what i see in reviews that you have bigger chance for 3800XT to reach that 4.7Ghz without much of effor (maybe just a little offset - maybe) but 3900XT because of it's high core count is heating a bit more and have trouble reaching it's speed on all cores .....basicly in youtube reviews and comparisment i see it boosting up to 4.5 so ........ if you're not gonna do heavy workload but mostly gaming - go for R7 3800XT or cheaper version 3600X

Wise decision. Have a good one too!

I got mine two months ago. I have a system with 3900X already(which is a potato). But I find it handy to have a second system. The 3600 costs me €159. It's a very good deal.

Guys thanks all for the help of course I will go with zen2 but I will wait a bit to see if the prices drop down and what is going on with zen3 hope you have a nice day! 

yep, but it was an I5 with less cores, no hyperthreding, and a lower TDP, and others little differences like die/ihs thickness.
10th gen run hotter, and this cannot really be considered abnormal. you got 8 cores, hyperthreding, and far higher TDP.
and considering 10th gen is again a skylake refreshing... it's more hard to get power efficency.

To be fair i 84c seems decent for the processor that you have. For what i know currently Intel is on the bit of the hot side on their CPU's so seems fine and as i said before ..... Games are not like synthetic benchmark and a recent processor as yours WONT be loaded at 100% all the time, so don't you worry, if gaming is what you're looking for - your CPU will be most likely between 60-75c
 What cooler do you use, where is mounted and which sides tubes are facing. I would say you should check that video i'm linking now since if your cooling is mounted wrong way maybe ( i say maybe) not all of your cooling liquid is reaching the pump - hence some extra heat on the CPU, not to mention early AIO "retirement".
Propper AIO mount

Yes definately an upgrade would be nice but if you're okay as that for the moment maybe you could squeeze another month or two to see the presentation for the new AMD CPU's and if they release em swiftly after that ..... the prices for what you're looking for should fall a bit ..... or maybe you could even put few more some 3000 CPU. Up toy buddy and good luck ^^

About that i can't give you propper answer since i'm not familiar with your CPU behaviour but you should be able to squeeze more of it just not sure if you need AIO liquid cooler or custom loop.

It also depends on the case airflow and cooler efficency but i would say you're pretty fine. As the man/woman before me said .... run Cinebench R20 maybe in a row 3-4 one after another and if you're around 80-85 don't worry in ideal enviorment you'll be not using all cores full load for more than a minute-two so your temp will constantly bounce between 60-80 especially while gaming.