Quadriplegic

35 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

It's actually a 100 dollar price if you compare the 3600 vs the 5600X.

Yes, yes I know one is an X model and the other one is not, but that does not matter at all.

The X used to stand for "I am a fanboy and want to donate money to AMD for no reason". Now the X stands for "fuck you" because they don't give you the option to buy a non-X model.

Yes, let's compare 2 products from different lineups, that makes complete sense.

One being X model and other being non-x model does matter. 

You said that people in the other thread were "trying to draw conclusions that agree with their preconceived conclusions even though the data is very much incomplete", but you are literally doing the exact same thing. 

Yes, marketing like this is pretty much a cancer. Sadly, selling out for a fancy TV and a graphics card (hey, at least it's better than selling out just for an early access to a non-flagship card) is completely accepted by PC community.

17 hours ago, Quinnell said:

What makes you say that?\

Because there is no space for it in the product stack. 

The gap between 3080 and 3090 is 7-10%. It can't be faster than 3080 without totally killing off 3090. Also, while 3090 is a good workstation card, it's not a great one. So you can't really use productivity as an outlier. And if 20GB 3080 is real after all, releasing 12GB version of 3090 makes no sense either.

Jesus, check Gamers Nexus review. Tehc Jesus teared Nvidia whole bunch of new holes.

I think it is safe to say that there won't be 3080 Ti, despite what some people were suggesting. I guess the 20 GB version of 3080 won't be any faster either.

Tho Nvidia will probably release card that is even faster than 3090 in a year or so.

8 minutes ago, freeagent said:

No it’s not

It's pretty much is. It doesn't perform that well, but you won't find many tower coolers that have fans with 300 RPM starting point.

Ninja 5 is the ultimate silent air cooler. Sadly, performance does suffer a bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2Zis8RjcX8

A12x25 are definitely the best fans, but Arctic P12s are so damn close you probably shouldn't buy Noctuas.

3 hours ago, Lord Bloobus said:

Founders because it's actually the list price and the cooler is overbuilt as is, I don't need to pay someone else $50-100 to put their name and coolers on it when the base is finally better than custom. Also have you SEEN the EVGA one?! OMFG, wtf were they thinking.

Well, we don't know that just yet. It is possible that FE will run hotter and louder, just like usual.

9 hours ago, 777GE90 said:

How does the performance compare to the Noctua?

About on par with the D15S/U12A

Flip a coin between Fuma 2 and Cryorig R1 Universal.

19 hours ago, narrdarr said:

This is a great pick of the price and preforms well. Tho maybe a downgrade in performance to an 240 aio. 

Yeah, it's a downgrade compared to 240 AIO, but it is not that expensive, which seems to be important for the OP

Even the shittiest Chinesium PSUs should have 8+6 pin power connector for the graphics card. So yeah, should be fine to use it.

5 minutes ago, AncientPistol said:

So I should not do anything after shutting down the PC from windows? I didn't know that or heard that before.

 

But if I don't turn it off from the back then there is an LED in the GPU that stays lit and I thought its best that there is no power going to the PC when its not in use.

Yes, just shut it down from the Windows. You can check BIOS settings if there is an option to turn off the lights.

 

4 minutes ago, AncientPistol said:

When I turn off the PC, I switch it off from the back of the PSU, but not from the wall.

Congratulations, you have killed your PSU. You are not supposed to turn off the PSU switch at the back constantly.

3 minutes ago, Yoshi Moshi said:

No I have a 1440p monitor 144 Hz

Then go with the RTX 3080. 

P.S. 2k monitor means monitor with roughly 2000 horizontal pixels, 16:9 ratio 1080p monitor has 1920 horizontal pixels, thus it's an actual 2k monitor. Marketing dumbasses were looking for a fancy way of marketing 1440p monitors and they came up with name "2k" that has literally no meaning.

1. Why would you pair a RTX 3080 or 3090 with 1080p monitor?
2. Monitor will not limit your FPS unless you choose to do so via settings (i.e. VSync).

Typical Samsung 16GB? Hmm

2 minutes ago, Den-Fi said:

I suppose, but I custom loop everything, so that's not a temp I will ever see.

inb4 stock cooler is literally welded in place, which means no water blocks for FE cards

But damn, that's a beautiful card.

Scythe Mugen 5 ARGB?

23 minutes ago, Falkentyne said:

How exactly are you supposed to do that?

Removing tape that is attaching the backplate to the motherboard would require removing the backplate again, which means removing the block.

Or did you create some magical hocus pocus and break the laws of physics in the process?

Why exactly would you need to remove backplate in order to remove tape that holds backplate to the back side of the motherboard?

1 hour ago, LogicalDrm said:

Please do. Always better to test something yourself if there's no tests made, or what is made has conflicting info. 

Or when you dismiss what everyone says and act stubborn. Totally not aimed at OP

17 hours ago, techrecorder said:

I've chosen these 2 AIO's specifically since they would fit very nicely in the build, performance on both of these aren't very different to those of the Liquid Freezer II 280mm. And generally I trust Corsair & NZXT more especially regarding warranty.

Why would you trust two rebranders instead of company who actually does negineering on their products? Basically, both Corsair and NZXT are same shit with same mediocre fans and equally mediocre pumps. Difference would be bigger with higher power draw, but if you plan on just gaming, then either is fine.

14 hours ago, Calranthe said:

Is the U12A really as good on a 3950x as the D15?

No.

14 hours ago, Calranthe said:

Does the D15 overhang the primary PCIE slot on the x570 MSI Tomahawk  

No, it shouldn't. 

14 hours ago, Calranthe said:

Which one would you pick and why? or Advise me something different :).

D15> U12A=DRP4. Tho Fuma 2 performs about the same as U12A or DRP4, doesn't block any RAM or PCIe slots and doesn't look like someone's cat vomited all over their PC. Not to mention it is usually cheaper and just as quiet as both. I'd also look for other coolers, such as R1 Universal/Ultimate.

Arctic F120/P120 PWM PST, you can daisy chain up to 5 fans and run them off one header. 

 If you want something more spicy,  Bionix version fans are available (higher upper RPM limit, , but they are more expensive and you can't buy them in value packs.