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Thanks everyone. I would probably want to wait for a Zen 5 X3D chip, so that's a bit far in the future. Saving 160 dollars on a 7600X but having to spend 450 later (with uncertain recoup when selling) doesn't make sense either. In my local market, I can't count on prices going down much after the initial hype of a product has died down (sometimes prices go up as supply dries out). Seems like both 5800X3D and 7800X3D are valid options for a true upgrade. I'll keep that in mind!

Just updated my signature, but the main rig is Intel i7 8086K EVGA Z370 Micro 16GB of Samsung B-die Sapphire Pulse RX 7800XT Noctua cooler and case fans Corsair RM750x v2 Fractal Meshify C Edit: And the second rig is: R5 3600 MSI B450i Gaming Plus 16GB of Samsung B-die MSI GTX 1080ti Gaming X Cooler Master V650 Fractal Meshify C

My main build is finally struggling, after almost 6 years of use. I upgraded my 1080ti to a 7800 XT, but I'm still at 40-50 FPS in the city of BG3. It's playable, but not ideal. I usually play AoE2, but I plan on starting Cyberpunk 2077 some time this year. As for productivity, I do light video editing in Resolve and medium-to-heavy audio work in Reaper. Since the rumors started last year, my intention has been to put a 5700X3D or 5800X3D in my B450 build and use that as my main. ...but the prices in my country are disappointing. 5700X3D is (converted to USD) 305, the 5800X3D is 340. Meanwhile the 7800X3D is 435. For the equivalent of 800, I could get a serviceable B650 board, decent DDR5 and what is currently the best gaming CPU on the market. As far as I can see, any of these will give me roughly twice the performance in BG3 and CP2077. I can justify the cost of the platform upgrade if I'd be set for another 5 years or so. But is it worth it? Especially when Zen 5 seems only months away?

All right. Thanks! Do you know for how long this has been? Has it been addressed anywhere?

I'm about to sell my Ryzen build, just over a year old now. I have noticed my computer won't start certain games (only LA Noire that I can remember). I know this was a problem in the early days of Zen 2, but it hasn't really bothered me until now. Can't sell it like it is. But the MSI website doesn't have any downloads for BIOS or utility or drivers or anything? The page is just _blank_ . Check it: www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450I-GAMING-PLUS-AC Is this a locality problem or are the downloads gone all over the world? I'm in Scandinavia btw.

A similar thing happened to me when old thermal paste lost contact with the heat sink on an Rx570. Slightly higher than normal idle temps, rushing up to 95c (shutoff temp for Polaris) within 5 seconds of load. Cleaning and repasting fixed the issue completely. EDIT: I'm only saying this because you haven't expressively stated that you cleaned and repasted the card after disassembly.

Ohhhhhh, are the DIMMs in the correct spot? One set of slots usually give better OC headroom than the other due to slightly shorter traces.

Good Samsung B-die should do 3600CL16 and should react very well to raised Vdimm, up to 2.0V (not necessarily safe for daily). Also they react somewhat badly to high temps.

Could be a bad BIOS revision not actually raising Vdimm? Possible RMA, either MB or CPU. Why not try lowering frequency and tighter timings? 3200CL14 works pretty sweet with my 3600. Does that work?

Also, what sort of dies are on these chips? Should be safe up to 1.5, but not all chips react well to raised Vdimm

What's your Vdimm?

You turned off the focus assistant - which is the W10 tool that stops apps form pushing notifications. Experiment with the two other options. If neither helps, kill Chrome.

Wait, is it actually performing as expected now? I doubt iTunes was the real culprit, but anyways I'm happy that it's fixed.

Yeah, I don't really know. How are the thermals on that laptop? BTW, welcome to the forums! Also, remember to quote or @ anyone you're responding to, otherwise they won't get a notification.

Literally exactly 30 fps? Could the screen be stuck at 30Hz? What does Nvidia Control panel identify the panel as?

Wattage-wise it's probably overkill, and it has decent quality. ...but depending on your location, you should be able to get better alternatives for around the same price. EDIT: RGB memory is not a good priority. For Ryzen, go Samsung B-die or go home (3200MHz CL14 is always B-die, and not much more expensive than "normal" RAM).

A gray label VS450W should be fine, although there are likely significantly better units for not much more money depending on prices/availability where you live. Orange label VS should be avoided.

They might be 4Gb (512MB) modules. My 570 has 8 of those.

The cooler is better and a bit bigger on the Nitro +, but the Pulse is sufficient in most cases (pun intended). The VRM is also a bit different but for air cooling, either would be more than sufficient.Stock frequency is likely also a bit higher on the Nitro+. Certain vendors bin their chips (MSI had the same PCB for certain Armor and GamingX 10-series models and put the better cooler on the higher clocking chips), but I haven't seen anything that suggests that Sapphire does this. You might still achieve a higher max frequency (both OC and stock) with the Nitro+ because of voltage-frequency and power limit settings on the Nitro+, but the actual differences should be minimal. These things _can_ also be customized with a BIOS mod, but you really shouldn't do that unless you have Dual BIOS on your card (if your custom BIOS doesn't work, you can switch to the other BIOS, if BIOS fails on a single BIOS card the card is bricked until you can reload a working BIOS). This is the only truly useful advantage of the nitro+ over the Pulse; the dual BIOS capabilities. But... While Dual BIOS capabilities are cool, most of us will only ever touch the frequency slider or possibly the power limit slider... Which are both available through OC software like MSI Afterburner, or Radeon settings. Radeon settings even have voltage-frequency settings available, with no BIOS modding required. TLDR; Either are fine if your airflow is fine and you don't care about BIOS modding and absolute max OC, Pulse is fine. It's a question of // Æ S T H E T I C S // , and if your case/room/country is hot, cooling capabilites.

Armor has terrible cooling, most other non-blower RX cards will be better. Sapphire for example have good coolers.

If you have a sound card with dedicated digital I/O, you can send audio from Spotify to those outputs, then plug the outputs right back into the input and use a DAW to record the audio from that digital input. That would give you virtually no degradation of sound quality.

I'm not qualified for this, but it would be easier for others to help if you stated what your current settings are, what your current average FPS is, and what hardware you use.

Not directly. You can however do what people used to do back in the radio-and-cassette days - record the output of Spotify. However, Spotify will recognize software rerouters and not play audio through them. You can use the browser version to circumvent this but the bitrate is absolute terrible. So: Yes, you can. No, I wouldn't recommend it, because 1) the logistics and sound quality sucks, and 2) it's not quite legal.

What are you putting inside of it?

Is that one stick of 8GB or two sticks of 4GB? Ryzen really doesn't sit well with single channel memory. If you get another stick for dual channel memory operation, things will likely get a bit better. Also HDD is not a great idea if you want a fast and responsive system.