xsimplyjosh

So I've bought a 7700k a few months back, maybe like 6 months? It was on a great offer which put it on same price point [it was a 1-2 day offer thing and i snaged it] as a 7700 non K version Realized I was never overclocking that much as I felt even stock speeds were damn fast already I'm just a bit skeptical. Not saying it's a bad chip by all means or obsolete [Coffee Lake Out now] Could someone possibly shade some light am I really missing out that much more by not boosting it to 4.9-5.0GHz at 1.3-1.4V and just using the stock/automatic clocks of a 7700K [4.2GHz up to turbo 4.5GHz] Since I'm primarily gaming at 1440p on a 165Hz monitor which is a huge step up for me over 1080p gaming, do you think by not putting in that overclock on the CPU would I be bottlenecking myself, or is the GPU [1080Ti Strix OC] just still the bottleneck as usual at 1440p. Because for me overclocking the GPU is piss easy since the Strix has a very good profile and reputation for cooling. But technically more concern with CPU for gaming wise and overall minor usage. Some questions I'd like to ask in simpler terms: 1) Would 1440p technically still place more bottleneck on the Graphics rather than the CPU since the 1080Ti doesn't always power the Graphics exactly at 165Hz for all games (im fine with 100-140Hz on a single card it's silky smooth for me). Whereas it would be an issue on the 1080p gaming side since 1080p is piss easy to render the graphics. 2) Has anyone felt like they didn't miss out on overclocking their cpu long term and using the stock speeds (i felt it was somewhat super fast for my needs already despite the fact the Potenital to overclock IS THERE)... that even I tried overclocking my chip to 5GHz and i don't really see much improvement? Is this wrong statement could someone shed some light on what I should really test to see the benefits of an extra 400-500MHz over say running stock speeds. I hope I sorta have worded the issue/points/etc above clearly... it just kinda struck me after awhile. No I'm not selling the chip soon by all means I'm just curious to see the ideas that float around regarding overall performance in games at 1440p and daily usage [some basic productivity tasks, nothing as extreme as video rendering i dont do that, mostly photographs is my main line of work]

I hv the strix z270h and wished i got the z270f now ? but eh depends on your budget. Id say asus strix boards are freaking reliable performance and asthetics wise. If u do want wifi integration in mobo w/o any usb adapters then z270e is also a nice pick. The only downside for me is the z270h doesnt have a dedicated IO shroud over the F version. Bht thats about it. All the board abv i quoted are standard atx z270 chpset

I myself got the PG279Q . Did get it on a discount though because normal rrp is relatively high* backlight bleed issue is super minor hardly noticable . the stand is nice. Simple and heavy/sturdy obviously there r other two choices (acer predator and viewsonic’s variant) but what sold me was the very clean design (viewsonic was still a bit on the big side in terms of bezels and i hate the green accents despite nvidia; if it came with red accents i may hv gotten that) asus warranty is about 3 years if i remember correctly.

Thats an amazing build probably trumps mine in pure asthetics ? on a sidenote try a driver reset or full reboot. I had something similar before when configuring my pc up and a full reboot with clean driver install did th trick

Nah im in same boat as u pascal is seriously voltage limited. I only got a 750w since it was 10$ more than 650w but more headroom. you pretty much hv a same setup as me put it that way. My card is stable at 2063mhz but wont go higher so i tend to settle approx 2038/2050mhz instead to be safer but still get relatively animous performance

The ryzen X versions normally dont have cooler so you need to factor in a bit extra if u go that route. But that being said since all ryzen processors are unlocked i recommend personally going non X models 1600 1700 etc for that sole reason as they hv a cooler imo

Depends... if money is no issue then water cooling is rhe way to go ie founders 1080ti and custom block if you want ultimate silence one way or another. It will cost but it should last that much longer. i personally picked the strix due to asthetical reasons and slightly improved cooling performance (65-68*c on stock fan speed & oc mode via asus gpu tweak 2)

Id say 550-650w for safety... 450w is cutting close corners way too much imo.

specs dont really mean much tbh especially if you overclock. Only would matter if u leave it stock as is and apply no tweaks* that being said any graphic card will fit fine, only issue may be rgb sync compatibility but im sure you can download programs simply to mitigate part of the issue thereof

Cuda core is pretty much compute unit in terms of gpu Put it simply. the more the better. But also have to factor in more than just cores alone, clock speed mem speed all come into play too one way or another.

If you tend to play 4k at a modest 60fps max then either system will work well since its gpu bound at that region gaming wise the only time i think coffee lake > ryzen is for games where high fps matter imo thats just how i see it. Where ryzen would cap around 100hz due to clock limitations due to the architecture the coffee lake at say 5ghz is capable of exploting the say extra 40-60fps that ryzen isnt able to manhandle as how i see it is going productivity wise i really cant speak much since i spend majority of time gaming over actual work ina 3:1 ratio. So i only spoke on a “gaming perspective”

Imean i dont see them going beyond 8 core mainstream so quickly for now since it is the jump so they could jus work on getting the clock speed up for now and still be in a relatively powerful position.

I would personally hold onto it. You should be fine. Even i dont overclock my 7700k all the time lol (i did get the 7700k at offer price brand new pre coffee which is why i hv it. 380aud at may 2017) sometimes i let it run on stock speeds and i find that quite fast enough. the only time ill overclock it is if I’m doing something productive since i hardly notice the difference in gaming esp at 1440p 144+hz

I would persoanlly mount the duo aio on the top to be honest . Exhaust the hot air out quickly. I never saw the point of mounting in the front it didnt seem logical to push in hot air back into the case

Yea im hoping ryzen can up the clocks now to get it a more attractive option. Even at 4.5ghz should be plenty for most at an oc level with that many cores. heck sometimes i run my 7700k at stock/turbo speeds only and seem to be fine with nil issues. I do the oc occasionally but not on a 24/7 basis. Only when i feel it asks for it like productive tasks, barely notice much diff in gaming stock or oc since 1440p is quite intense for a middleground res

If you need onboard wifi with dual band w.o the need of usb adapter then the z370e looks interesting. If not then z370f is just as nice if you dont intend to put in m.2 nvme u could possibly go with z370h strix but then again... only reason im saying that is because the only advantage i see both z370e n f over the z370h version is the integrated heatsink built in near the chipset that the z370H lacks if temperatures do become an issue later on

If its amilestone jump at same pricing then maybe yes worth the instant jump but then with cpu getting near the thin end of nm scale we all want to ask the question how much more can it go up by. i know intel is kinda dogging it by not going mainstream 8core but i guess it still wanna retain the clocking king

Of course. If you know what you are going to do then you will have a solid idea of what your system will be like. mwhere did i say everyone must build a system for 7-8 years duration? I said mine only.

Not that im trying to be harsh but imo doesnt make sense to change quickly... its not like the performance jump is +100% or smt then maybe

If you are doing that then somethings really wrong already... tell me what programs are you even using? Are u making video content at least? Even my system will last a good 7-8 years at least before i really have to change anything if at most. Ive done it before with a crappy 1k aud system for at least 6 years and thats pretty good. because as far as i know it unless you are a content creator where you are cashing in tons of money comments like this irks me because i dont see the point really if you want to be on a budget u dont simply keep upgrading every year or two. Not that my i5 3550 is obsolete or busted or damaged after 6 years of use i still run it for my parents as a media station.

The truth is you dont upgrade your freaking processor every year or two its not wise financially in the long run. These stuff are made to last long like at least a solid 5 years. Manage to last with a i5 3550 for 6 years or less before i decided to go with a 7700k. So idk why people are thinking about this “support”.

Im on a 1080ti and 7700k on 750w. Im assuming 8700k power usage is almost on par or equal to 7700k i run approx a conservative 4.8ghz at 1.3v i guess he can add 100w extra its like only 10$ Which is peanuts ? well at least thats the diff for me between a 650 n 750w here if he takes a 1080 then a 650w shud suffice 1080ti = 750w***

I personally would say z370-e or z370-f are amazing if you consider a m.2 nvme for a OS/program drive... otherwise take z370-h. imo to me those are the only selling points the F and E have from what i see [H lacks the heatsink included for m.2 drives]

1500$ budget is rather decent... assuming he doesn't go full out on RGB components but remain more ill towards stock solid components he can get plenty for his budget. RGB is pretty much extra dollar for bling. My current setup below was about 1.7k usd at May 2017 so it's definitely doable [minus peripherals]. It has gone up to about 1.88k USD due to adding a 512GB 960 Pro recently to the lineup. if i was to cough up a quick lineup it'd be [i'm gonna quote mostly asus parts as i have good experiences with them] asus : i7 8700 [don't think he will need the K version i have not seen much improvement with my 7700k overclocking. tbh i wished i got the non K version] but if budget allows it go for the K version ez even running stock speeds should suffice [well im doing that most of the time haha, only put it on 5GHz if i need it crucially]. 650w psu 80+ gold 240mm aio [Cooler master, cryorig or corsair h100iv2] GTX 1080 or 1080Ti. [depends on other parts pricing] 16gb 3000MHz duo stick ram. z370-e [if he needs integrated duo band wireless] or z370-f [if he dosnt need wireless integration but run a separate USB wirelesss adapter] would be sweet as if he invested into a m.2 nvme 960 Evo due to the integrated heatsink for the m.2 drive. Oherwise I'd say a z370-h would be a better value if he needs to save but get most functions.

If you are primarily using adobe for content creation, intel is personally the way to go... I know it myself as I do lightroom, photoshop and a bit of premiere pro. Tho obviously the 8700k is out and better than my current 7700k, i'm not entirely desperate. Are you intending to play high fps 1080p gaming or just standard 60fps? With streaming you'll most likely be limited to 60fps max, one way or another since video output max Hz is 60. For my case I'm doing 1440p at 144-165Hz gaming, so primarily still GPU bound even with a 7700k... But your mileage may vary based on this answer. If you want high fps gaming without much bottlenecking the intel lineup is predominantly better due to higher clock speeds. But if you favor more content creation with casual gaming, maybe I Would suggest ryzen due to the extra core/threads if you are getting the R7 series. That being said I'm still trying to study the difference between both chips, it seems intel has the edge and the price hike may be justifiable to some extent...