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it was rumored at 250 on fud/wccf need the articles? of course we are talking about the rumors and no they are being typical like any business charge as much as they can so its performance is slightly better than vega64 which is already 400?

Wasn't it 1080 performance for 250 Not 400

i have powerplay I like it just wish there was a huge version but I just put it under my huge glorious stitched mouse pad and used the extra mousepad to level everything out still charges through it

arent they already doing the same thing by releasing newer cards at the right price segments?

it showed gamers were willing to pay more though

many rumors saying 2020 for intels first gpu many devs in gaming industry have wanted rt for decades, considering reflections/lighting are much work all companies will have smaller cards too and all of them have chiplet like diagrams/designs/connections/patients, they need to work on latency

nvidia might have timed rt cards perfectly to one up intels version(guess larrabee was going to do real time rt) which brings up intel using foveros and emib that kinda reminds me of those 3dfx cards I dreamt of when I was younger wondering if thats why amd is just copying and pasting to buy time to have something similar to that using IF sry random collective thoughts multitasking at work lol

wasnt it rumors of gtx 1080 for 250, 2070 is close enough those people that bought 1080s back on release made out like bandits

lol necro bump no it doesnt brands are still going to use them which they are until they cant buy them

not to mention the move of everything going higher res like 4k where cpu doesnt really matter all that much https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i9_9900K/19.html look at those numbers on 4k lol

isnt this powerful news for amd also? considering cray and amd partnership

but thats my point, are they getting more chips per wafer now? we use to get a bigger piece of the silicon pie for the price their profits per wafer has increased significantly considering their consistent markup but we consumers/mainstream in return really only got few hundred mhz if that and some power savings intel has shown its 14nm broadwell to coffeelake refresh was able to give frequency, ipc/isa improvements, cores(thx amd but wait its still a chiplet design), other features, etc not saying we should say lets stay but hopefully amd ends this nonsense with 7nm edited multitasking at work

nevermind i'm just dumb

broadwell to coffeelake clocks on 4 core 8 threads and even all of coffeelake refresh lineup with more cores not to mention isa/ipc logic? facts? of course it helps us but at what cost? are they getting more chips per wafer on node shrink? is that ever been passed on to us on any node shrink

westmere had 10 core https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/53580/intel-xeon-processor-e7-8870-30m-cache-2-40-ghz-6-40-gt-s-intel-qpi.html it also has been shown by intel a mature node can do those same things from broadwell to coffelake refresh single thread, cores, and frequency barely such a hurry to keep up with moores law that the consumers are trading few hundred mhz for these chip maker/designers to bank on

2700k 3.9 boost with stock cooling under 50 degrees (enthusiast headroom 5 ghz) 7700k 4.5 boost with stock cooling under 50 degrees lol good luck (enthusiast headroom 5.1) Oh wait they are pushing them farther to their limit with smaller headroom for overclocks 9900k 5.0 boost with stock cooling oh wait you cant use stock cooling unless you want constant throttling you know we had 10 cores on 32nm and 18 on 22nm right wasnt offered to consumers because it didnt evolve to needing them yet and intel milking of course til amd came in with ryzen with chiplet design that is more efficient does a chip designer/maker get more chips per wafer with a smaller node? so we consumers are getting less of the silicon pie at the cost of a few hundred mhz and thx to amd more cores now 2700x vs 2600k point? evolving forward so it should happen better isa/ipc we had 32nm doing 5ghz with sandy bridge overclocked and stock pile driver too again you know we had 10 cores on 32nm and 18 on 22nm right

broadwell to coffeelake refresh has shown that more mghz , more cores, and single threaded can be had pretty much on same node lol

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where are you getting a full ghz? amd is responsible for more cores like i said they get more we get less look at it in silicon size we are getting less of the wafer by far they are getting more per wafer prices didnt change really actually been up cpus/ram/gpus 32nm we had bigger chunk of the wafer 5ghz was achievable for enthusiasts and barely still is lol amd isnt hitting 5ghz yet and intel is doing more cores because of AMD

temps were at 75-80 on stock 2600k hit 4.9 with mid sixties on d14 fyi I had few sandy bridge cpus it was easy and there is many articles/threads/reviews/etc on them hitting 5ghz too yes i know node shrinks help but how to the consumer? really how? they get more and consumers get same price pretty much even with new nodes maybe few hundred mhz if that cores would be same thing if amd didnt start this core wars 2 tweaks to isa get advancements too plus many others

core count has always been around just premium-ed til amd started core wars 2 which they are winning this time remember 22nm had stock of 4ghz on dc and 4.4 on boost and sandy bridge 32nm was quite easy to get 4.5 using STOCK cooler acted like 7700k

what has nodes really done for consumers since 32 nm besides lower the cost or energy at times?

they might have complete edge with this too if ryzen 3000 clocks just as high they could have both single and multi especially with the newer ipc improvements too more cores of course and amd does seem to have just as good if not better smt, which showing its more secure for now also

So you saying that they can fix it on 2way but not 4 way?

amd is pushing for intel to use all their shit intel had 4 way on knights landing