@CircleTech at least be reasonable with your apple bashing. iphones are legendary for not throttling, ipad's too. if they put those cpu's in a chassis that's a lot bigger i really doubt it would throttle. 

They are most likely going to go fan less. By the time Macbook pros come around, they will have a decent GPUs. keep in mind, its a first gen products, keep your expectations in check. 

I doubt they will go Fanless. The MBA design seems perfect for a CPU swap. It's not a good example, but I doubt Apple will do away with fans altogether. ARM is efficient, but its also scale-able. 

@Ashley xD i am assuming you are  not talking about the SE then, it has legendary throttling issue especially on the GPU. even iphone 6s, 7 plus, X heats up when doing something intensive for long. ARM cpus are designed for shorter bursts, so they might "throttle" a bit since more sustained workload might bring them closer to base clock. 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15745/the-iphone-se-2020-quick-review-reinvigorated-classic/3

@CircleTech or use some also useless cooling design like in the macbook air, also rumored the arm chips will have TDP around the same wattage as the intel chips.

@nerdslayer1 we're not talking about a device heating up, of course it will. we're tlaking about it heating up enough to slow down, and if we're tlaking phones that happens far more on android than iphone. 

@Ashley xD iphone 6s on IOS 11 did hit up enough to slow down, especially after recording 4k video for 2 minute. SE will also be impacted when doing 4k 60 fps recording for longer period of time, keep in mind it is aimed at those kinds of people. 

So? how did android come into the conversation? "android bashing"  Phones like Red magic has fans to negate that, fold had a massive surface to dissipate heat. 

I just wanted to talk about dGPUs. Why did this turn into an iPhone 6s recoding 4K@60 for 2 min makes it hot

@nerdslayer1 that's most likely due to the camera heating up, not the cpu. LTT extensively benchmarked the 6s when it released with many long time benchmarks and noted no throttling. 

i wanted to clarify, how powerful SOC in a tiny body will cause issues. A13 is not some cheap smartphone SOC, it's really impressive. scaled up, laptops will generate a lot of heat. 

Just to chime in about the 6s though...that thing only had 2GB of RAM. So there's a lot of memory swapping and writing be done for extended recording sessions. 

@nerdslayer1 the A13 already competes with some macbooks, the A12Z does for sure. there is no need to scale up. a macbook with the same cpu as the ipad pro will be very fast. 

@Ashley xD in theory, but the 12Z on the 11 inch pro 2020  is better, especially in sustained workload.  GPU wise, its in another league. yes, they will need to scale up to run proper mac OS, i padOS is still at its infancy.  luma fusion is very dumb due to its limitation, testing fortnite, it ran at 70 fps, dropped down to 30 at times overall, so apple needs to bring out something that can actually compete with its intel counterparts. 

a full desktop OS that will run apps like FCX and Xcode needs a lot more power, so much faster chips are needed. 

at the end of the day, GPU is what apple will focus on, CPU wise, they can just add more cores but GPU is a whole other game.