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Becausse with Product X (Ryzen 1700) you can just overclock it to 4ghz or however high you can get it and call it a day while still having your warranty in tact But with Product Y (7700k) your warranty is voided just by overclocking their unlocked CPU, then if you don't want terrible thermal performance, you need to buy a delidder ($20-$30), liquid metal ($10), knowledge on how to delid and relid or seat in the socket wihtout shifting the cpu. Then you have a faster processor just for gaming. At which point, it doesn't make much sense unless you know how to do all of the above and are willing to do so from the start. For non-enthusiasts and just gamers in general, the 7700k is pretty much equivalent in buying power to the 1700 with a small performance hit, but for less money. It's basically a trade off between the two processors, where one is bought over the other in the above scenario.

And do you hold this view to your phone's keyboard as well as autocorrect? Do you disable those on your phone as well? so.....

"4k", I don't even understand how they can market these things as 4k gaming and get away with it. I don't think a single PS4 game plays at 4k, but rather just uses reprojection and tiled rendering, and even then the resolution doesn't hit 4k but somewhere slightly below it. Usually 1440p or inbetweent 1440p and 4k Interested to see how Scorpio goes but I expect the result to stay the same, Xbox just doesn't have a reason for anyone to buy it anymore? What exciting exclusives are there over Ps4? Practically none outside Gears, Halo, and Forza which all recently have not done very well aside from Halo 5's multiplayer. I've been thinking about heading back to my sony roots for a while (had a ps1, and ps2 fat/slim) but again, it would only be for the exclusives. And right now I'm waiting to see if sony makes a move like Microsoft to push for game everywhere for PC as well. The only thing that turns me off from buying a console is having to pay fucking $10 a month to actually play the damn games because they have bullshit drm checks and can't run without being online. I'm interested to see where Scorpio goes, but things don't look good for Microsoft int erms of consoles not because of hardware, but because of pull to buying an xbox over a ps4

I agree with you, competent users will get annoyed because it's another obstacle in place to use what should be seemingly basic features of windows. The problem here is that they won't move away from windows since it's the only real open platform and universally supported, while also being as simple to use as anything. If they do move, they'll probably head to Linux which is an even smaller subset of competent users. Basically, the way I see it, Microsoft hedged their bets and estimated how many people they'd lose from the userbase of windows with these changes while making it more accessible for the idiot user/masses and they determined the loss would be miniscule, otherwise, they wouldn't have done it.

You could argue pretty much any autocorrect/learning keyboard is a keylogger then. I think the whole hullabaloo surrounding the "privacy concerns" for Windows 10 are ridiculous. Your phones have "keyloggers", track your location, and use advertising across devices already as do desktop browsers. First everyone criticized them for being underhanded with the privacy settings which was valid. Now that they've come out and laid everything out and even made the dumb users aware of what they were tracking. Now it's a conspiracy and Microsoft is obviously lying, it never ends does it. Can't possibly say Microsoft did something good, nooo, Microsoft is evil and trying to track all of us, even though they do much less than modern day smartphones...I'm honestly so done with the ignorant Microsoft hate train, it screams of "I don't understand anything about data security and the fact that we carry around mobile gps', with all our personal and sensitive data, cameras, and microphones", oh but Autocorrect and advertising? Microsoft is literally Hitler Edit: Now does this mean I'm ok with spying? Fuck no, but Microsoft is doing leagues less than what is being done on the smartphone side of things, even though they could well go full throttle spy mode yet they haven't

See, the people who game for days straight then drop dead ARE mentally ill, but it's just a different outlet for their mental illness, not a whole different disorder. This is retarded, coming from someone who has family members and friends working in various medical fields from cardiology to neurology to psychiatry, they all laughed when I showed them the article. First at Breitbart (Even my the neurologist who is very conservative) Then at the "claim" that there can possibly be a gaming "disorder"

Well at least they responded to the guys claims instead of just ignoring them which they could have done. But still, really, 40 zero day vunerabilities and nobody in netsec caught this?

Ok, I laughed because it's probably where they also found their marketing department. Probably sent some boxtops into kellog for "professional marketeers"

I enjoy how ridiculous those Premiere benchmarks are considering they didn't give them all a solid clock to hold for the entire test nor did they mention what they ran at during the entirety of the benchmark other than, yeah, here's the turbo range, figure it out, but here's a solid clock for Ryzen. I'll take the other 20 reputable benchmarks from places like guru3d, gamernexus, anandtech, and pcper over pugetsystems, a company who I didn't even know still existed and is not a professional reviewer, clearly, from how they conduct their benchmarks. The 1800x and 1700x consistently beats the 6900k in single thread benchmarks in Cinebench R15 as well as multi-thread, however that is just one benchmark. On average in rendering tests, the 1800x performs as follows: -3% Corona Photorealism 1.3 -10% Blender 2.78 -5% Luxmark C++ -27% Luxmark OpenCl +11% POV Ray 3.7 +4% Cinebench R15 Singlethread +10% Cinebench R15 Multithread All percentages were done comparing the 1800x at stock to the 6900k at stock using Anandtechs rendering benchmark scores. So if an average of 10% loss in performance in some rendering tests is of concern to you and you need to spend another $520 for 10% more performance for your render, then well, you be you. If you are not insane however like @zMeul, and are an actual consumer looking for an amazing processor for the price for rendering, then this processor is for you! In addition, if you are playing at 1440p or above in a majority of games, you should expect parity with other processors including the 6900k. However, if you are gaming at 1080p and below, well I would say that you should hold off for a bit until the Ryzen platform matures a bit, if you seriously need a CPU like immediately because you can't wait any longer to make that sweet build, then I would recommend you go for the 7700k which overclocks like a beast or alternatively, if you wanted a good Quad core with no hyperthreading, I personally recommend the 7600k over the 6600k which is what I am running because Kaby Lake seems to overclock much better than the latter. Now if you are buying second hand, you could go for a 6600k/6700k or you can take it a step higher if you can find a good 5820k those overclock pretty easily and the extra 2 cores are great for more cpu intensive games like GTA V or The Division. Edit: Benchmark links that were used Anandtech: http://www.anandtech.com/show/11170/the-amd-zen-and-ryzen-7-review-a-deep-dive-on-1800x-1700x-and-1700/18 Guru3d (Page 16 on): http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_7_1800x_processor_review,16.html

If you actually read the chart they are using game release performance, which is pre-performance fixing patches for most of the games excluding ashes of the singularity. How much of the performance increase was actually Nvidias new driver rather than the actual patches being pushed through these games? If they had tested current patches before and after Nvidia drivers then we'd be talking. But this? It's nothing until I see someone test before and after with the drivers on these games

Wait really? I was under the impression that was just C-states and not the mobo OC program. Mobo oc, for my asus board at least is strictly OC only, it doesn't scale the OC to the workload being done, I don't even think something like that exists, it' would just be C-states downclocking when workload is not intense.

Because it's Zmeul and he's upset AMD hasn't burned to the ground yet But in all seriousness, this is on MSI and Asus, AMD has no part in mobo bios driver features, especially these tailored for the press with Auto overclock on. Bad MSI and Asus, stop being sketchy for no real reason

There goes most of the shitposts on reddit, I wonder if reddit hosts their image service on their own servers or if they offload it to Amazon, I know the site is run on inhouse servers, but not sure about redditmedia or whatever their image host is called

I don't know how legit it is but that naming scheme is awful. R5 Pro 1300 then R5 1300 then R5 Pro 1400 then R5 1400X? Wtf kind of naming scheme is that, why not just R5 1300 then R5 1300X (Overclockable/k variant I assume). Like seriously what a terrible and confusing naming scheme. What's the difference between Pro and X, why is pro lower than just R5 1300? Somethings off here

Honestly this was not GN best video, the whole point of the heat shield is to shield from heat and act as an insulant. The point of the heat shield is to prevent GPU fans from venting out heat onto the SSD and potentially damaging it over long term. Why GN didn't test with a gpu which is what the whole purpose of the heat shield is for, idk, maybe it was just an oversight. Just thought to add some context here