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Phanteks Enthoo Pro M TG Phanteks Enthoo Pro TG (non-M, has more drive bays and 5.25" bays if you're into that) Fractal Define/Meshify C Corsair Crystal 460/570X The revamped Cooler Master H500P, with the mesh panel, shown at CES also looks good to me, and the H500M.

This thread is already three years old. :V

Hot damn, I remember when the R5 was new. Three years, more like three seconds. I'm getting real old fast. Looks like this, and the Define/Meshify C are the heroes the case industry deserves. Something to get out of the shitfest that is "RGB and TG cases with shitty airflow/shitty design/big af for no reason/expensive for what it really is/a combination of all". And to be clear, I'm not against TG and RGB, I just wish case manufacturers would focus on the case itself than be all about dat bling.

Do you need the storage potential of these cases or? Because otherwise the cheaper Fractal Define C, Phanteks Eclipse P400/Enthoo Pro M and NZXT S340 for around the $79-99 mark are more than enough for the average peeps, and have some extra goodies like a PSU shroud (Enthoo Pro regular has one tho) and tempered glass side panels. If you need water cooling, the Define C and Enthoo Pro M are ones I would recommend. Otherwise the R5 and Enthoo Pro are great if you need all that storage space, and you can't go wrong with either. I'd also add in an NZXT H440 in for good measure.

Oh what the fuck, my bad. My brain thought 'decrease' meant 'increase' for some reason. It's early morning, and I haven't had my coffee.

I mean, they don't actually improve game performance, but you sure they decrease load times?

Do you need those extra fans and stuff? PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($189.98 @ SuperBiiz) Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg) Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($169.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ B&H) Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.89 @ OutletPC) Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Windforce OC Video Card ($212.88 @ OutletPC) Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case ($63.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt Lite Full Range 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz) Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($94.89 @ OutletPC) Monitor: Asus - VZ239H 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($99.99 @ Newegg) Total: $1106.57 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-30 11:25 EST-0500 Not sure how do these translate in Swedish currency, so, uh, pick whatever is equivalent and as affordable. The only B350 boards I'd recommend is that Asus board, the Asus Strix B350-F, and the ASRock AB350 Pro4. The rest have pretty underwhelming VRM, including the MSI Tomahawk.

Not sure how much or if you're going to OC but Ryzen's stock cooler's actually good enough for even mild OC's (3.7@stock voltage). You don't need to spend another $50 for a 212X or similar cooler, unless if you're getting a 1600X, or OC'ing beyond 3.7 and adding more voltage.

I don't think it'll matter, even if you're putting an R7/i7 and a 1070/RX56+. Those are pretty efficient and cool either way. Maybe when you're putting a Threadripper/Skylake X and dual 1080 Ti's/RX64s build in a P400, then that'll definitely make things hotter. But the mainstream stuff is okay, even the higher end ones. As for P400 TG vs Enthoo Pro M TG, well, depends on you. Do you want to do a custom water cooling loop later on? Do you hypothetically see yourself upgrading to a Threadripper/Skylake X build (doubt it, but, well)? Do you just want peace of mind on temperatures? Well, Enthoo Pro M is for you. Otherwise, P400 will do just fine with any mainstream build with a single GPU, aside from being cheaper and having those extra goodies (free RGB ). Aesthetics are all up to you.

He stated he has a 1050 Ti tho.

My planned workload would be weekly 1080p video editing, and then, well, gaming. I've heard everywhere that 16GB is now the bare minimum for not only video editing but also AAA gaming. But, well, there's the rising RAM prices thingy. If I were gaming, yeah, this is an obvious choice. But, since I'm video editing, I wonder if the extra cores on the 1700 would benefit so much on video editing that I can just live with 8 gigs for now, and then add another stick once prices hopefully come down. Or is the R5 1600 more than enough for my workload, especially 1080p video editing, and that I need the extra 8 gigs of RAM now. Thanks! c: And also, yeah, my graphics card is going to be a GTX 1060, if you're wondering. T:

Yes, it has the AM4 bracket inside the box.

Because of the supposedly bad VRMs that the Tomahawk has, especially for R7 and even R5 1600 overclocking. At least that's what one user around here would say. :T What kind of VRM temperatures do you get with the R7 at 3.9GHz?

I don't think spending for the extra 10% performance, and double the VRAM is worth it, especially if it's like $40-60 more than the 3GB, especially on 1080p. You're better off spending that extra money on more SSD storage, or other stuff. You'll run out of horsepower before you run out of VRAM on 1080p@60, on most titles.

The AB350M Pro4 or the regular AB350M? Yeah, it will OC fine. They put the A there just because. :T Both seem to have similar power phases and features, minus two extra RAM slots and a couple connections, so pick whatever you may.

Except maybe R3 and quad-core R5s. True tho.

Avoid af. There are no VRM heatsinks at all on it, which will heat it up hotter than hell, especially with a heavily OC'd 1600X Not sure if you only want an mATX board, but, I'd recommend the Asus Strix B350-F, or the MSI B350 Gaming Carbon (Asus supposedly has better BIOS, but either has pretty good VRM) for that level of CPU, if you can stretch it to ATX. if you are exclusive to mATX, well, there is the Asus TUF B350M Plus. Basically the B350M-A, but with the much needed VRM heatsinks.

The Fractal Design Define Mini C TG is about the same price point as the Air 240, but it has a MUCH narrower profile, and well, tempered glass, if that's your thing. A little bit of a plane jane aesthetic, but, well, you're the judge...

Damn. PHP4K+ over the R7 1700, and doesn't come with a sweet stock cooler that has RGB can cool even a mild OC. Guess I'mma go stick with mah AyyMD. :V But seriously, at least there's already 'the other choice' that's not a 4 core/8 thread CPU at the equivalent price bracket. At least...

I'd say there are better options than the Tomahawk at a similar price. I mean, it will cut it, but the VRMs would run much hotter than usual. For boards similar to price as the Tomahawk, the ASRock AB350 Pro4/Gaming K4, and the Asus Prime B350 Plus have pretty solid VRM for their price points. I suppose a 1600X would OC to 4GHz fine on those, but it'll kinda be a stretch with an R7 at 4GHz tho, should you so desire to upgrade, without putting a fan over the VRMs. If you want the better ones, yea, the Asus Strix B350-F or the MSI B350 Gaming Pro Carbon/Krait Gaming are the best B350 boards, power delivery-wise.

The side panel's actually just acrylic, not tempered glass. It's alright. But another thing I'd also recommend is the Fractal Design Focus G Mini. It's about the same price, but you get better airflow (open front bezel), and also fan mounts on the top.