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Everything posted by infigo

  1. If you only recording your game or desktop from your pc then the nvenc, or other encoder is used and you won't need a capture card. If you want to record the output from an console or external camera that uses hdmi then you might want a capture card. It seems like you don't need one and then you can choose whatever board you like, but keep in mind that the MSI have few usb 3 ports
  2. Then the only thing you should think of is Do you ever want to add a capture card. If so, if you want a second m.2 or 5 type usb 3 ports is not enough for you then dont choose MSI If your GPU is more than 2 slots (2.5 slots is quite common today) then don't choose the asus. If none of that is a issue for you then you can choose any the 3
  3. I don't know your use case so I will add my cents more general. Asus B550m tuf wifi: + Great board with good features, rgb controller support single led acsess (but not in Asus software). Bios Flashback - The pcie 16x placement (in slot 2) is very limiting in many mATX cases. The graphics card may be to close to the bottom of the case and suffecate the GPU. Card in a 1x slot limit 4x slot to 2x (for non wifi version that is only on the second 1x) Msi B550m mortar WiFi + Also great board, better 16x GPU placement (at slot 1). Bios Flashback - few usb ports. The second 16x slot (4x electrical) disable the second m.2. that 4x slot is the one most likely to be the only one available if one need a usb card because of the few usb ports. Asrock b550m steel legend + 16x placement in slot 1, 4x slot allways full Speed but with second m.2 limited to 2x - wifi is an addon. Slighty worse vrm than the other two (but still very good). No bios Flashback. For me the AsRock b550m steel legend the one I'm probably getting due to my need for usb 3 (5gbit) ports which the MSI do not have and the Asus board place the GPU to close to the bottom in my case. So it is up to you. According to my research all boards are really good but all have their quirks. What is best for you is up to your use case. Had the Asus board have the 16x slot in slot 1 I think it would have been the best mATX board...maybe eben the best b550 board overall, but no they hade to ruin it with the 16x placement
  4. Actually there is one difference between the boards. The first 1x slot on the WiFi version shares lanes with the other 1x slot and the bottom 16x (4x electrical) So if you out a card in that upper 1x slot in the WiFi version. The bottom 4x electrical will be limited to 2x lanes (instead of 4). Only really a problem if you want to put a nvme adapter and want full bandwidth or elgato 4k 60 card which might need 4x bandwidth Edit: the second 1x slot also do the same but both boards do it on that one
  5. Hard to say. I've had two consumer HPs and it was a whole lot of struggle with those. The most stable laptop I've owned or used is the ThinkPad t420 and my brother's t420s (he now owns a t450). If I ever were to buy a laptop it would be a ThinkPad hands down. Although dell and hp business laptops are also decent the time I've used those. For desktop brands I've only used Asus and they have been good to me, cleans uefi with decent design choices and features. My brother had a bug two years in with just z97 board so the uefi UI was fucked (every menue on top of each other), we guessed our way to the uefi update menue and after a new bios update it was fine. Buying asrock for the first time now because Asus are stupid and puts the 16x slot on slot two on a mATX board, limiting expandability and fresh air for the GPU
  6. Just a note on the b550 a pro. The second 16x (4x lanes electrical) shares lanes with the second m.2. So the slot and two ssds at the same time. The two 1x can of course be used but many GPUs are 2.5 slots nowdays which might block one of them, not the one op has chosen. I don't think MSIs compromise it that good buy it's their choce, just like asrock use 2x for the second m.2 and have the second 16 slot Connected with 4 lanes. I personally like Asus approach to lanes the best. Splitting the lanes from the 16x slot (4x electricql) to all 1x slots if any card is used in One 1x slot (except if the 1x slot is cpu connected, the lanes used for WiFi on WiFi models.)
  7. Expandability on ATX boards is not as good as you think compared to mATX boards On b550 which I have done most research on you have 24 lanes total 16x gen 4 to GPU, 4x lanes to gen 4 m.2 nvme ssd. Then all boards in some way have squized in a single 1x lane to the cpu which is used for wifi card or just as a 1x slot. There are 8 gen 3 lanes from the chipser which I do believe share a 4 lane gen 3 bandwidth from the cpu to the chipset But for motherboards using a m.2 that is 4 lanes taken (in most cases, asrock only use their chipset connected m.2 with 2 lanes) Then you have a maximum of 4 lanes to other ports. On a Asus ATX board that is either a 4x slot or 4 1x slots, but on their mATX it straight up a 4x but the WiFi version takes that down to a 2x IF a 1x lane is used (non WiFi version the 1x is cpu and not chipset) MSI just disable the chipset m.2 ssd if a card is placed in the second 16x slot (4x electrical) Asrock have enough bandwidth since they only use their chipset ssd with 2 lanes.Yiu will have more option with component spacing on a ATX board but you can basically have the same expansion with a mATX board as you will be lane limited and on the mercy of the actual implementation. For example MSI b550 A-pro ATX board looks good right? Well if you use a graphics card wider than 2 slots you overlap the first 1x slot, only a 16x (4 lanes connected) and a 1x slot. If the 16x is used you get No second m.2 so you only have a 1x slot expantion in ATX board. Asus b550m tuf gaming you can use a 1x card in the top 1x and an m.2 and if you only have a 2 wide slot graphics card you can use the bottom 16 slot (2 lanes on WiFi model if 1x is filled and 4 lanes in non WiFi model) without disabling the m.2. So it is not just black and white but for most people there could be a mATX for them as ATX give nothing more than spacing between slots. some boards like MSI repurpose 1 or 2 lanes to usb c 10 gigabit front panel which steals lanes to be used as expantion. Z490 is similar lanes wise to b550 but always look in the manual for limitations in either expantion slots or storage as they have asterisks there on how you can use them. On x570 and HEDT platforms you have more lanes and then an ATX board will have more expandability but if you need that then you don't need to ask this question. I like ASUS the best in this regard as they use a 4x m.2 and a 4x slot (or up to four 1x) while others either skimp on m.2 lanes or disable the second m.2 all together
  8. Should not be may different from other b550 boards in terms of chipset or its cooling and the vrm is good.
  9. Yes of only using a 1080p version of the card. It will work on the B550 A-Pro but you will not be able to use a second m.2 ssd. With a graphics card that is strictly 2 slots wide then the wifi card could fit in the above 1x slot. At least you know the limitation on that board B550 Tuf gaming and the Prime B550 will both be able to use a second M.2 regardless where the wifi and capture card is placed, even with a wider graphics card (the one you have listed now is a little bit wider than 2 slots.)
  10. Which capture card are you thinking of? Is it the 4k card or the Full HD card? If you get the Asus B550 Tuf gaming plus you will be fine ether way. You can buy the card and antennas separate (usually cheaper) by buying a AX200 or 9260 NGFF m.2 card and antennas, One example wifi kit. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pnqBD3/asus-tuf-gaming-b550-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-b550-plus A little cheeper is the Asus PRIME B550-PLUS but if you want wifi on that one AND use the 4k elgato capture card, your Graphics card have to be a maximum of 2 slot wide. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TR848d/asus-prime-b550-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-prime-b550-plus The Graphics card you looking at now, its cooler pertrude a bit over the metal back plate which will cover where the wifi card would sit on the prime (If using the 4k capture card) If you only want the 1080p FHD capture card elgato sells then either of the motherboards will do and you can put 1x cards wherever you want in it. I would pay the extra 20$ for the TUF Gaming plus when you already spend 1150$ and not have to really care of the spacing and layout. But adding wifi usually costs about 30$ which on the TUF is almost in the ROG B550-F wifi price range. If you plan to buy the 1080p card it is much easier as any capture card or wifi card can be placed wherever but if using the 4k capture card, then there is only one way things can sit and it may be anoying to deal with.
  11. The reason I ask is that there are very few B550 boards with a 4x secondary slot AND a second 4x pcie drive. Most often you get either but not both, Asrock B550m Steel legend can give a 4x slot and a 2x m.2, the more expensive B550 Tuf gaming can ether have 4 1x cards or one 4x card, it have a stand alone socket for wifi and a 4x nvme drive. But if I know your actual needs then we can save you some money. So what version of elgato do you use? Because if it is the 4k60 card which uses a 4x slot you have to start making a choice of the rest of the options or get a X570 which have more pcie lanes. If it is the regular 1080p60 card which uses a 1x slot then you have a lot of choice and we only have to find a motherboard where the GPU is not covering the 1x slots. Otherwise the more expensive B550 Tuf gaming can ether have 4 1x cards or one 4x card, it have a stand alone socket for wifi and a 4x nvme drive.
  12. It will fit. The issue with the b550m mortar is that the second m.2 and the bottom 16x slot (4x electrical) share lanes. So you can either use a card in bottom slot 16x slot or two m.2 drives. Good to know for future upgrades Looked up the b550-a pro as well. It to has the same limitation . Second m.2 disable the second 16x slot (4x electrical). If your elgato is a 1x card it can sit in one of those but otherwise you have to make a choice of the future m.2 upgradability or find a motherboard without that tradeoff. B550 often have one tradeoff so decide what you want, regardless of mATX or ATX. B550m tuf gaming do not have limitations on the second 16x which could interfere with a second m.2 and if you can use a GPU with a pcie layout one slot down in your case (It do for example not work in my case and is the reason I can't use the b550m tuf gaming) But the b550m tuf gaming plus WiFi and b550 tuf gaming DO have a limitation to limit the second 16x slot (4x electrical) to 2x when a card is used in a 1x slot. So be careful. Look in the user manual or the SPECIFIC board you plan to use as it can vary within added WiFi versions. It is located in the intro specification under expansion slots or m.2 slots in the manual, it usually have an asterisk on pcie limitations
  13. 85C by itself is no trouble but it is the circumstance WHY it is 85C that is interesting The question is where the temp limit is on that card. The higher the limit the more headroom for GPU boost to increase the clock speed and also the voltages. What is the GPU core frequency? If it is higher than the advertised speed then your card think it have headroom and pushes the clock speeds as much as it can.
  14. I really like my moto G5s Plus. Working very well for 300$. The standard G5 Plus that came out a bit earlier this year they say is very nice and will save you a bit more but I haven't tested that one
  15. Well Ebay och Aliexpress is relly your only option. Some business computer like my T420 the motherboards can be bought directly from Lenovo, not cheap but at least I can or could since it is out of support now. For any other computer there is really only ebay, aliepress or salvaging broken machines to get what you want. Then finding the right board for ASUS, Acer, HP, Lenovo (consumer) or any other brands is sometimes somewhat impossible. To compare my machine again there is not a lot of options of motherboards (around 30) on ebay that I know will work in theory (since there is documentation about the different boards on lenovo's site) and many is quite expensive but that will not be true for you. You will probably have a hard time finding another board but good luck. This is just in theory and a bought board may not be in working condition when it arrives.
  16. No problem. It will probably draw closer to 300W but the most effective range is about 50-70% depending on powersupply and 110/230V
  17. Not that I know of. Also there is computers like Thinkpad t420/30/10 and x220/230/200 that had the availability with a extended battery that made the same thing.
  18. What do you mean by sourcing a new? If you are using the same motherboard then you can use the same key and if it is W10 you can just download W10 to a USB stick and install since it will activate itself automatically
  19. You could yes. But I would take this as a good opportunity to do a complete clean reinstall of everything. But that choice is yours
  20. And whatever you do W10 shitty power management will run updates and telemetry anyway and all of this was a waste. And for the keyboard and mouse. Have you tested the keyboard and trackpads of cheap laptops? They are atrocious and unusable. I was about to get one of those pointing pens dads use for Ipads because using the finger on my friends laptop was so awfull
  21. Exactly. The GT1030 is mostly for those that want better than iGPU and thin laptops. So if you can afford something like a 1050 to a 1060 that would be a lot better value than the 1030.
  22. It does have halv the cuda cores, texture units and rest units. So it should perform half as good as 1050ti. That would place it around 750Ti in performance and would be nice for low powered laptops, replacing 940MX. 2.1Gflops (1050ti) compared to 1.1Gflops (1030) if that is correct it corresponds to what wrote the row above But in this price range every dollar added gives much more performance
  23. I think gamemode is because they can´t figure out how to stop Windows update and telemetry starting and chugging hard on the CPU while doing tasks that is battery critical or performance critical. Now they "fixed" the performance critical part but I think that telemetry management is still going to pop up at 80% cpu when i'm doing CAD on my laptop on battery so it runs out while i'm on the train with no outlet. Just fix your recourse management microsoft. It worked so well in W8.1 why not in W10?
  24. That is what I meant. I've seen more complaining about running legacy and efi at the same time than the opposite. But if that is the way legacy works