QNIX QX2710 or ASUS PB278Q

[jonyman23]

So I am looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4JH22G1440 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236294&cm_re=pb278q-_-24-236-294-_-Product

 

So my build...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (Purchased For $199.99) 

CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $42.50) 

Motherboard: MSI Z87 MPOWER ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (Purchased For $139.99) 

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (Purchased For $64.99) 

Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 64GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $75.00) 

Storage: Toshiba Q Series Pro 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $159.99) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $87.99) 

Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card  (Purchased For $329.99) 

Case: Thermaltake Armor Revo Gene Snow Edition ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $89.99) 

Power Supply: Rosewill Tachyon 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $131.99) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit)  (Purchased For $15.00) 

Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor  ($159.00) 

Case Fan: Cooler Master Megaflow 110.0 CFM 200mm  Fan  (Purchased For $19.99) 

Keyboard: Ducky Zero Shine Blue LED Keyboard  Wired Gaming Keyboard  (Purchased For $87.96) 

Mouse: ROCCAT Kone Pure Wired Laser Mouse  (Purchased For $70.00) 

Headphones: Logitech G930 7.1 Channel Headset  (Purchased For $109.99) 

Other: MouseMat (Purchased For $10.00)

Total: $1794.36

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-19 22:30 EST-0500

 

I planned on upgrading to a gigabyte GTX 970 G1 but somebody said that their 770 performs very well on the QNIX one and that he is holding off on a 970. I have about a $350 ish range budget for a Christmas gift and if Ido not get the 970 G1 than I will get the Qnix and later get a 970 for the Qnix.

 

I also know that the QNIX is a PLS and panel and not IPS like the ASUS one, I hear the only difference is that the IPS is more vivid with the colors and some say the QNIX is better for gaming. 

 

Thanks in advance and let me know!

[mr.skyrim_pc]

Since the Qnix one is significantly cheaper, get it! PLS looks almost as good as ips, but a lot better than tn.

[Aniallation]

 

I also know that the QNIX is a PLS and panel and not IPS like the ASUS one, I hear the only difference is that the IPS is more vivid with the colors and some say the QNIX is better for gaming. 

 

Between the two, hands down QNIX. Not only is it just as good (if not better), it's cheaper.

 

If you want to spend a lot of money on a 1440p monitor, BenQ BL2710PT.

[jonyman23]

Since the Qnix one is significantly cheaper, get it! PLS looks almost as good as ips, but a lot better than tn.

 

 

Between the two, hands down QNIX. Not only is it just as good (if not better), it's cheaper.

 

If you want to spend a lot of money on a 1440p monitor, BenQ BL2710PT.

the thing is though, will my gigabyte GTX 770, overclocked with 111% power limit, Core clock 1187-1239 and MHZ at 7040, do the job to perform well for a long enough time?

[mr.skyrim_pc]

 

 

 

the thing is though, will my gigabyte GTX 770, overclocked with 111% power limit, Core clock 1187-1239 and MHZ at 7040, do the job to perform well for a long enough time?

 

It would do alright, but I would get something like a 970, if you want something to last a while.

[jonyman23]

It would do alright, but I would get something like a 970, if you want something to last a while.

the original plan was to get a G1 970 and then a pb278q down the line... Also thinking that I can sell me 770 and than get a Qnix 

[Victor Yiu]

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[Ebinlaw]

And guys dont forget that the Qnix is overclockable. Im running one at 120Hz and one at 96hz

[jonyman23]

thanks guys I am probably going to pick up the Qnix after I get a 90 for christmas

[GoodBytes]

Qnix is at best garbage and waste of money.

The only time I would recommend such monitor is if you are really tight on money and need a 2560x1440 monitor.

Here is why I cannot recommend Qnix or any similar cheapo monitor:

-> Uses rejected LG/Samsung panels. These rejects might be panels that doesn't follow the targeted specifications (response time, sharpness, contrast, durability, etc), or visually faulty (star effect on black, some pixels is blurry due to the miss formed grid, or other)

-> Ultra cheap generic enclosure with buttons that do nothing on many of these models

-> Warranty is filled with conditions and exceptions to not cover you.

-> If you manage to be covered, you need to pay shipping all the way to South Korea, plus possibly pay duty fees once your get the replacement one depending on where you live an laws and regulations.

-> On screen menu is limited to no options to genuinely adjust the monitor settings. Some don't even have brightness control, you only have changing colors to make it dimmer, but the brightness of the back light remains 100%, so it still hurts your eyes. Some don't even have an on screen menu, and you only have 5 or so brightness levels in steps.

-> Super high input lag

-> Overclock is a lie. You cannot overclock the monitor properly. Claims of 120Hz are false. DVI doesn't allow this resolution at 120Hz. You can push 75Hz and maybe a bit more, but after that, you get what many have reported: frame drop.

-> The monitor uses PWM to drive the back light, for those that are adjustable, and not a dimmer circuit like most decent monitors. If you are PWM sensitive (monitors give you a headache, as you don't see a flickering, but you fell it).

If you think I am talking my ass off, here is an in depth monitor of the oh so popular QNIX:

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/qnix_qx2710.htm

[Porter_]

i went through this debate last year when i bought my PB278Q.  i ultimately chose to pay more for better build quality, better aesthetics (imo), and the option for an easy return if need be.  i can't weigh in on the QNIX but the PB278Q looks phenomenal.  pixel response time is a bit slow but i did more than fine using it to play a crap ton of BF4. 

[jonyman23]

Qnix is at best garbage and waste of money.

The only time I would recommend such monitor is if you are really tight on money and need a 2560x1440 monitor.

Here is why I cannot recommend Qnix or any similar cheapo monitor:

-> Uses rejected LG/Samsung panels. These rejects might be panels that doesn't follow the targeted specifications (response time, sharpness, contrast, durability, etc), or visually faulty (star effect on black, some pixels is blurry due to the miss formed grid, or other)

-> Ultra cheap generic enclosure with buttons that do nothing on many of these models

-> Warranty is filled with conditions and exceptions to not cover you.

-> If you manage to be covered, you need to pay shipping all the way to South Korea, plus possibly pay duty fees once your get the replacement one depending on where you live an laws and regulations.

-> On screen menu is limited to no options to genuinely adjust the monitor settings. Some don't even have brightness control, you only have changing colors to make it dimmer, but the brightness of the back light remains 100%, so it still hurts your eyes. Some don't even have an on screen menu, and you only have 5 or so brightness levels in steps.

-> Super high input lag

-> Overclock is a lie. You cannot overclock the monitor properly. Claims of 120Hz are false. DVI doesn't allow this resolution at 120Hz. You can push 75Hz and maybe a bit more, but after that, you get what many have reported: frame drop.

-> The monitor uses PWM to drive the back light, for those that are adjustable, and not a dimmer circuit like most decent monitors. If you are PWM sensitive (monitors give you a headache, as you don't see a flickering, but you fell it).

If you think I am talking my ass off, here is an in depth monitor of the oh so popular QNIX:

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/qnix_qx2710.htm

That's a bold statement to say because that is the first REAL bad thing I've hear about this monitor. Also I kinda don't trust the website you showed because it seems unprofessional. I'd like more than just one person saying it's bad to completely change my opinion 

[Porter_]

Also I kinda don't trust the website you showed because it seems unprofessional.

 

i'm not weighing in on whether or not the QNIX is a good monitor, but tftcentral is an extremely reputable monitor review site. 

[GoodBytes]

That's a bold statement to say because that is the first REAL bad thing I've hear about this monitor. Also I kinda don't trust the website you showed because it seems unprofessional. I'd like more than just one person saying it's bad to completely change my opinion

This was under discussion here many times.

The site is a very respected site on monitor reviews. That is what they do.... monitor reviews. They prefer spending money on expensive equipment and proper knowledge on how to use them, than a pretty site. However, check out AnandTech, or Prad.de, if you want confirmation

[smjpl]

That's a bold statement to say because that is the first REAL bad thing I've hear about this monitor. Also I kinda don't trust the website you showed because it seems unprofessional. I'd like more than just one person saying it's bad to completely change my opinion 

 

tftcentral is one of the best monitor sites out there.

 

You can knock a fair few quid for the stand alone. The build quality of the PB278Q stand is worth about a $100 more than what you get on any korean monitor. Just remember that is one of the areas they are cutting costs. In my opinion a 27" monitor requires a good stand. If you plan to never move it, plug cables in and out or even touch off it, then you may get away with it. Just be warned that their stands are rubbish. No features and not very sturdy.

[jonyman23]

tftcentral is one of the best monitor sites out there.

 

You can knock a fair few quid for the stand alone. The build quality of the PB278Q stand is worth about a $100 more than what you get on any korean monitor. Just remember that is one of the areas they are cutting costs. In my opinion a 27" monitor requires a good stand. If you plan to never move it, plug cables in and out or even touch off it, then you may get away with it. Just be warned that their stands are rubbish. No features and not very sturdy.

 

 

This was under discussion here many times.

The site is a very respected site on monitor reviews. That is what they do.... monitor reviews. They prefer spending money on expensive equipment and proper knowledge on how to use them, than a pretty site. However, check out AnandTech, or Prad.de, if you want confirmation

I am going to put the pb278Q into my friends build but for me I am on a budget and I will get a Qnix and buy a new stand myself, I have talked to a lot of people and they say they have great experiences with their korean monitors. Also sorry, first glance at the sight just didn't seem to trustworthy but after reading a good portion and seeing the rest it does seem like an indepth review

[GoodBytes]

I am going to put the pb278Q into my friends build but for me I am on a budget and I will get a Qnix and buy a new stand myself, I have talked to a lot of people and they say they have great experiences with their korean monitors. Also sorry, first glance at the sight just didn't seem to trustworthy but after reading a good portion and seeing the rest it does seem like an indepth review

The decision is definitely yours. As long as you understand the drawbacks, and you knowledge them and are fine with it, then good. The monitor will fit your needs, and you'll be happy with your purchase, and that would mean that we have provided you successfully, good advice for you to take a decision upon.

[Ebinlaw]

Qnix is at best garbage and waste of money.

The only time I would recommend such monitor is if you are really tight on money and need a 2560x1440 monitor.

Here is why I cannot recommend Qnix or any similar cheapo monitor:

-> Uses rejected LG/Samsung panels. These rejects might be panels that doesn't follow the targeted specifications (response time, sharpness, contrast, durability, etc), or visually faulty (star effect on black, some pixels is blurry due to the miss formed grid, or other)

-> Ultra cheap generic enclosure with buttons that do nothing on many of these models

-> Warranty is filled with conditions and exceptions to not cover you.

-> If you manage to be covered, you need to pay shipping all the way to South Korea, plus possibly pay duty fees once your get the replacement one depending on where you live an laws and regulations.

-> On screen menu is limited to no options to genuinely adjust the monitor settings. Some don't even have brightness control, you only have changing colors to make it dimmer, but the brightness of the back light remains 100%, so it still hurts your eyes. Some don't even have an on screen menu, and you only have 5 or so brightness levels in steps.

-> Super high input lag

-> Overclock is a lie. You cannot overclock the monitor properly. Claims of 120Hz are false. DVI doesn't allow this resolution at 120Hz. You can push 75Hz and maybe a bit more, but after that, you get what many have reported: frame drop.

-> The monitor uses PWM to drive the back light, for those that are adjustable, and not a dimmer circuit like most decent monitors. If you are PWM sensitive (monitors give you a headache, as you don't see a flickering, but you fell it).

If you think I am talking my ass off, here is an in depth monitor of the oh so popular QNIX:

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/qnix_qx2710.htm

 

Actually thats a bit deceiving. That link you posted was to Qnix with multiport. That version has A LOT higher input lag(because of the added scaler of the multiport model), than the normal version with just DL DVI-D input. No one ever recommends that version, because its bad and its not even overclockable(some say they got it to 85Hz).

 

I dont have OSD, but i have a working brightness control

 

Only the multiport models have that PWM dimming you are talking about.

 

The lack of scaler in the Single-input model actually makes its input lag really low. Measured to be 1-3ms

 

You cant use the single-input model, with consoles though. Lack of scaler does this.

 

They actually are Overclockable and 120hz is NOT false... Its just the multiport version -----> check that out http://www.overclock.net/t/1384767/official-the-qnix-x-star-1440p-monitor-club

Quotes from the link above:

 

 

Q: Does the TRUE10 model (10-bit panel) overclock? How is the input-lag?

A: No it does not overclock (regardless of what they try and tell you, for the time being). Added on 10-27-14: Some have reported that the newer True10 monitors can OC to roughly 85 Hz. YMMV

Input lag is worse than on the 8-bit panel version. DO NOT get this if you are trying to game. These are graphic design specific panels, and you probably need a 10-bit specific graphics card to even make use of the 10-bit color depth.

 

 

Q: Does the single-input version of these monitors overclock?

A: Yes. To see the various overclocks (OCs) reported, look to the expandable section below titled "Members List Form Submission Trends, Analysis" and look for the pie graph of reported OCs.

Here is more about the shitty multiport Qnix: http://www.overclock.net/t/1384767/official-the-qnix-x-star-1440p-monitor-club/18800#post_22351276

 

 

Also there is no cure for the noticeable input lag compared to the QNIX single-input/PLS in FPS gaming due to the "scaler" inherent in the True10 models

 

I have tested them both for frame skips and they skip none...

 

Image attachment is not working for some reason.. but here is my screen that is capable of 96hz and 120Hz

 

http://prntscr.com/58ioj9

 

http://prntscr.com/58iqae

 

 

TL;DR: You are confusing 2 different models together

[GoodBytes]

dual link DVI max resolution is 2560x1600 @ 60 Hz 8-bit colors per channel.

You have frame skipping, or colors are reduced, pick your choice.

[Ebinlaw]

dual link DVI max resolution is 2560x1600 @ 60 Hz 8-bit colors per channel.

You have frame skipping, or colors are reduced, pick your choice.

Well I have tested my monitors for frame skipping. There is none.

 

If colors are reduced, it must be by so little that its unnoticeable. Changing between 60Hz, 96Hz and 120hz atm. No difference.

[alexyy]

Since the Qnix one is significantly cheaper, get it! PLS looks almost as good as ips, but a lot better than tn

PLS is better than IPS

[alexyy]

Qnix is at best garbage and waste of money.

The only time I would recommend such monitor is if you are really tight on money and need a 2560x1440 monitor.

Here is why I cannot recommend Qnix or any similar cheapo monitor:

-> Uses rejected LG/Samsung panels. These rejects might be panels that doesn't follow the targeted specifications (response time, sharpness, contrast, durability, etc), or visually faulty (star effect on black, some pixels is blurry due to the miss formed grid, or other)

-> Ultra cheap generic enclosure with buttons that do nothing on many of these models

-> Warranty is filled with conditions and exceptions to not cover you.

-> If you manage to be covered, you need to pay shipping all the way to South Korea, plus possibly pay duty fees once your get the replacement one depending on where you live an laws and regulations.

-> On screen menu is limited to no options to genuinely adjust the monitor settings. Some don't even have brightness control, you only have changing colors to make it dimmer, but the brightness of the back light remains 100%, so it still hurts your eyes. Some don't even have an on screen menu, and you only have 5 or so brightness levels in steps.

-> Super high input lag

-> Overclock is a lie. You cannot overclock the monitor properly. Claims of 120Hz are false. DVI doesn't allow this resolution at 120Hz. You can push 75Hz and maybe a bit more, but after that, you get what many have reported: frame drop.

-> The monitor uses PWM to drive the back light, for those that are adjustable, and not a dimmer circuit like most decent monitors. If you are PWM sensitive (monitors give you a headache, as you don't see a flickering, but you fell it).

If you think I am talking my ass off, here is an in depth monitor of the oh so popular QNIX:

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/qnix_qx2710.htm

 

I disagree so does everyone here also has proof of 120Hz overclocking capabilities,

http://www.overclock.net/t/1384767/official-the-qnix-x-star-1440p-monitor-club

 

Another video worth watching

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xU8MuHxJfc

[Victor Yiu]

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[Aniallation]

-> Uses rejected LG/Samsung panels. These rejects might be panels that doesn't follow the targeted specifications (response time, sharpness, contrast, durability, etc), or visually faulty (star effect on black, some pixels is blurry due to the miss formed grid, or other)

-> On screen menu is limited to no options to genuinely adjust the monitor settings. Some don't even have brightness control, you only have changing colors to make it dimmer, but the brightness of the back light remains 100%, so it still hurts your eyes. Some don't even have an on screen menu, and you only have 5 or so brightness levels in steps.

-> Super high input lag

-> Overclock is a lie. You cannot overclock the monitor properly. Claims of 120Hz are false. DVI doesn't allow this resolution at 120Hz. You can push 75Hz and maybe a bit more, but after that, you get what many have reported: frame drop.

-> The monitor uses PWM to drive the back light, for those that are adjustable, and not a dimmer circuit like most decent monitors. If you are PWM sensitive (monitors give you a headache, as you don't see a flickering, but you fell it).

 

1. You should be expecting this or else you'd spend more and purchase a legit LG/Samsung 1440p monitor.

2. Only present in multi-input QNIX which is trash. Single input QNIX is perfectly fine in terms of input lag.

3. Your statement is a lie. Many people have gotten to 120Hz. @EcoBoost has hers at 120Hz with no frame drop.

4. The PWM dimming is at 160Hz, which practically nobody will notice.

[Aniallation]

I am going to put the pb278Q into my friends build but for me I am on a budget and I will get a Qnix and buy a new stand myself, I have talked to a lot of people and they say they have great experiences with their korean monitors. Also sorry, first glance at the sight just didn't seem to trustworthy but after reading a good portion and seeing the rest it does seem like an indepth review

Bro, the QNIX is a great monitor. GoodBytes is nuts. I wouldn't put that nonsense Asus into your friend's build unless you want him to waste money.