CPU upgrade for current rig

[Merreck]

So I'm thinking of upgrading my current setup:
I5-6600K (none OC, but i might, if i end up waiting for prices to drop)

Z170 ASUS Pro Gaming MB

8gb (2x 4GB 2133 Mhz) Corsair Vengeance

GTX 1070 ASUS STRIX O8C

144 Hz 24" screen

Samsung M.2 960 EVO 256 gb

WD Black 2 TB

NZXT X62 Kraken

 

i just want to upgrade the CPU to a more Current model as im into gaming CPU intensive games (Total War series (heavily Modded)), X Rebirth, X4 Foundations, Cities Skylines, Sins of a Solar Empire (Heavily Modded), and World of Warcraft) on high refresh rate 1080P

 

but also expecting some Auto CAD, Adobe Premiere/Photoshop (wife's career), and perhaps VM's and Coding in my own step into IT studies.

 

these are the potential components and prices locally in the Netherlands, and no matter which setup i'd go for i would buy the RAM upgrade regardless.

 

Potential Processors    Core Speeds        Core/Threads        Cache        Price

I7-9700K        3.60 - 4.90 ghz        8C/8T            12MB        450 Euro    
I7-8700K        3.70 - 4.70 ghz        6C/12T          12MB        465 Euro
I5-9600K        3.70 - 4.60 ghz        6C/6T            9MB          300 Euro
Ryzen 7 2700X        3.70 - 4.30 ghz        8C/16T            16MB        330 Euro

Potential MB's                Price

Intel Z390

Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro WiFi          207 Euro
Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro                  197 Euro
ASRock Z390 Extreme 4                    174 Euro
Asus ROG Strix Z390-H Gaming        218 Euro (207 Euro Amazon.de)
Asus PRIME Z390-A                          194 Euro (183 Euro Amazon.de)

 

AMD X470

ASUS Prime X470-Pro                               174 Euro    
GIGABYTE X470 AORUS Ultra Gaming    139 Euro

 

Potential Memory Ram Kits 2 x 8gb

Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro CMW16GX4M2C3000C15  (3,000 Mhz. CAS latency 15, True latency 10,00ns)        155 Euro

 

I must admit i am a bit of a Intel fan, and also i do love the turbo 3.0 on 9th gen Intel, so the CPU heavy Games will run well without the CPU being the bottle neck. i want some advise and perhaps a build based on these components that i have narrowed it down too and that i am comfortable buying.

[Taf the Ghost]

Biggest upgrade would be from moving to 3000 or higher memory. A 2x 8Gb kit of 3000 or 3200 will you're playing a game that can really bottleneck 4 full cores. Tossing a bit of an OC might help in a few situations, but you'd need the cooling for that anyway. So, get the Memory & Cooling sorted before you upgrade the rest of the platform. I think a light OC and good memory will close nearly all performance gaps you have. Unless you want to also stream at the same time.

 

The other reason to suggest that is that Intel prices are still inflated and, if you can wait, I'd wait until the other side of the New Year.

[LukeSavenije]

As I know dutch pricing, I would advice to take a x470 asus prime, msi pro carbon or aorus ultra gaming. You can find x370 asus crosshair board pretty cheap too

[SupaKomputa]

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i just want to upgrade the CPU to a more Current model as im into gaming CPU intensive games (Total War series (heavily Modded)), X Rebirth, X4 Foundations, Cities Skylines, Sins of a Solar Empire (Heavily Modded), and World of Warcraft) on high refresh rate 1080P

 

but also expecting some Auto CAD, Adobe Premiere/Photoshop (wife's career), and perhaps VM's and Coding in my own step into IT studies.

 

Most games will use up to 8 threads (4 cores). With higher IPC, intel wins this.

 

But for productivity that utilized all of the cores, i think Ryzen is the best for the buck.

Especially for VM, you can address the cores as a dedicated cpu unit.

For coding, doesn't matter, even a 1 cored cpu can do it.

[Merreck]

2 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Biggest upgrade would be from moving to 3000 or higher memory. A 2x 8Gb kit of 3000 or 3200 will you're playing a game that can really bottleneck 4 full cores. Tossing a bit of an OC might help in a few situations, but you'd need the cooling for that anyway. So, get the Memory & Cooling sorted before you upgrade the rest of the platform. I think a light OC and good memory will close nearly all performance gaps you have. Unless you want to also stream at the same time.

 

The other reason to suggest that is that Intel prices are still inflated and, if you can wait, I'd wait until the other side of the New Year.

yes the ram upgrade is the only think that would be a given, whether i upgrade or not, however i did mention that i have a NZXT Kraken X62, i think thats plenty for OC'ing as when gaming 90~100% cpu usage (of course without OC) it only gets too 35-40 degrees max, and thats in a case where the GPU goes up too 55 ~ 65 pushing 90 ~ 110 fps on 1080P.

 

 

1 hour ago, SupaKomputa said:

Most games will use up to 8 threads (4 cores). With higher IPC, intel wins this.

 

But for productivity that utilized all of the cores, i think Ryzen is the best for the buck.

Especially for VM, you can address the cores as a dedicated cpu unit.

For coding, doesn't matter, even a 1 cored cpu can do it.

yeah perhaps ill wait for CES 2019 too see what Ryzen 3000 is gonna do before i pull the trigger and upgrade CPU/MOBO, the ram is coming regardless =P

[Taf the Ghost]

1 hour ago, Merreck said:

yes the ram upgrade is the only think that would be a given, whether i upgrade or not, however i did mention that i have a NZXT Kraken X62, i think thats plenty for OC'ing as when gaming 90~100% cpu usage (of course without OC) it only gets too 35-40 degrees max, and thats in a case where the GPU goes up too 55 ~ 65 pushing 90 ~ 110 fps on 1080P.

 

 

yeah perhaps ill wait for CES 2019 too see what Ryzen 3000 is gonna do before i pull the trigger and upgrade CPU/MOBO, the ram is coming regardless =P

Missed the X62 part, so that's fine.

 

Upgrade the memory and then wait. You'll need to anyway, as 2133 would bottleneck everything you'd upgrade to anyway, and DDR4 prices have gotten reasonable. Best case scenario is we see Node Shrinks from both AMD & Intel by the end of 2019 on Desktop. That's a lot more performance at the same price, so, if you can wait it out, probably best to do that on the CPU side of things.