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[Gomojoe]

I am looking to build a gaming computer for my 12 year old son.  He is new to gaming, mostly playing Fortnite at the moment, but I would like to make sure it's a system that he can grow into.  I have built one computer before so I have a little experience.  I am looking to build it myself not only to save a little money, but I also want to show my son and have him help where he can.  He is also disabled, with only 4 fingers per hand so any recommendations on peripherals would be appreciated.  He is able to use controllers like the PS4 and Switch, and I know he can use a mouse and keyboard, but maybe not in the most efficient and rapid manner.  I would also like any recommendations on where to buy.  The last computer I just bought everything at once from New Egg.

[Cereal5]

Newegg, Amazon, even places like Best Buy and Walmart If the prices are good.

 

what resolution/refresh rate does he play at? 

[Jurrunio]

that budget includes monitor, keyboard, mouse, speaker etc?

[Gomojoe]

He doesn't even know anything about resolution/refresh rate and yes it would include the monitor, keyboard, speaker excetra.  Truthfully, with his limited knowledge he would probably be happy with very little, but I am hoping this gets him interested and then he can realize what he has and maybe what he could upgrade it to in the future.

[Gomojoe]

He is not mentally disabled and does really like gaming.  He just hasn't really experienced much in the way of PC gaming.  I really haven't either for many years.

[Zando_]

8 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

that budget includes monitor, keyboard, mouse, speaker etc?

^^^^. Also, even with 4 fingers on each hand he should be able to use a mouse and keyboard if he wants to, most games have an autosprint so you only *need* to use 4 keys (W, A, S, and D), and the mouse has two buttons so all good there. Most games on PC also support controller though, so there's lots of options. 

[Gomojoe]

My initial thoughts are to go with a CPU that won't be outdated too soon so I was think i7 Intel.  Then have no clue what most games really need at this point.  The motherboard I would just like to be reliable and have potential for expandability.  I was probably thinking of going with a liquid cooled system.  Don't need any fancy lights or anything but I am sure that would add to the wow factor for him if I add it.

 

[Zando_]

4 minutes ago, Gomojoe said:

My initial thoughts are to go with a CPU that won't be outdated too soon so I was think i7 Intel.  Then have no clue what most games really need at this point.  The motherboard I would just like to be reliable and have potential for expandability.  I was probably thinking of going with a liquid cooled system.  Don't need any fancy lights or anything but I am sure that would add to the wow factor for him if I add it.

 

I'd go for a Ryzen CPU if he's not playing at 144Hz, the AM4 platform has been pledged support till 2020. What res/refresh rate were you thinking of? And RGB is pretty easy to add, lots of stuff comes with it standard. If you aren't going for max price to performance, your budget gives you some nice wiggle room to color match everything. Also as far as space goes, do you want a full ATX tower, or an mITX/mATX rig? ATX usually has the most upgradability, but ITX systems are nice and compact. 

[Jurrunio]

14 minutes ago, Gomojoe said:

liquid cooled system.

maintenance problem, better not.

[DOGEY]

39 minutes ago, Gomojoe said:

liquid cooled system

Liquid cooled systems are not easy to maintenance. Anyways here's the list: 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor	$419.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler	Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$84.35 @ Newegg
Motherboard	ASRock - Z390 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$168.98 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory	$147.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 970 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$147.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$79.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card	$419.98 @ Newegg
Case	Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case	$79.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$89.99 @ Amazon
Case Accessory	NZXT - Hue+ LED Controller	$109.99 @ Amazon
Monitor	Asus - VP228H 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor	$99.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard	Razer - Ornata Chroma Wired Gaming Keyboard	$79.99 @ Amazon
Mouse	Razer - DeathAdder Elite Wired Optical Mouse	$54.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2024.21
	Mail-in rebates	-$40.00
	Total	$1984.21
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-02 15:45 EDT-0400

Added the best RGB lighting i know (Using it now :D) also everything is from Amazon and newegg exept the CPU

[mayonnaiseblackhole]

19 minutes ago, DOGEY said:

Liquid cooled systems are not easy to maintenance. Anyways here's the list: 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor	$419.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler	Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$84.35 @ Newegg
Motherboard	ASRock - Z390 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$168.98 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory	$147.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 970 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$147.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$79.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card	$419.98 @ Newegg
Case	Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case	$79.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$89.99 @ Amazon
Case Accessory	NZXT - Hue+ LED Controller	$109.99 @ Amazon
Monitor	Asus - VP228H 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor	$99.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard	Razer - Ornata Chroma Wired Gaming Keyboard	$79.99 @ Amazon
Mouse	Razer - DeathAdder Elite Wired Optical Mouse	$54.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2024.21
	Mail-in rebates	-$40.00
	Total	$1984.21
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-02 15:45 EDT-0400

Added the best RGB lighting i know (Using it now :D) also everything is from Amazon and newegg exept the CPU

That seems really overkill for the display you picked.

[Zando_]

3 minutes ago, DustierDolphin said:

That seems really overkill for the display you picked.

^^^ For anything 60Hz, go Ryzen, it's much cheaper. Intel wins out if you want 144hz though. 

[mayonnaiseblackhole]

[PCPartPicker part list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/whTKxG) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/whTKxG/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jLF48d/amd-ryzen-5-2600-34ghz-6-core-processor-yd2600bbafbox) | $159.89 @ OutletPC 
**CPU Cooler** | [Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hmtCmG/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2) | $29.89 @ OutletPC 
**Motherboard** | [MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4D7v6h/msi-x470-gaming-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-x470-gaming-plus) | $116.88 @ OutletPC 
**Memory** | [Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MYH48d/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15) | $134.99 @ Amazon 
**Storage** | [Crucial - MX500 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/h3tQzy/crucial-mx500-1tb-25-solid-state-drive-ct1000mx500ssd1) | $154.89 @ OutletPC 
**Video Card** | [MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VF448d/msi-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-11gb-gaming-video-card-gtx-1080-ti-gaming-11g) | $744.98 @ Newegg 
**Case** | [Cooler Master - MasterBox Pro 5 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hWnG3C/cooler-master-masterbox-pro-5-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-mcy-b5p2-kwgn-01) | $74.99 @ Amazon 
**Power Supply** | [EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9q4NnQ/evga-power-supply-220g20650y1) | $75.88 @ OutletPC 
**Monitor** | [VIOTEK - GN27D 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HbCD4D/viotek-gn27d-270-2560x1440-144hz-monitor-gn27d) | $349.99 @ Newegg Business 
**Keyboard** | [Redragon - K552 Wired Gaming Keyboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VhkwrH/redragon-keyboard-k552) | $29.99 @ Amazon 
**Mouse** | [HIRALIY - HR-F300 Wired Optical Mouse](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3zgzK8/hiraliy-hr-f300-wired-optical-mouse-hr-f300) | $19.99 @ Amazon 
 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
 | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1942.36
 | Mail-in rebates | -$50.00
 | **Total** | **$1892.36**
 | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2018-11-02 16:26 EDT-0400 |

 

How does this look?

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($309.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: RAIJINTEK - AIDOS 48.6 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($21.34 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370P D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($124.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($82.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.50 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Mini Video Card  ($704.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 275R Tempered Glass Newegg Edition ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Rosewill - Capstone 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Dell - S2417DG 23.8" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($379.99 @ Dell) 
Keyboard: Logitech - G413 Silver Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($54.95 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Logitech - G403 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse  ($42.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1975.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-02 22:49 EDT-0400

[Gomojoe]

What maintenance issues are there with liquid coolers?

 

[onanotherlevell]

1 hour ago, Gomojoe said:

What maintenance issues are there with liquid coolers?

 

First and foremost: You have to refill the reservoir, and if anything goes wrong (corrosion, leaking, etc) that's just more money spent. AIO's for the CPU only like the Corsair H100i v2 are mostly safe from those issues and require no maintenance.

[onanotherlevell]

Here's what I think would work for you:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$339.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler	Corsair - H100i v2 70.69 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$94.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$209.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory	$104.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 970 Evo 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$86.95 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$58.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB Turbo OC Video Card	$459.99 @ Newegg
Case	Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case	$69.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$69.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor	Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor	$191.99 @ B&H
Keyboard	Corsair - STRAFE RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard	$89.99 @ Amazon
Mouse	Logitech - G502 Proteus Spectrum Wired Optical Mouse	$34.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1832.64
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$1812.64
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-19 17:03 EST-0500

 

This rig would be 1080p 144hz or 1440p 60hz capable on Ultra settings for many AAA games, and has a bit of RGB so that your son can "taste the rainbow"

Unlocked chip if your son wants to overclock later, and an M.2 boot drive with a 2TB main storage. Just swap out the Monitor if your son isn't playing fast paced games.

 

 

 

[Gomojoe]

So after you realizing that you guys were using pcpartpicker I went on there and end up getting him the all the stuff from their "Magnificent Intel Gaming Guide."  Guess I am spoiling him a bit as ended up going over budget.  I appreciate all of the advise.  Thank you.