Gaming CPU Needed

[lmeneses]

Ok, it may seem like a uneven comparison, but between the two r5 2600 vs i7-7700k , where price is irrelevant, which is the better option? I do plan for mostly gaming, but I do want to try streaming and use programs for aerospace engineering (which programs are undetermined). Also, with the 7700k being a cuad-core, will that severely affect me in the future since I plan on keeping this build for at least 5 years. 

[Fasauceome]

7700k is better. However, price is always relevant, since if you're rich enough not to care, you'd get a coffee lake CPU. Quad core with hyperthreading is better than just quad core, such as the classic i5.

[Cereal5]

Right now, I would say it's a toss up. The 7700K will be better for gaming, but the 2600 will do better in CPU heavy workloads. In 5 years, yeah you might be limited by 4 cores, you might not. People say games are using more cores these days (which is true), but we're up to probably an average of 2.5 cores from the 1-2 cores a few years ago. Neither CPU will be great in 5 years (most likely), however they should still be fine. You can game and do all that on any computer, it's just a matter of how well it does. Even old Xeons and like i7-2600Ks still game just fine.

 

I think it matters most on how much of each thing you'll be doing. If you're gonna be doing 70%+ gaming or so, I'd get the 7700K. If it's more like 50/50, I'd go R5 2600. But like I said, either will be fine. Getting the 2600 will also give you an upgrade path to at least the 2700(X), possibly more if AMD keeps their word on using the AM4 platform for years to come

[lmeneses]

9 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

7700k is better. However, price is always relevant, since if you're rich enough not to care, you'd get a coffee lake CPU. Quad core with hyperthreading is better than just quad core, such as the classic i5.

I should've been clearer, I mean the price between the 2600 and the 7700k is irrelevant atm. Also, you mean the 7700k has hyperthreading?

8 minutes ago, Cereal5 said:

Right now, I would say it's a toss up. The 7700K will be better for gaming, but the 2600 will do better in CPU heavy workloads. In 5 years, yeah you might be limited by 4 cores, you might not. People say games are using more cores these days (which is true), but we're up to probably an average of 2.5 cores from the 1-2 cores a few years ago. Neither CPU will be great in 5 years (most likely), however they should still be fine. You can game and do all that on any computer, it's just a matter of how well it does. Even old Xeons and like i7-2600Ks still game just fine.

  

I think it matters most on how much of each thing you'll be doing. If you're gonna be doing 70%+ gaming or so, I'd get the 7700K. If it's more like 50/50, I'd go R5 2600. But like I said, either will be fine. Getting the 2600 will also give you an upgrade path to at least the 2700(X), possibly more if AMD keeps their word on using the AM4 platform for years to come

Hmm, tough decisions but what you said about being able to upgrade with a ryzen cpu is a good point

[Cereal5]

3 minutes ago, lmeneses said:

I should've been clearer, I mean the price between the 2600 and the 7700k is irrelevant atm. Also, you mean the 7700k has hyperthreading?

Hmm, tough decisions but what you said about being able to upgrade with a ryzen cpu is a good point

Yeah, the 7700K is as good as it gets on Z270. You might be able to get like a 6 core Xeon, but those will likely be expensive since they're still pretty new, and almost all don't support overclocking (with basically no way to find out if they do).

[lmeneses]

18 minutes ago, Cereal5 said:

Yeah, the 7700K is as good as it gets on Z270. You might be able to get like a 6 core Xeon, but those will likely be expensive since they're still pretty new, and almost all don't support overclocking (with basically no way to find out if they do).

Are there any real negatives about getting a z270 board cause I may be able to get the 7700k and a z270 mobo for quite cheap

[Cereal5]

4 minutes ago, lmeneses said:

Are there any real negatives about getting a z270 board cause I may be able to get the 7700k and a z270 mobo for quite cheap

Uh... It's not the newest stuff out there, but that's about it. It's not about the negatives of the board or the CPU, it's about comparing it to the other option. Both Z370 and B450/X470 are fine boards, they support basically the same stuff.

[lmeneses]

5 minutes ago, Cereal5 said:

Uh... It's not the newest stuff out there, but that's about it. It's not about the negatives of the board or the CPU, it's about comparing it to the other option. Both Z370 and B450/X470 are fine boards, they support basically the same stuff.

Ok, thanks for the info!

[Fasauceome]

1 hour ago, lmeneses said:

Also, you mean the 7700k has hyperthreading?

Yes, it does, so compared to a core i5 (4 cores, 4 threads) the i7 has more (4 cores 8 threads)

[Coachdude]

The i7 7700K will be the superior gaming processor, it is about equivalent to the modern Intel Core i5 Coffee Lake processors, which are pure 6 core cpus (6 cores, 6 threads ). The Ryzen 5 2600 will be a bit weaker in gaming, but it does have those two additional cores and four more threads, which will make a difference in more cpu bound scenarios, such as streaming, rendering, etc. If you don't mind me asking, how much would you be paying for both of the processors and their respective platforms? If they are similar in price, I'd honestly choose the Ryzen platform over the Z270 platform and i7 7700K due to the future upgrade path promised by the AM4 socket.

 

Bottom line, the i7 7700K will beat out the Ryzen in pure gaming workloads, and if you're running things like emulators, ( PCSX2, Higan, Cemu, etc. ) It will be noticeable faster in some of those tasks. However, anything that can leverage the extra cores the Ryzen processor provides will obviously be faster on that. I currently have an Intel Core i7 6700K @ 4.6GHz ( Same processor essentially as the i7 7700K ) and it performs wonderfully in all of the tasks I do, granted most of those are gaming oriented, with occasional Photoshop and video editing workloads, but those are minor. I don't think you'll be disappointed by other processor really, it just depends on what you're going to be doing with either and how much of said workloads you will spend more time doing. If you're going to be mostly gaming, I'd say the i7 is probably going to be able to stretch it's legs a bit more. However, rendering, 3d modeling, development work, virtual machines, anything that can use those extra cores of the Ryzen and it may very well be wiser to consider that instead.

[lmeneses]

6 hours ago, Coachdude said:

If you don't mind me asking, how much would you be paying for both of the processors and their respective platforms?

I do not know yet, but I may be able to get the Intel platform for quite a bit cheaper