Missing Ram not showing up.

[WarOfGenesis]

HI All 

 

My system is:  

ASUS M5A97 R2.0 motherboard 

Processor    AMD FX(tm)-4300 Quad-Core Processor, 3800 Mhz, 

Socket AM3+ (942)

BIOS Version/Date    American Megatrends Inc. 2603, 26/06/2015

CMX8GX3M2A1600C9 XMS3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600  - times 2 

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 (GP107) @ 1417 MHz

Microsoft Windows 10 (10.0) Professional 64-bit 

 

Built my System a while back, and I have been having issues with my ram or maybe it's me. 

I had brought 16gb of RAM at the, so I had brought CMX8GX3M2A1600C9 XMS3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600 for both my DIMM slots. 

but on my system, it shows up as only 8gb showing up?

 

 

I have updated my BIOS to the latest one, and nothing has changed.

I did also send the manufacturer (ASUS) an email about the motherboard  (it's out of warranty) but they can't help me or give me any solutions what so ever.  

(i have not sent Corsair an email as of yet)

 

But I on the BIOS and the OS it shows the physical memory installed as 

Slot #1 Module    Corsair 4096 MB (DDR3-1337) - XMP 1.2 - P/N: CMX8GX3M2A1600C9
Slot #2 Module    Corsair 4096 MB (DDR3-1337) - XMP 1.2 - P/N: CMX8GX3M2A1600C9

Total Size    8192 MB

 

any ideas?

 

[KarathKasun]

How many memory modules do you have?  That kit is 8gb total, not 8gb per stick.

[WarOfGenesis]

I have two modules, i have put each one in both DIMM slots 

[KarathKasun]

3 minutes ago, WarOfGenesis said:

I have two modules, i have put each one in both DIMM slots 

8gb is the correct total amount.

 

The kit is 8gb total, 2x 4gb modules.  The product name says as much.

[WarOfGenesis]

[KarathKasun]

Notice (2x4gb), the RAM is sold as a kit.  The kit is two 4gb modules, each module is 4gb.

[WarOfGenesis]

maybe it's me, but it's on each module its says 8gb (2x4gb).

 

so i should have 16gb showing up ?

[KarathKasun]

Just now, WarOfGenesis said:

maybe it's me, but it's on each module its says 8gb (2x4gb).

 

so i should have 16gb showing up ?

No.  That label is because its a kit.  8gb is the total capacity of the kit, because it includes 2x 4gb modules.

[WarOfGenesis]

oh ok, right I get it then. so it's me. getting confused here 

 

I was under the impression each module was 8gb each. 

[Tristerin]

2 minutes ago, WarOfGenesis said:

oh ok, right I get it then. so it's me. getting confused here 

 

I was under the impression each module was 8gb each. 

This is called a DUAL CHANNEL kit - its DUAL CHANNEL 8gb provided by 2 x 4 GB DUAL CHANNEL Ram sticks

[KarathKasun]

Just now, Tristerin said:

This is called a DUAL CHANNEL kit - its DUAL CHANNEL 8gb provided by 2 x 4 GB DUAL CHANNEL Ram sticks

This is not true.  If you install it into a single channel setup with two slots (which does exist for DDR3) its not dual channel.

[Tristerin]

3 minutes ago, KarathKasun said:

This is not true.  If you install it into a single channel setup with two slots (which does exist for DDR3) its not dual channel.

I mean you are wrong, but sure.  Its literally called the Corsair XMS3 DUAL CHANNEL kit.  Its meant to be sold as, and installed as (to meet its performance charts I am sure) DUAL channel.

[KarathKasun]

2 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

I mean you are wrong, but sure.  Its literally called the Corsair XMS3 DUAL CHANNEL kit.  Its meant to be sold as, and installed as (to meet its performance charts I am sure) DUAL channel.

I mean, you are wrong, but whatever floats your boat.  This is the name as listed on the manufacturers website....

 

XMS3 — 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz C9 Memory Kit

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Memory/XMS3-—-8GB-(2x4GB)-DDR3-1600MHz-C9-Memory-Kit/p/CMX8GX3M2A1600C9

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, KarathKasun said:

I mean, you are wrong, but whatever floats your boat.  This is the name as listed on the manufacturers website....

 

XMS3 — 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz C9 Memory Kit

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Memory/XMS3-—-8GB-(2x4GB)-DDR3-1600MHz-C9-Memory-Kit/p/CMX8GX3M2A1600C9

Wrong again, from your own source.  Not trying to argue but wtf are you trying to prove.

 

[Tristerin]

Are you trying to say, or prove, that it can run single channel, that individually these are capable of single channel sticks?  I mean...duh?  Its not just a thing for DDR3 lol.  When DDR4 prices were dumb I bought a single, DUAL CHANNEL stick, to get my new rig to boot and once the prices leveled I bought the second, single, DUAL CHANNEL stick to compliment it correctly.

[KarathKasun]

Just now, Tristerin said:

Are you trying to say, or prove, that it can run single channel, that individually these are capable of single channel sticks?  I mean...duh?  Its not just a thing for DDR3 lol.  When DDR4 prices were dumb I bought a single, DUAL CHANNEL stick, to get my new rig to boot and once the prices leveled I bought the second, single, DUAL CHANNEL stick to compliment it correctly.

What are you even saying here?

 

There is not a single module that is dual channel, all memory modules are the same (generally speaking) and can be used in any configuration of channels.  You can buy them in packs that generally correspond to the number of channels in contemporary systems, but that is it.  For dual/triple/quad channel you just need modules with the same timings.

 

Now you just sound uninformed.

[Tristerin]

Just now, KarathKasun said:

What are you even saying here?

 

There is not a single module that is dual channel, all memory modules are the same (generally speaking) and can be used in any configuration of channels.  You can buy them in packs that generally correspond to the number of channels in contemporary systems, but that is it.  For dual/triple/quad channel you just need modules with the same timings.

 

Now you just sound uninformed.

So you challenged my post - I called it a Dual Channel Kit.  WTF else is it bruh?  Because...It is.  Regardless of how you want to interpret it lol.  I mean, Amazon, Newegg, Corsair call it a DUAL CHANNEL kit.  Maybe you think I am specifying that it makes it special.  I am trying to inform the OP that its 8gb provided over DUAL CHANNELS. 

 

But alas, this has taken more time of mine than I care.  You sound like you just want to challenge something.

[KarathKasun]

5 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

I am trying to inform the OP that its 8gb provided over DUAL CHANNELS

You mean two modules.  Memory is not aware of the number of memory buses in a system.  It is sold in a kit that is intended for dual channel, but can be used in a way that is not dual channel.  In the same way that a kit intended for quad channel can be used in a dual channel system that has two slots per bus.

[TechyBen]

11 minutes ago, KarathKasun said:

What are you even saying here?

 

There is not a single module that is dual channel, all memory modules are the same (generally speaking) and can be used in any configuration of channels.  You can buy them in packs that generally correspond to the number of channels in contemporary systems, but that is it.  For dual/triple/quad channel you just need modules with the same timings.

 

Now you just sound uninformed.

Hahaha, they got DDR, and Dual channel confused.

 

I agree it's POOR marketing/labelling though, it should read "One of 4GB. Total 8GB kit, 2x4." I got annoyed at how many ebay sellers do this wrong, and got 6gb turn up one day labelled as "24GB". Lol, posted that back ASAP.

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, KarathKasun said:

You mean two modules.  Memory is not aware of the number of memory buses in a system.  It is sold in a kit that is intended for dual channel, but can be used in a way that is not dual channel.  In the same way that a kit intended for quad channel can be used in a dual channel system that has two slots per bus.

 

33 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

This is called a DUAL CHANNEL kit - its DUAL CHANNEL 8gb provided by 2 x 4 GB DUAL CHANNEL Ram sticks

 

31 minutes ago, KarathKasun said:

This is not true.  If you install it into a single channel setup with two slots (which does exist for DDR3) its not dual channel.

You are literally challenging the last words here:

33 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

provided by 2 x 4 GB DUAL CHANNEL Ram sticks

 

So by all means, I should have used the word MODULE at the end there.

 

Its 8 gb provided over 2 DUAL CHANNEL Slots provided by 2 x 4 GB Ram Modules - does that make this feel so much better?  Im sure OP here has an high enough understanding of RAM that he has to ask this sort of question to begin with so we should convolute it as much as possible.  Muh bad.

 

 

[TechyBen]

"DUAL CHANNEL Ram sticks" don't exist.

[Tristerin]

Just now, TechyBen said:

"DUAL CHANNEL Ram sticks" don't exist.

Bruh, was trying to help the OP understand why it said 8 2x4 - He is absolutely lamens terms.  I mean his post should tell you that much.

 

Sorry for not having the exact wordage used that makes you feel better - but I bet the OP understood clearly what I said in terms he can understand.

[TechyBen]

Dual channel kits or boxes of RAM sticks exist. Labels show barcodes and names. The Razor Laptop does not shave beards.

 

PS, you also, multiple times, said your DDR4 single stick is a "dual channel stick", it is not. It is dual channel compatible (all are, but they will list it on some boxes).

 

Your not totally wrong, you're just saying "my car is an alloy wheeled engine". It has an engine, it has alloy wheels, but the engine is not an alloy wheeled engine. XD

[Tristerin]

5 minutes ago, TechyBen said:

Dual channel kits or boxes of RAM sticks exist. Labels show barcodes and names. The Razor Laptop does not shave beards.

 

PS, you also, multiple times, said your DDR4 single stick is a "dual channel stick", it is not. It is dual channel compatible (all are, but they will list it on some boxes).

 

Your not totally wrong, you're just saying "my car is an alloy wheeled engine". It has an engine, it has alloy wheels, but the engine is not an alloy wheeled engine. XD

Like I said, sorry for not saying it perfectly - I am shadetree mechanic here.  But I know more than the OP, and I put it in terms he may understand.  That's 100% fine with me.  Glad I have a better, cleaner, understanding of the verbage I should use.

 

However when my wife asks me what I am doing under the hood of my car, or in the PC case - I don't explain it to her in technical terms, nor do I care much if she completely understands - as long as she gets the info she wants and moves on.  Like OP was looking to do.  So Im still okay with what I said.

[TechyBen]

OP already got 2 digits muddled on the label. They need specifics, not more error. We are working as a group to correct error. Why fight against that?

 

"To better understand" does not mean we don't give exact information. We then need to say "you have two 4gb sticks, totallying 8gb".

 

DDR 4 can be run in single, dual or quad channel IIRC. So, no, it's not a "dual channel" stick, it's a single/dual/quad channel setup or "kit/box/pack".