upgrade Upgrade MoBo?

[Teun_VV]

Im debating getting an upgrade for my MoBo. The current one I have only has one fan header and I’m not sure if I can split it. The current MoBo I have has 8x USB 2.0. and no built in WiFi. Basically any MoBo available will have more connections. Getting a new MoBo will also allow me to keep my old RAM. I will have to spend 80-100€ on it though. What’s your guys opinion? Worth it?

[TheGlenlivet]

1 minute ago, Teun_VV said:

Im debating getting an upgrade for my MoBo. The current one I have only has one fan header and I’m not sure if I can split it. The current MoBo I have has 8x USB 2.0. and no built in WiFi. Basically any MoBo available will have more connections. Getting a new MoBo will also allow me to keep my old RAM. I will have to spend 80-100€ on it though. What’s your guys opinion? Worth it?

What do you have now, and what are you looking at getting?

[Teun_VV]

4 minutes ago, TheGlenlivet said:

What do you have now, and what are you looking at getting?

A Fixconn HP Something. LGA1155. Bear with my while I pull up the model number. I’m not sure what I’m going to get but probably a gaming something. https://tweakers.net/categorie/47/moederborden/aanbod/#filter:q1YqKMpMTvVNrFCyMjQw0FEqLkhNdsvMKUktKlayqlYyNjcAUWWJOUpW0UomxpZmSrG1OkqGZsZIwobmFmBRcwsUUROgYG0tAA

[Teun_VV]

8 minutes ago, TheGlenlivet said:

What do you have now, and what are you looking at getting?

This:

[TheGlenlivet]

OK, and what are you looking at getting?  Just a heads up, new board won't use the DDR3 you have now.

[Teun_VV]

6 minutes ago, TheGlenlivet said:

OK, and what are you looking at getting?  Just a heads up, new board won't use the DDR3 you have now.

It won’t? Doesn’t that depend on the board?

[Tristerin]

6 minutes ago, TheGlenlivet said:

OK, and what are you looking at getting?  Just a heads up, new board won't use the DDR3 you have now.

Sounds like he wants a LGA 1155 socket mobo and just wants more options for his current mobo

 

21 minutes ago, Teun_VV said:

Im debating getting an upgrade for my MoBo. The current one I have only has one fan header and I’m not sure if I can split it. The current MoBo I have has 8x USB 2.0. and no built in WiFi. Basically any MoBo available will have more connections. Getting a new MoBo will also allow me to keep my old RAM. I will have to spend 80-100€ on it though. What’s your guys opinion? Worth it?

Yes you can put a fan splitter on that fan header.

 

You can also utilize the PSU to use a fan splitter like this:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIACJF7730777&cm_re=fan_splitter-_-1W7-005X-00042-_-Product

 

The prebuilts usually have decent mobo's are you wanting USB 3?

 

[TheGlenlivet]

4 minutes ago, Teun_VV said:

It won’t? Doesn’t that depend on the board?

It depends how new you are going.  Starting with Z170 for intel, they phased out DDR3.  I think there were a few very early z170 that used it but after that it was all ddr4.

As said above, you can go to a NEWER board, just not brand new.

[Tristerin]

 

2 minutes ago, Teun_VV said:

It won’t? Doesn’t that depend on the board?

OP - check my sig, I have an HP PRO 6300 MT I use with an i5 3470.  I, like you, want to expand as much as possible on this mobo since I got it for next to nothing.

 

I have that fan splitter linked in case I want to add more fans (haven't yet)

I use a USB Header splitter for 4 additional USB headers

For USB 3.0 headers you can get a PCIEx1 slot PCB with that, and other fancy connections on it if that's what you are missing.

 

You should utilize add on cards in those free PCIEx1 slots.  That will give you more board functionality.  On mine I use a Rosewill USB 5 port hub with +1 internal in my PCI lane.  I use a ASUS AC55BT wifi/BT card in an x1 slot.  I have a free PCIEx1 slot, and would use that for more SATA ports and USB 3 ports...but I don't need them (my board has 1 free USB 3 port still and don't NEED another SATA yet)

[Teun_VV]

1 minute ago, Tristerin said:

 

OP - check my sig, I have an HP PRO 6300 MT I use with an i5 3470.  I, like you, want to expand as much as possible on this mobo since I got it for next to nothing.

 

I have that fan splitter linked in case I want to add more fans (haven't yet)

I use a USB Header splitter for 4 additional USB headers

For USB 3.0 headers you can get a PCIEx1 slot PCB with that, and other fancy connections on it if that's what you are missing.

 

You should utilize add on cards in those free PCIEx1 slots.  That will give you more board functionality.  On mine I use a Rosewill USB 5 port hub with +1 internal in my PCI lane.  I use a ASUS AC55BT wifi/BT card in an x1 slot.  I have a free PCIEx1 slot, and would use that for more SATA ports and USB 3 ports...but I don't need them (my board has 1 free USB 3 port still and don't NEED another SATA yet)

Oh okay, I will sue that then. Thanks for the heads up! 

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, Teun_VV said:

Oh okay, I will sue that then. Thanks for the heads up! 

The problem (I thought I would just upgrade the HP mobo and case with my other spare parts lying around) is for replacing this board is very little options. (due to the market)  You buy used for way to much (over $100 usd), or buy a replacement OEM refurb board (ew). 

 

I found that filling up all my expansion slots is wayyy cheaper, more fun and gives my TV tower some neat options - plus I have these cards in the future if I need them.

 

I also only by things on sale, refurbed etc for these little side projects.  Ive only had one bad Refurb issue with newegg.

[Teun_VV]

7 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

The problem (I thought I would just upgrade the HP mobo and case with my other spare parts lying around) is for replacing this board is very little options. (due to the market)  You buy used for way to much (over $100 usd), or buy a replacement OEM refurb board (ew). 

 

I found that filling up all my expansion slots is wayyy cheaper, more fun and gives my TV tower some neat options - plus I have these cards in the future if I need them.

 

I also only by things on sale, refurbed etc for these little side projects.  Ive only had one bad Refurb issue with newegg.

My processor only has 16 pcie lanes apparently. Will a fan hub thingy affect my performance? I want to put in a new gpu too. (I7 3770)

[Tristerin]

8 minutes ago, Teun_VV said:

My processor only has 16 pcie lanes apparently. Will a fan hub thingy affect my performance? I want to put in a new gpu too. (I7 3770)

I looked up that board, I showed it only supported up to i7 2xxx series.

https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c02978278

Socket type: LGA 1155

• TDP: 35W up to 95W (processor dependent)
• Motherboard supports the following processor upgrades:
  • Core i3-2xxx/T dual core
  • Core i3-2xxx dual core
  • Core i5-2xxx quad core
  • Core i7-2xxx quad core
  • Core G5xx/T dual core
  • Core G6xx/T dual core

BTW the i5 2400 isn't a bad CPU is comparable to my i5 3470 and uses less power.

 

Don't worry about the lanes, I mean the physical PCIE x1 slots and the larger slot you have is for a GPU. (PCIEx16)  You could essentially put in an ASUS AC55BT (like mine) in one slot which gives you AC1200 Wifi and Bluetooth Connectivity.  Put in a USB 3.0 header PCB plus USB 3.0 outputs on the rear card in another PCIEx1 slot.  In the final slot you could put...well tbh they make everything and anything you would want.  You just have to be creative in looking it up, and not just using newegg etc.  I find the most exotic PCB's to be on Ebay or overseas sellers.

 

The fan hub linked will connect to your fan header on the mobo (which is to signal the fans to turn on/off/what RPM) and will also take a SATA power connection to power the fans as your motherboard fan header wouldn't support that much power draw.  Wont touch your CPU.

 

*EDIT, Im at work but that's not saying you couldn't get an upgrade bios from HP that would support the next gen CPU's that accept LGA1155 sockets*

 

 

[Teun_VV]

5 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

I looked up that board, I showed it only supported up to i7 2xxx series.

https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c02978278

Socket type: LGA 1155

• TDP: 35W up to 95W (processor dependent)
• Motherboard supports the following processor upgrades:
  • Core i3-2xxx/T dual core
  • Core i3-2xxx dual core
  • Core i5-2xxx quad core
  • Core i7-2xxx quad core
  • Core G5xx/T dual core
  • Core G6xx/T dual core

BTW the i5 2400 isn't a bad CPU is comparable to my i5 3470 and uses less power.

 

Don't worry about the lanes, I mean the physical PCIE x1 slots and the larger slot you have is for a GPU. (PCIEx16)  You could essentially put in an ASUS AC55BT (like mine) in one slot which gives you AC1200 Wifi and Bluetooth Connectivity.  Put in a USB 3.0 header PCB plus USB 3.0 outputs on the rear card in another PCIEx1 slot.  In the final slot you could put...well tbh they make everything and anything you would want.  You just have to be creative in looking it up, and not just using newegg etc.  I find the most exotic PCB's to be on Ebay or overseas sellers.

 

The fan hub linked will connect to your fan header on the mobo (which is to signal the fans to turn on/off/what RPM) and will also take a SATA power connection to power the fans as your motherboard fan header wouldn't support that much power draw.  Wont touch your CPU.

 

 

And I looked at the product wrong it’s SATA powered not PCIE lol

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, Teun_VV said:

And I looked at the product wrong it’s SATA powered not PCIE lol

My advice, since Ive done very similar as you are looking to do - is research the CRAP out of what your mobo is capable of, what BIOS revision it has vs what the latest and greatest allows it to do.

 

I highly (only if you want to pay extra) recommend www.moddiy for the exotic add on cards.  Just usually priced as such (so always compare newegg/amazon/ebay etc)

 

Also, scour the interwebs for add-on cards.  They make..nearly everything lol...this is my next investment to play with when I want to open back up some of my other slots lol:

 

https://www.moddiy.com/products/Premium-All%2din%2d1-USB-{47}-SATA-{47}-Fan-Internal-Hub-Power-Splitter-PCB-Board.html