New PC

[Vek]

New pc time ? Im looking to build computer that will be for game development as well as some gaming. I’m not really experienced as far as hardware goes so I thank you for any feedback and suggestions. Oh and rgb doesn’t matter at all I’m looking for the greatest performance I can get and I’m interested in overclocking if I can( never done it before but I think I’m can manage it)

Is there anything I can improve or parts that you think  are better then what i’ve picked that I should go with instead?

1. Budget & Location

my max budget is $1500 and I live in the US

Parts

cpu: AMD ryzen 7 2700X -$319

cpu cooler: Cooler Master master liquid  ml240l rub liquid cpu cooler - $60

motherboard: Asus Strip B350-F gaming tax am4 motherboard -$115

ram: Corsair - vengeance 16gb DDR4 - $150

Memory: Samsung 970mEvo 250GB m.2 SSD. (-$98) & Seagate 2 TB ($60)

Gpu: 1080 ti (I’m looking to buy a used non overclocked one for around $500 ])

Case: Nzxt H500 atx mid tower ($70)

Psu: Evga supernova 750W Gold Certified modular tax power supply ($86)

OS: windows 10 home ($95)

total so far:

$1552

Monitors

I’m planning to have 2 in the future but im sticking with one for right now. My monitor right now is a 1080p monitor and for my second one I was looking at a a 1080p 144hz monitor but I won’t rule out 4K either

 

[Cereal5]

Here is a list of your build put together in pcpartpicker (without windows), just for easy reference:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor  ($318.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B450-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($104.65 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($97.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card  ($520.00) 
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($95.84 @ B&H) 
Total: $1416.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-15 05:27 EDT-0400

 

Take a look at kinguin.net for windows, keys can be had for ~$30. People argue the legitimacy of it lol but I've had no problem with mine. I would also encourage you to look at the 500GB 960 evo M.2 SSD, it is only about $50 more than the 250GB 960/256GB 970. Also, a B350 mobo might require a first gen ryzen chip in order for you to flash the BIOS to support a second gen chip, which is why I went ahead and changed the motherboard to a B450 ATX board.

[SHROUD]

1 hour ago, Vek said:

New pc time ? Im looking to build computer that will be for game development as well as some gaming. I’m not really experienced as far as hardware goes so I thank you for any feedback and suggestions. Oh and rgb doesn’t matter at all I’m looking for the greatest performance I can get and I’m interested in overclocking if I can( never done it before but I think I’m can manage it)

 

1. Budget & Location

my max budget is $1500 and I live in the US

Parts

cpu: AMD ryzen 7 2700X -$319

cpu cooler: Cooler Master master liquid  ml240l rub liquid cpu cooler - $60

motherboard: Asus Strip B350-F gaming tax am4 motherboard -$115

ram: Corsair - vengeance 16gb DDR4 - $150

Memory: Samsung 970mEvo 250GB m.2 SSD. (-$98) & Seagate 2 TB ($60)

Gpu: 1080 ti (I’m looking to buy a used non overclocked one for around $500 ])

Case: Nzxt H500 atx mid tower ($70)

Psu: Evga supernova 750W Gold Certified modular tax power supply ($86)

OS: windows 10 home ($95)

total so far:

$1552

Monitors

I’m planning to have 2 in the future but im sticking with one for right now. My monitor right now is a 1080p monitor and for my second one I was looking at a a 1080p 144hz monitor but I won’t rule out 4K either

 

Build something like this...

U can get it under $1500 if u manage to get a 1080ti fr about $500.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor  ($289.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($86.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty X470 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($97.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.39 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AORUS Video Card  ($654.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($75.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1625.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-15 05:59 EDT-0400

[m0n4rchy]

8 hours ago, Vek said:

New pc time ? Im looking to build computer that will be for game development as well as some gaming. I’m not really experienced as far as hardware goes so I thank you for any feedback and suggestions. Oh and rgb doesn’t matter at all I’m looking for the greatest performance I can get and I’m interested in overclocking if I can( never done it before but I think I’m can manage it)

Is there anything I can improve or parts that you think  are better then what i’ve picked that I should go with instead?

1. Budget & Location

my max budget is $1500 and I live in the US

Parts

cpu: AMD ryzen 7 2700X -$319

cpu cooler: Cooler Master master liquid  ml240l rub liquid cpu cooler - $60

motherboard: Asus Strip B350-F gaming tax am4 motherboard -$115

ram: Corsair - vengeance 16gb DDR4 - $150

Memory: Samsung 970mEvo 250GB m.2 SSD. (-$98) & Seagate 2 TB ($60)

Gpu: 1080 ti (I’m looking to buy a used non overclocked one for around $500 ])

Case: Nzxt H500 atx mid tower ($70)

Psu: Evga supernova 750W Gold Certified modular tax power supply ($86)

OS: windows 10 home ($95)

total so far:

$1552

Monitors

I’m planning to have 2 in the future but im sticking with one for right now. My monitor right now is a 1080p monitor and for my second one I was looking at a a 1080p 144hz monitor but I won’t rule out 4K either

 

Here are my suggestions:

 

CPU: The 2700X is a good CPU, but if you want to save money (and achieve about the same results!), you can go with a Ryzen 7 1700 and the Wraith Max cooler, which is basically the cooler included with the 2700X. Yes, you have to manually overclock to beat the 2700X, but you would save ~$70. Also, the cooler included with the 1700 can already reach about 3.5 GHz comfortably, from what I've heard.

 

CPU Cooler: Whether you go with the 2700X or the 1700, I'd recommend going with the stock cooler. They're high quality enough where it's totally fine to not buy a separate one.

 

Motherboard: Is SLI an interest to you? If yes, get a decent X470 motherboard. If not, get a decent B450 motherboard, like you selected. (FYI, B450 is basically just a slightly updated B350. Same with X470 compared to X370. Worth the little bit extra to not have to update your motherboard immediately.)

 

Memory: You chose 16GB, so I'm not going to increase that further. I will say this; the best memory kit for Ryzen is the 14 Latency, 3200 MHz, 2 x 8, Flare X memory kit from G.Skill.

 

Storage: I chose a $90 500 GB M.2 drive.

 

Graphics Card: If you can find a good quality 1080 TI for that low, then good for you; do that. However, if that doesn't work out, and you want to pay that price for a new GPU, you can get a 1080 for a little less than that.

 

Case: So long as it looks good and has all the things you want in a case, choose whatever case you want!

 

Power Supply: At this pricepoint, I'd go ABOVE 80+ Bronze, have it be fully modular, and have it be at least 550W... unless you're interested in SLI, as I mentioned, or you think you might get a crazy CPU in the future, like an i9 or a Threadripper. In that case, 850W.

 

And that's all! Have a great day.

[brob]

It would mean giving up overclocking, but I think you would get a much better development environment going with an i7-8700.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($279.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($36.40 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus - Prime H370-A/CSM ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($101.01 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($141.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: ADATA - XPG SX8200 480GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($131.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.39 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC2 Video Card  ($500.00) 
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.99 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($98.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1494.64
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-15 13:56 EDT-0400

[Vek]

17 hours ago, Cereal5 said:

Here is a list of your build put together in pcpartpicker (without windows), just for easy reference:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor  ($318.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B450-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($104.65 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($97.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card  ($520.00) 
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($95.84 @ B&H) 
Total: $1416.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-15 05:27 EDT-0400

 

Take a look at kinguin.net for windows, keys can be had for ~$30. People argue the legitimacy of it lol but I've had no problem with mine. I would also encourage you to look at the 500GB 960 evo M.2 SSD, it is only about $50 more than the 250GB 960/256GB 970. Also, a B350 mobo might require a first gen ryzen chip in order for you to flash the BIOS to support a second gen chip, which is why I went ahead and changed the motherboard to a B450 ATX board.

Thanks for your suggestion! I’ve been thinking hard about kingpin. My only issue with the site is that while it is legal sites like this are almost always the sellers are typically thief’s who steal credit cards and purchase a bunch of keys then sell them for quick profit. The ethicality is the only questiontionable part. If I decide on the ryzen processor I’ll definitely go with a b450 mobo so thank you ?

[Vek]

9 hours ago, brob said:

It would mean giving up overclocking, but I think you would get a much better development environment going with an i7-8700.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($279.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($36.40 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus - Prime H370-A/CSM ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($101.01 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($141.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: ADATA - XPG SX8200 480GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($131.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.39 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC2 Video Card  ($500.00) 
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.99 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($98.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1494.64
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-15 13:56 EDT-0400

Why do think an i7 would make a for a better development environment? I know it’s way better then and when it comes to gaming b/c on of its single threaded workloads being so much better but wouldn’t Ryzen be better for development b/c of the multithreaded performance as well as the greater number of cores especially when it comes to 3D modeling and making animations?

[m0n4rchy]

Just now, Vek said:

Why do think an i7 would make a for a better development environment? I know it’s way better then and when it comes to gaming b/c on of its single threaded workloads being so much better but wouldn’t Ryzen be better for development b/c of the multithreaded performance as well as the greater number of cores especially when it comes to 3D modeling and making animations?

An i7 is better for game development, because of the new threads introduced, thanks to hyperthreading. And it's not drastically more powerful than an i5 at gaming. In fact, an i7-8700 is about on par with an i5-8600K, at stock speeds. And yes, Ryzen is better for multitasking and/or CPU-intensive workloads, at the cost of a little bit of single-threaded performance, resulting in slightly lower framerates.

[brob]

Most development environments are lightly threaded. With few exceptions compilers and linkers are single threaded. CPU wise they behave somewhat like games. The big difference is storage. Games tend to do few loads and very small writes. Development involves a lot more i/o especially writes when compiling/building.

 

3D modeling and animation is also lightly threaded except for rendering. 

 

10 minutes ago, m0n4rchy said:

An i7 is better for game development, because of the new threads introduced, thanks to hyperthreading. And it's not drastically more powerful than an i5 at gaming. In fact, an i7-8700 is about on par with an i5-8600K, at stock speeds. And yes, Ryzen is better for multitasking and/or CPU-intensive workloads, at the cost of a little bit of single-threaded performance, resulting in slightly lower framerates.

A 2700X probably has better performance in workloads using more than 10-12 threads. Otherwise the higher IPC of an i7-8700 is likely going to win out.