CPU+MB upgrade

[Legindarie]

Hi,

Just some background info, i had an AMD Phenom x4 and had loads of issues with it. I upgraded 3 years ago to the i5 6500 and what a world of difference.

I dont really wanna go back to AMD so Intel is my favorite so far.

 

I recently decided that i want a better CPU for gaming.

First i was looking at the Ryzyen 5 2600 because of price/performance, i didnt look at the Intel 8th gen CPU's because i was pretty sure that it was so much more expensive like previous gen.

Today i realised that i wasnt all that bad, 225euro for a i5 8600 or 315euro for i7 8700.

 

Current rig:

Asus Maximus viii gene z170

i5 6500

Noctua NH-L9i  (temps around 65c max)

16gb DDR 4 2133mhz

MSI GTX 1060 6gb

 

What im looking at:

Asus ROG STRIX b360-g Gaming   - 102euros

i5 8600                                              - 225euros

i7 8700                                              - 315euros

 

All i do on it is play games and media consumption, both at the same time (youtube,twitch etc)

Games at 1080p(or1440p depends on title) Graphics option always tweaked for solid fps(75>)
 

My question is:

Is the i7 8700 worth it over the i5 8600?

Or is the i5 8600 enough for the upcoming years, or should i just upgrade for the 90 euros more?

 

Any input is welcome as i cant decide myself.

[seduce_me]

What resolution will you be playing games at? At 1080p the GPU is less of a bottleneck so you might want to spring for the i7-8700 if you wanted to but at 1440p or 4K you could put the extra cost towards a better GPU since it would matter more. IIRC, the i7-8700 is just a better binned i5-8600 so there should not be too much of a difference.

 

I'd recommend getting an i5-8600K / i7-8700K and a Z370 board with good VRMs if longevity is your priority. You can overclock it later if you want and keep your PC running as quickly in the future. 

VRM tier list:

[Legindarie]

2 hours ago, seduce_me said:

What resolution will you be playing games at? At 1080p the GPU is less of a bottleneck so you might want to spring for the i7-8700 if you wanted to but at 1440p or 4K you could put the extra cost towards a better GPU since it would matter more. IIRC, the i7-8700 is just a better binned i5-8600 so there should not be too much difference.

 

I'd recommend getting an i5-8600K and a Z370 board with good VRMs if longevity is your priority. You can overclock it later if you want and keep your PC running as quickly in the future. 

VRM tier list:

Thanks for commenting. I have very little knowledge about VRM's and im not at all interested in overclocking. 

Does the motherboard that i mentioned have good VRM? or how can i research this myself?

 

Because when i search for an ASUS z370 motherboard i come across this one: Asus ROG Strix Z370-G Gaming  which is pretty much the same except for the chipset. 
It's also 70 euros more.

[seduce_me]

19 minutes ago, Legindarie said:

Thanks for commenting. I have very little knowledge about VRM's and im not at all interested in overclocking. 

Does the motherboard that i mentioned have good VRM? or how can i research this myself?

 

Because when i search for an ASUS z370 motherboard i come across this one: Asus ROG Strix Z370-G Gaming  which is pretty much the same except for the chipset. 
It's also 70 euros more.

I would spend 10 euros more on the ASRock Fatal1ty K6 if you are using the same website: https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/1076833/asrock-fatal1ty-z370-gaming-k6.html

 

But you mentioned you are not interested in overclocking so a H370 or B360 motherboard would suffice. The VRM shouldn't matter in these cases since there is no overclock.

[Legindarie]

1 minute ago, seduce_me said:

I would spend 10 euros more on the ASRock Fatal1ty K6 if you are using the same website: https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/1076833/asrock-fatal1ty-z370-gaming-k6.html

Thanks for the link but i need a Micro ATX board. this is an ATX board.

[seduce_me]

Just now, Legindarie said:

Thanks for the link but i need a Micro ATX board. this is an ATX board.

I updated my post, if you are not interested in overclocking at all the B360 board in the OP would suffice.

[Legindarie]

Just now, seduce_me said:

I updated my post, if you are not interested in overclocking at all the B360 board in the OP would suffice.

Could you maybe explain to me when VRM is really important? I know it sets the correct voltages, and puts out the correct voltages. But when do i know the VRM is good or bad?

[seduce_me]

In short, better VRM implementations are more stable in voltage so in terms of overclocking a better VRM can translate to lower Vcore for the same clock speed hence more stable. Also, better VRM implementations are able to handle the higher power draw of overclocking that low-end ones can't. Personally, my i7-8700K at 5.3GHz draws about 120W on average at full load.

 

Here's a more technical and in-depth article that explains the benefits and what makes a good VRM:

http://cxzoid.blogspot.com/2015/04/what-makes-good-vrm.html

[Legindarie]

33 minutes ago, seduce_me said:

In short, better VRM implementations are more stable in voltage so in terms of overclocking a better VRM can translate to lower Vcore for the same clock speed hence more stable. Also, better VRM implementations are able to handle the higher power draw of overclocking that low-end ones can't. Personally, my i7-8700K at 5.3GHz draws about 120W on average at full load.

 

Here's a more technical and in-depth article that explains the benefits and what makes a good VRM:

http://cxzoid.blogspot.com/2015/04/what-makes-good-vrm.html

Thanks for the effort in commenting and doing a bit of research! i very much appreciate it!

Im gonna go for the ROG STRIX B360-G GAMING and the i5 8600 in the near future(end of the month probably)