EU build hurdles

[kaundere]

Greetings from the EU/Bulgaria,

 

I have recently decided to build a PC and now the GPU prices seem reasonable despite ram not budging at all.

 

I plan on using the PC for some video editing and rendering, playing some games and some other things that would utilize the GPU a bit more.

For now i have bought the EVGA 1080TI (11G-P4-6593-KR) for around 750 eur with vat and shipping. and i am planning on getting the 8700k for 355 eur.

The things im having difficulty are the motherboard, cooler and power supply.

For now i the parts i have been looking at are:

Motherboard: MSI Z270 tomahawk (100 eur)

Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid Lite 240 (57 eur)

Power Supply: Cooler Master V650 (105 eur)

Ram: Corsair Vengeance LPX  2 sticks of 8GB running at 2400Mhz dual channel (175 eur)

And the strangest part of this build is this: M.2 Samsung 850 EVO 1TB MZ-N5E1T0BW at the surprisingly low price of 150 eur.

 

The major hurdle that i was faced with is that importing anything outside the EU is awfully difficult because of the bureaucracy  and other silly taxes that add up, not to mention 15 days delivery time.

Then there are only a couple websites and sellers that ship outside Germany and the United Kingdom and a lot of products are not available here, for example its quite difficult to find economically viable DIY  water cooing supplies.

 

My main concerns are the motherboard, SSD and power supply. Frankly for me motherboards are a total mystery. Cheap one Expensive one whats the difference? For me an gigabit Ethernet port and good build quality is all that i need. The SSD's price seems suspiciously low, scouring the internet i found something about a driver and not wanting to work with PCIe, which is kinda illogical because its M.2. And what i know about power supplies is that their quality is measured by their weight.

 

Some background,

 

I have worked for some time in a IPS/computer repair shop, but that was mainly reinstall window XP, clean for the first time 10 year old pc's and reapply thermal paste. My responsibilities were to install fiber optic cables to the users, create electric panels and many other things. Ohh if you ever tough the pay was good well it will shock you to know the salary was 300 euro.

 

Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!

 

[GoldenLag]

The Z270 motherboard is not compatible with the 8700K. You will need a Z370 board to utilize the CPU. If you just run with an 8700 you can grab a B360 mobo

 

What is the purpose for this build? Gaming, streaming, productivity, etc

 

 

If need an SSD you can grab Crucial MX500 SSDs for quite cheap. They are good quality and often cost less than samsung equivelents (they 2,5inch SSDs)

[kaundere]

4 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

The Z270 motherboard is not compatible with the 8700K. You will need a Z370 board to utilize the CPU. If you just run with an 8700 you can grab a B360 mobo

 

What is the purpose for this build? Gaming, streaming, productivity, etc

 

 

If need an SSD you can grab Crucial MX500 SSDs for quite cheap. They are good quality and often cost less than samsung equivelents (they 2,5inch SSDs)

I have changed the motherboard with your suggestion.

 

The rig will be usually driving a 4k monitor at 60hz, with some moderate gaming and video editing, the other workloads would not pose a problem, no streaming is intended.

The SSD i mentioned is 35 eur cheaper compared to the Crucial MX500 1TB and there are no apparent benefits.  Other option is a 256 or 480 GB SSD with a 2 TB HDD

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, kaundere said:

I have changed the motherboard with your suggestion.

 

The rig will be usually driving a 4k monitor at 60hz, with some moderate gaming and video editing, the other workloads would not pose a problem, no streaming is intended.

The SSD i mentioned is 35 eur cheaper compared to the Crucial MX500 1TB and there are no apparent benefits.  Other option is a 256 or 480 GB SSD with a 2 TB HDD

What software are you using for video editing?

 

Ok, the crucial is usually cheaper, but nice to see youve gotten a good deal ok the Evo SSD

[kaundere]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

What software are you using for video editing?

 

Ok, the crucial is usually cheaper, but nice to see youve gotten a good deal ok the Evo SSD

I use Sony Vegas for the general editing, and adobe after effects. I am also looking into migrating from Sony Vegas into Adobe Premiere.

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, kaundere said:

I use Sony Vegas for the general editing, and adobe after effects. I am also looking into migrating from Sony Vegas into Adobe Premiere.

If you are sticking to Sony Vegas i recommend taking a look at the Ryzen 7 2700x with a X470 mobo. If you are going to adobe suite the 8700k will be better

[kaundere]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

If you are sticking to Sony Vegas i recommend taking a look at the Ryzen 7 2700x with a X470 mobo. If you are going to adobe suite the 8700k will be better

That settles it, a full migration to the adobe ecosystem will be in place.

Do you consider with the mentioned cooler some overclocking would be possible, scouring the internet i could not find any benchmarks with the 8700k.

[GoldenLag]

Just now, kaundere said:

That settles it, a full migration to the adobe ecosystem will be in place.

Do you consider with the mentioned cooler some overclocking would be possible, scouring the internet i could not find any benchmarks with the 8700k.

Dont have details about that specific AIO. If you want an Aircooler take a look at the Dark Rock 4 from bequiet. If you want to look a bit into ram clearance you can take a look at the Nh-d14 from Noctua or Dark Rock Pro 4 from Bequiet. They are more or less the two best aircoolers on the market and perform similarly or better than some AIOs

 

I also forgot to mention i recommend grabbing 3000/3200mhz Ram. It will boost performance a little bit for a linor cost. 

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, kaundere said:

That settles it, a full migration to the adobe ecosystem will be in place.

The 2700x might get better at adobe suite in the future. But Adobe's track record for optimizing for AMD and multicore workøoads isnt great

[kaundere]

6 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Dont have details about that specific AIO. If you want an Aircooler take a look at the Dark Rock 4 from bequiet. If you want to look a bit into ram clearance you can take a look at the Nh-d14 from Noctua or Dark Rock Pro 4 from Bequiet. They are more or less the two best aircoolers on the market and perform similarly or better than some AIOs

 

I also forgot to mention i recommend grabbing 3000/3200mhz Ram. It will boost performance a little bit for a linor cost. 

Upgraded to the 3000Mhz version of the same brand of RAM with a marginal price increase. Also strongly considering the Dark Rock Pro 4.

 

3 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

The 2700x might get better at adobe suite in the future. But Adobe's track record for optimizing for AMD and multicore workøoads isnt great

Video editing and rendering is occasional, most important for me is scrubbing through the footage is seamless and motion tracking not as difficult.

The purpose of the rig is dual, work as in programming and recreational as in some gaming and occasional video creation. Speed of rendering is not that important for me because i am not in a rush to upload something. One problem might be that the raw footage would be in 4k. (it would be rendered in 1080p)