overwatch gaming pc

[Shyam Ganapathy]

I want to build a gaming pc for one of my friends and I need some help planning out the parts. His budget is 700 - 750 with no accessories (monitor,os,periphirals)

he wants to play overwatch at 1080p 144hz but overwatch isn't a gpu heavy game and im pretty sure its more cpu speed and ram heavy. Not sure where to go for that, but he only plays overwatch, and rocket league but he might get into gta v. Any help is apreciatted

[jiyeon]

750 what? What country?

[Shyam Ganapathy]

Just now, seoz said:

750 what? What country?

USD, United States

[KingArchlich]

Realistically speaking, you dont need much to play Overwatch at a good quality. However...connection quality is a big thing with it. A $500 will be enough for just overwatch.

[KingArchlich]

Hate to double but honestly speaking, if he is aiming for 1080p and 144hz the monitor would probably cost more than what type of GPU he would need for OW.

[Shyam Ganapathy]

1 minute ago, KingArchlich said:

Realistically speaking, you dont need much to play Overwatch at a good quality. However...connection quality is a big thing with it. A $500 will be enough for just overwatch.

Great, but that still dosen't solve my problem. I literally have no idea on what to recommend to him.

[KingArchlich]

If he is sticking to low cost, an AMD cpu, any 500w psu, a $200-300 gpu, any case and mobo of your choice and 8gb ram. That would be roughly $550-$675. You can choose the intel route but that is another rabbit hole..

[jiyeon]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LdnFKB
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LdnFKB/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.79 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($29.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - H310I PRO Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($78.26 @ Walmart) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($85.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card  ($169.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: BitFenix - Nova ATX Mid Tower Case  ($45.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $694.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-02 19:03 EDT-0400

 

This is what I've come up with. Just under $700. From my experience, Overwatch and Rocket League do not need much CPU & GPU power at all to run at high settings, so a 1050 Ti will suffice.

As for CPU, the 8400 is a tried-and-true CPU from my friend whom plays Overwatch and CSGO and has no trouble with it.

[seon123]

3 minutes ago, KingArchlich said:

If he is sticking to low cost, an AMD cpu, any 500w psu, a $200-300 gpu, any case and mobo of your choice and 8gb ram. That would be roughly $550-$675. You can choose the intel route but that is another rabbit hole..

For gaming, the 8400 performs better than Ryzen, 500W is overkill, and there are plenty of crappy PSUs out there. 

 

15 minutes ago, Shyam Ganapathy said:

-snip-

Compromised a bit on storage. This one assumes they'll use the rebates. 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.79 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B360-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($139.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($53.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB ARMOR OC Video Card  ($229.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Thermaltake - Core G21 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $747.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-02 19:10 EDT-0400

[Shyam Ganapathy]

5 minutes ago, seon123 said:

For gaming, the 8400 performs better than Ryzen, 500W is overkill, and there are plenty of crappy PSUs out there. 

 

Compromised a bit on storage. This one assumes they'll use the rebates. 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.79 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B360-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($139.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($53.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB ARMOR OC Video Card  ($229.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Thermaltake - Core G21 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $747.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-02 19:10 EDT-0400

are you sure a r5 1600 with a nice cooler isnt a better idea?

[KingArchlich]

4 minutes ago, seon123 said:

For gaming, the 8400 performs better than Ryzen, 500W is overkill, and there are plenty of crappy PSUs out there. 

 

Compromised a bit on storage. This one assumes they'll use the rebates. 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.79 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B360-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($139.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($53.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB ARMOR OC Video Card  ($229.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Thermaltake - Core G21 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $747.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-02 19:10 EDT-0400

He can cheap out on the ram a bit. Unless he plans on overclocking anything over 2600 is kinda unnecessary. Personally I would rather see the guy spend a bit more to get a zen 5 2600 and get keep stock cooler but that is just a personal choice.

[seon123]

1 minute ago, Shyam Ganapathy said:

are you sure a r5 1600 with a nice cooler isnt a better idea?

For just gaming, yes. It would however make it $50 cheaper, which equates either a 1-2TB HDD or an upgrade to a 500GB SSD. 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($139.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($53.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB ARMOR OC Video Card  ($229.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Thermaltake - Core G21 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $687.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-02 19:20 EDT-0400

[seon123]

1 minute ago, KingArchlich said:

He can cheap out on the ram a bit. Unless he plans on overclocking anything over 2600 is kinda unnecessary. Personally I would rather see the guy spend a bit more to get a zen 5 2600 and get keep stock cooler but that is just a personal choice.

That's the second cheapest RAM kit. The $10 cheaper one is a 2133 kit. I know the locked Intel chipsets only allow for max 2666MHz. 

The stock cooler on the 2600 is the Ryzen 3 Stealth 65W cooler. Not a good one, though better than Intel's paperweight. 

The 2600 would cost less than the 8400. 

[KingArchlich]

Any chance we can talk about your friends monitor choice? Seems a bit odd to be set on the 1080 and 144hz.

[Shyam Ganapathy]

7 minutes ago, KingArchlich said:

Any chance we can talk about your friends monitor choice? Seems a bit odd to be set on the 1080 and 144hz.

why is that odd? he's normally playing fps games where it actually helps

[Shyam Ganapathy]

13 minutes ago, seon123 said:

For just gaming, yes. It would however make it $50 cheaper, which equates either a 1-2TB HDD or an upgrade to a 500GB SSD. 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($139.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($53.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB ARMOR OC Video Card  ($229.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Thermaltake - Core G21 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $687.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-02 19:20 EDT-0400

seems good! I think I'll suggest this to him but lemme check with other people for now.

 

[Dryden]

24 minutes ago, Shyam Ganapathy said:

seems good! I think I'll suggest this to him but lemme check with other people for now.

 

-yeah that build by seon looks solid. 

-pcpartpicker doesn't always have the best available prices in real-time so shop around to save a few bucks. 

-the RX 580 is a nice choice.  your friend can buy a good 1080p 144hz monitor w/ Freesync

-SSD prices have been fallen pretty steadily this year.  look for good 480GB+ SSD deals

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3293920/computers/the-500gb-wd-blue-ssd-one-of-our-favorite-ssds-is-on-sale-for-its-lowest-price-yet.html

 

[Shyam Ganapathy]

22 hours ago, Dryden said:

-yeah that build by seon looks solid. 

-pcpartpicker doesn't always have the best available prices in real-time so shop around to save a few bucks. 

-the RX 580 is a nice choice.  your friend can buy a good 1080p 144hz monitor w/ Freesync

-SSD prices have been fallen pretty steadily this year.  look for good 480GB+ SSD deals

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3293920/computers/the-500gb-wd-blue-ssd-one-of-our-favorite-ssds-is-on-sale-for-its-lowest-price-yet.html

 

actually if I can find a 980ti for cheap should I go for that?

[Dryden]

4 hours ago, Shyam Ganapathy said:

actually if I can find a 980ti for cheap should I go for that?

Maybe... I'd worry though about getting a used cheap GPU, because you don't know if it's been abused heavily in crypto-mining... unless the seller explicitly tells you it was used in that way.

 

Nvidia card prices will probably start falling even more in the next month or so... and AMD cards will follow suit.... Next gen Nvidia cards:

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-gpu-release-date-rumors-2018,37391.html

[Shyam Ganapathy]

I'm still deciding on the gpu but my cousin has one of those strix 980's and is willing to give me one for 190. He dosent do mining or anything just light gaming,  but is upgrading, so I know its gonna work. Other than that, hows this build? Anything thats manually entered is stuff from micro center because pcpcartpicker dosent detect that.  https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vbq2bX

[Dryden]

1 hour ago, Shyam Ganapathy said:

I'm still deciding on the gpu but my cousin has one of those strix 980's and is willing to give me one for 190. He dosent do mining or anything just light gaming,  but is upgrading, so I know its gonna work. Other than that, hows this build? Anything thats manually entered is stuff from micro center because pcpcartpicker dosent detect that.  https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vbq2bX

Build looks good.  yeah for playing Overwatch or games with similar requirements @1080p, the strix 980 will do fine.  

Based on userbenchmarks, GTX 980 performance is similar to GTX 1060 6gb http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-980-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB/2576vs3639

and new 1060's are still selling around $270+

 

I miss "cheap" ram.  i'd suggest 16GB but 8GB now and get another stick (similar speed, timings, voltage... same preferably) later if needed.  Adding another 8GB adds $70-100

 

Getting the Asus - CROSSHAIR VI HERO ATX AM4 Motherboard AND the R5 1600 together for $240... nice!   Getting them separately would cost over $300 using pcpartpicker.  

    

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - CROSSHAIR VI HERO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($173.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $323.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-04 14:30 EDT-0400

[Shyam Ganapathy]

On 8/4/2018 at 2:20 PM, Dryden said:

performance is similar to GTX 1060 6gb http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX

 

On 8/4/2018 at 2:20 PM, Dryden said:

Build looks good.  yeah for playing Overwatch or games with similar requirements @1080p, the strix 980 will do fine.  

Based on userbenchmarks, GTX 980 performance is similar to GTX 1060 6gb http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-980-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB/2576vs3639

and new 1060's are still selling around $270+

 

I miss "cheap" ram.  i'd suggest 16GB but 8GB now and get another stick (similar speed, timings, voltage... same preferably) later if needed.  Adding another 8GB adds $70-100

 

Getting the Asus - CROSSHAIR VI HERO ATX AM4 Motherboard AND the R5 1600 together for $240... nice!   Getting them separately would cost over $300 using pcpartpicker.  

    

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - CROSSHAIR VI HERO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($173.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $323.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-04 14:30 EDT-0400

Yeah thats what I was thinking. A gtx 1060 would be nice but I want to sli 980's down the line and 1060's dont. I also found that combo deal on microcenter which seemed too good to be true, since almost all of that price is from the cpu and that motherboard is VERY nice.

[Dryden]

7 minutes ago, Shyam Ganapathy said:

 

Yeah thats what I was thinking. A gtx 1060 would be nice but I want to sli 980's down the line and 1060's dont. I also found that combo deal on microcenter which seemed too good to be true, since almost all of that price is from the cpu and that motherboard is VERY nice.

I don't know the how many games have support for SLI, guessing not many, and I'm not so confident many upcoming/future games will provide support for SLI. it's something to consider if you seriously want to get another 980. Good luck!

[AnTicXz]

On 8/2/2018 at 7:03 PM, KingArchlich said:

If he is sticking to low cost, an AMD cpu, any 500w psu, a $200-300 gpu, any case and mobo of your choice and 8gb ram. That would be roughly $550-$675. You can choose the intel route but that is another rabbit hole..

over watch actually needs 1 hell of a cpu and really fast ram... you are mistaken my friend 

[Shyam Ganapathy]

1 minute ago, Dryden said:

I don't know the how many games have support for SLI, guessing not many, and I'm not so confident many upcoming/future games will provide support for SLI. it's something to consider if you seriously want to get another 980. Good luck!

 

Just now, CODboyX said:

over watch actually needs 1 hell of a cpu and really fast ram... you are mistaken my friend 

how is this list? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vbq2bX