Intel Quick Sync vs Core Count for Streaming

[jonrosalia]

Just now, Invader-Peridot said:

 

So go with the Dell one if i could

 

im worried, are they able to be fitted to a normal ATX case? or are the screw holes different? 

 

also this is the mobo for the dual X5680's if i go for it https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SuperMicro-X8DTL-iF-Socket-1366-Dual-Xeon-CPU-Server-Motherboard/123049438241?epid=77578649&hash=item1ca6516c21:g:1KQAAOSwn35avZT- 

that I cant help with that is a digging item your going to have to take that to the dell forum for a yea or nay on it fitting standard mounting and what form factor it is considered it might be a Eatx board being a server part   

[Invader-Peridot]

2 hours ago, jonrosalia said:

that I cant help with that is a digging item your going to have to take that to the dell forum for a yea or nay on it fitting standard mounting and what form factor it is considered it might be a Eatx board being a server part   

 

Okay the HP mobo looks like it could be good  and the dell one on checking should be okay to fit into my case 

 

also another CPU appeared on the horizon, The E5 2687W , 8 core but higher turbo it's hard to find a site comparing the 2687w and the 2680 

[PandaCopyRight]

3 hours ago, Invader-Peridot said:

 

Hmm 

 

sorry for going in circles here but!

 

Option 1, Supermicro Dual 1366 Board with a pair of X5680's which would run me about 250 

 

Option 2, Dell Motherboard, LGA 2011, Single E5 2680 V2, Which would run me about 300 (these are including ram) 

 

Option 3, Ryzen 1700, Would be about 400 (way over budget) 

 

Option 4, i7 4770, Which would go upto 300 

 

i wanna get as close to the 200 mark as possible :') 

 

Also if you may have to ask , i have an i5 4430 on a Z97 board, but the Z97 board is definately not working too well (2 dead ram slots) and isn't in good nick 

i would honestly go option 2 or 3 for streaming and gaming or 4 for just gaming or maybe streaming ... 1 if you need a workstation for video rendering or stuff like that

as much as the option 1 sounds like a good idea ... they are old cpus and you might have quite a lot of issues ... not even talking about it being a 2 socket setup ... i would argue that even the option 2 and 4 are quite old ... but still good enough 

[Invader-Peridot]

3 hours ago, PandaCopyRight said:

i would honestly go option 2 or 3 for streaming and gaming or 4 for just gaming or maybe streaming ... 1 if you need a workstation for video rendering or stuff like that

as much as the option 1 sounds like a good idea ... they are old cpus and you might have quite a lot of issues ... not even talking about it being a 2 socket setup ... i would argue that even the option 2 and 4 are quite old ... but still good enough 

 

i took a look at the cinebench benchmarks and it seems out of them all the paiir of xeons is the most powerful, and at the cheapest they are really tempting :0 

[PandaCopyRight]

10 hours ago, Invader-Peridot said:

 

i took a look at the cinebench benchmarks and it seems out of them all the paiir of xeons is the most powerful, and at the cheapest they are really tempting :0 

pure power is not always the best option

as i said ... for a workstation that renders videos or does similar work loads, sure the 2x xeons would be the best option 

but for games where single core performance is still more needed than multi core performance, you are better off with the i7 than 2 xeons

 

[jonrosalia]

13 hours ago, PandaCopyRight said:

pure power is not always the best option

as i said ... for a workstation that renders videos or does similar work loads, sure the 2x xeons would be the best option 

but for games where single core performance is still more needed than multi core performance, you are better off with the i7 than 2 xeons

 

he dosent have the money for a  i7 and 3.6 Ghz is enough he's getting a great deal on the hardware and I would buy it myself if I could just to have it as a server. 

[Invader-Peridot]

On 7/31/2018 at 1:07 AM, jonrosalia said:

he dosent have the money for a  i7 and 3.6 Ghz is enough he's getting a great deal on the hardware and I would buy it myself if I could just to have it as a server. 

 

she  

 

and yeah honestly, the IPC on the xeons is fine since it wont be combined with a card it'll be bottlenecking hard anyway

 

also tech YES did a video on older xeon vs i7 and the Xeon actually performed pretty well in comparison :D! 

 

So i've started saving up

[jonrosalia]

1 hour ago, Invader-Peridot said:

 

she  

 

and yeah honestly, the IPC on the xeons is fine since it wont be combined with a card it'll be bottlenecking hard anyway

 

also tech YES did a video on older xeon vs i7 and the Xeon actually performed pretty well in comparison :D! 

 

So i've started saving up

the work load has to be multi thread optimized to really have a advantage over a i7 with the 3.6 core clock but you can try to bump the base clock on it to get it closer to 3.8 but that is bios and sketchy. its single thread that limits you or  4-8 threads optimised the i7 will walk away its not a crazy difference but it matters for some applications its most of the time more like having a i5 6500ish during day to day compared to whatever i7 is how the different chipsets end up working out. i5 6500 is my everyday and it gets me more than enough frames with a 1050ti 4Gb that I also highly recommend trying to get for this build I play 75 FPS on my 75hz monitor locked fortnight high settings and it will even do really well with 4k video. its also 75 watt so its slot powered pcie 3.0 so no 8 or 6 pin power and its not a bad deal for the priceor size

[Invader-Peridot]

hey some good news! 

 

i found some RAM

 

but now im wondering, should i just get a single X5650 and OC it to like 4.5 or that? 

[jonrosalia]

2 hours ago, Invader-Peridot said:

hey some good news! 

 

i found some RAM

 

but now im wondering, should i just get a single X5650 and OC it to like 4.5 or that? 

xeons are semi locked the speed is what it is and 2.6 to 2.8 would be a stretch the top end the same Xeon is base clock overclocking and doesn't get you much.

what happened to the xeon that was faster core speed you where looking at?

you need to look at good deals on newer i5s also its going to give you about the same gaming experience with the older xeons.

 

your gpu is more important really any finds on that front?

[Invader-Peridot]

55 minutes ago, jonrosalia said:

xeons are semi locked the speed is what it is and 2.6 to 2.8 would be a stretch the top end the same Xeon is base clock overclocking and doesn't get you much.

what happened to the xeon that was faster core speed you where looking at?

you need to look at good deals on newer i5s also its going to give you about the same gaming experience with the older xeons.

 

your gpu is more important really any finds on that front?

 

Found a few used 970s for a p good price 

 

Also the faster clocked xeon was the E5 2687W i think? but on further inspection the E5 2680 V2 was similar in IPC to it being sandy vs ivy 

or the X5680's? which yeah are still an option 

 

Also newer i5's like the 7500? 

[Invader-Peridot]

On 8/4/2018 at 3:40 AM, jonrosalia said:

xeons are semi locked the speed is what it is and 2.6 to 2.8 would be a stretch the top end the same Xeon is base clock overclocking and doesn't get you much.

what happened to the xeon that was faster core speed you where looking at?

you need to look at good deals on newer i5s also its going to give you about the same gaming experience with the older xeons.

 

your gpu is more important really any finds on that front?

 

hey im negotiating with this guy https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/173394366064?_trksid=p2380057.m570.l6346&_trkparms=gh1g%3DI173394366064.N101.S1&autorefresh=true 

 

is this a good board to go for? i can get a complete set of x5650's and ram... and i can throw X5680's or X5690's in it down the line the price is within budget! easily and its a powerful system im just concerned about if the board is good 

[Invader-Peridot]

- - UPDATE - - 

 

BOUGHT THE DUAL XEONS! 12 cores of rad  

 

 

[jonrosalia]

2 hours ago, Invader-Peridot said:

- - UPDATE - - 

 

BOUGHT THE DUAL XEONS! 12 cores of rad  

 

 

nice let us know how it moves forward