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Electronics diagnostics

BuckGup
By BuckGup
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I made a Nixie tube clock a while back and it has wifi onboard which allows me to set the time and change the colors remotely by signing into it locally like a router. However whenever I try to save the options they don't. So after talking to the manufacturer and looking at the description I have an issue somewhere on it. It can't talk to the IC2 which is the wifi module. The only things that I would worry about are the SMD around it as they are super tiny and it was my first time soldering anything that small. So can I use a multi meter to see what's working and what's not or is there some other way? Thanks

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5 minutes ago, Pangea2017 said:

Using your eye is the best first step. Testing for shorts is always a good start. Checking the manuel for importent points (voltages and waveformes) and messure which voltage is there is the next step. Other fun can be a diode mounted in the wrong way, mixed up some resistor and capacitor or soldering the IC in the wrong orientation.

Or you just screw this and hook up the o-scope to the i2c to see what is going on.

Don't have probes for my scope yet but I will check. Everything looks visually ok I just don't know if it burned up when I was soldering it. I can access the wireless module so I know most of the circuit going to the IC2 is working just saving to the memory

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18 minutes ago, Pangea2017 said:

Do you mean IC2? tought it would be a typo and i2c would be the real thing. 

Buring something up is not as easy as it looks. Unless you totaly screwed up and even the pcb turns black you should be fine.

So far you can talk to the wifi chip over i2c (or wlan?) but it does not save your settings? Do you might have a link to the kit?

You are right it's I2C. I can successfully talk to it over wlan but no saved settings. 

In the info section of it is shows everything except I2C slave. Here is a link.

 

Here's the eBay link

https://www.ebay.com/itm/132023669741?ul_noapp=true

 

Here's the manual

https://www.nixieclock.biz/Downloads/NixieClockIN14InstructionManualRev2V45.pdf

 

Other info

https://www.nixieclock.biz/Manuals.html

 

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2 hours ago, Pangea2017 said:

Sry. I was the last days not online. Do you have made some progress? i have seen you ask for caps and resistors in another thread.

The good is you can talk to the ESP-01 which mean you have a stable enough power delivery and a kind of sucessfull flash.

 

Did you had time to watch for the i2c port? if not you could also check continuity between the esp and atmega. Messerung Vcc on the atmega should not yield any surprise since they are on the same 3.3V voltage line and the atmega does not need that clean power compared to the esp (checked that the atmega is working?).

I have looked over the schematics and tested voltage. All is correct and connection is working throughout. Especially the I2C connection to the atmeg chip. Voltage is correct and I resoldered the Mosfets as I thought that's what was causing an issue. I honestly have no clue now

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3 hours ago, Pangea2017 said:

I would not search the error at the mosfet as those are used for the output and on they esp (for I2C) are presoldert. Since you confirmed that the AtMega and ESP is running, the voltages are  right (also the pull up on the  PC6/reset on the atmega?) and the connection between those two is working I am out of ideas. Maybe this is the point where you should look into the digital stuff. If you plan on doing more with electronics a cheap logic analyzer (under $10) is worth it. 16 Msample/s (25 is not stable for me) and free saleae logic (sigrock is the alternative) software is worth it.

Other try would be the RTC module which is a standard china part (~$1 from china) and see if it is working. Or try (re?)programm the atmega.

 

ps. does the support have told you a hint what it could be?

Honestly at this point since everything electrically checks out I think I am going to see if I can reflash it or get a chip from the seller. I think if the firmware doesn't match on the atmeg and for the wireless it won't work which might explain why I can't see I2C slave in the info tab.

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