UPS??

[AverageAfro]

Hey guys, so I didnt know where else to put this but I know I need a UPS. I've done some research but I can't settle on one that I need... 

 

I need 2. 1 for my server and the screen, raspberry pi and external HDD. Then I need one for my PC, a screen, external raid enclosure and 2 raspberry pi's.

 

Problem is I dont know what to get, my budget for both is probably £300.

 

Extra info;

- Server has 6 HDDs and is running an i5 4690k, 550w power supply

- PC is running a TR 1900x and a 1080, 1000w psu

 

Cheers

[H20Burner]

6 minutes ago, AverageAfro said:

Hey guys, so I didnt know where else to put this but I know I need a UPS. I've done some research but I can't settle on one that I need... 

 

I need 2. 1 for my server and the screen, raspberry pi and external HDD. Then I need one for my PC, a screen, external raid enclosure and 2 raspberry pi's.

 

Problem is I dont know what to get, my budget for both is probably £300.

 

Extra info;

- Server has 6 HDDs and is running an i5 4690k, 550w power supply

- PC is running a TR 1900x and a 1080, 1000w psu

 

Cheers

I know one thing for sure is that 300 isn't gonna be enough to get a ups for the threadripper and the pc. (if you get quality ones like I have)

[beersykins]

How much runtime do you expect?

 

Something like this has a runtime of 10/3 min at half/full load but blows out your budget with one unit.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/CyberPower-CP1500EPFCLCD-UK-Backup-Sinewave-Sockets/dp/B00BUJBD6K

 

[leadeater]

What length of run time are you wanting or expecting on battery? Is this more for power protection, bad power events, and to clean shutdown the computers when the power does fail?

 

You'd be looking at something like these in your price range, if you can go with the 5S as it's line interactive type where the 3S is standby.

 

Eaton 3S (multiple different VA ratings, just showing one)

http://www.eaton.com/us/en-us/skuPage.3S750.html

 

Eaton 5S (multiple different VA ratings, just showing one)

http://www.eaton.com/us/en-us/skuPage.5S1000LCD.html

 

The highest you could go for your price, but I think it's too pricey, would be Eaton 5P, 3 times the price as 5S at same VA rating.

http://www.eaton.com/us/en-us/skuPage.5P1000.html

 

Edit:

Actually the Eaton 5SC looks like a really good option without the 5P price tag.

http://www.eaton.com/us/en-us/catalog/backup-power-ups-surge-it-power-distribution/eaton-5sc-ups.models.html

[pball]

I personally have two CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD PFC Sinewave UPS System and they are working good for me. It's honestly over kill for even my main system which you can see in my signature and more so for my i7-2600 htpc and network gear. But over kill is nice and I got the second one for $130 on cyber Monday. My main system uses 450w when maxed out.

 

Depending on the prices where you are you could probably get 1000VA and 1350VA version or maybe the 850VA for the server and the 1500VA for the threadripper system.

[AverageAfro]

1 hour ago, leadeater said:

What length of run time are you wanting or expecting on battery? Is this more for power protection, bad power events, and to clean shutdown the computers when the power does fail?

 

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The server one preferably needs to be able to run the server for I think at least 15mins, and if at all possible have it send something to turn it off automatically as I wont be in the same town as it. The one for my computer, 5-10 mins, just enough time for me to save everything, close it all down and safely turn it off. 
 

1 hour ago, pball said:

I personally have two CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD PFC Sinewave UPS System and they are working good for me. It's honestly over kill for even my main system which you can see in my signature and more so for my i7-2600 htpc and network gear. But over kill is nice and I got the second one for $130 on cyber Monday. My main system uses 450w when maxed out.

 

Depending on the prices where you are you could probably get 1000VA and 1350VA version or maybe the 850VA for the server and the 1500VA for the threadripper system.

 

If these are the best going around then I think I'll dip into my savings for them. It's the one I was looking at before I posted here. How many mins are you looking at on battery for your system? 

So I'm thinking about getting these 2 even though it puts me way over budget. A brown out happens occasionally in the UK and they're few and far enough apart that we often forget, but it'd only take 1 to kill or damage any of my equipment... 

For my PC: CyberPower-CP1500EPFCLCD
For my Server: CyberPower-CP900EPFCLCD

So 2 questions. What sorta time am I looking on these once the power cuts out, and with those 3 prong sockets on the back, am I better off getting single individual power plugs, or is a strip ok?

 

Edit: Is there anything wrong with this Unit or this Unit?

[leadeater]

5 hours ago, AverageAfro said:

Edit: Is there anything wrong with this Unit or this Unit?

Check which type they are, cheaper ones tend to be offline/standby which means there is less power protection and potential device reboot on power failure or brown out. Standby UPSs have a switch over time between mains and battery and when you have a rather high load it's fairly likely device reboots will happen.

 

Check the spec sheets and they should list switching time and also run times at different loads. Better UPSs have faster switch over time, Line Interactive type is much much faster usually.

[pball]

At a load of 125W my ups gives an estimate of 50 minutes, never had a power outage here more than a few minutes so I haven't tested the run time that much. On the cyberpower website they have graphs for how long a unit will last with different loads.

 

I can't say much about the plugs you have over there, but I can say do not use any type of power strip that has surge protection built in. I've read plugging something like that into a UPS can cause issues. A passive splitter should be fine but those can be harder to find.

[AverageAfro]

9 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Check which type they are, cheaper ones tend to be offline/standby which means there is less power protection and potential device reboot on power failure or brown out. Standby UPSs have a switch over time between mains and battery and when you have a rather high load it's fairly likely device reboots will happen.

 

Check the spec sheets and they should list switching time and also run times at different loads. Better UPSs have faster switch over time, Line Interactive type is much much faster usually.

 

8 minutes ago, pball said:

At a load of 125W my ups gives an estimate of 50 minutes, never had a power outage here more than a few minutes so I haven't tested the run time that much. On the cyberpower website they have graphs for how long a unit will last with different loads.

 

I can't say much about the plugs you have over there, but I can say do not use any type of power strip that has surge protection built in. I've read plugging something like that into a UPS can cause issues. A passive splitter should be fine but those can be harder to find.

 

Cheers guys! Think I can make an informed purchase now!

[AverageAfro]

In case anyone finds this and is wondering I went with a Cyberpower Value Soho series. The 1500va/900w for my PC. Im going to test how that works with my PC, then buy a less powerful one for my server once its set up. If it's crap I'll update if its decent then you'll have an idea too!