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Recently I've been getting stutters and they're annoying. I know the standard response to a change is, what happened around then, and undo it? Problem is, I can't remember. I originally (incorrectly) thought it was Chrome running the background causing it, as closing it at the time seemed to resolve it. However, doing that now still doesn't fix it. Chrome makes it worse, but it wasn't the cause.

 

Game is FFXIV, system is main rig in sig (6700k, 1080Ti, plenty of ram, lots of SSDs, 1440p 144 Hz G-sync. Win10. Typical frame rates varies with content from 60 to the 144 limit of the monitor, but within that range it is normally smooth. Recently I've had glitches where there is an intermittant micro-stutter. The reported fps is 50-60-ish but it feels bad as it is a sudden drop from higher than that, as opposed to consistently in that area. There doesn't seem to be any pattern to when it happens, but it seems more likely to happen when moving around new areas.

 

Maybe it is the disk then? I fire up monitoring, and there is no appreciable disk activity when it happens on either the OS SSD or the SSD the game is installed on. Other drives are assumed idle.

 

What about the CPU? This is the only clue... while running the game, "System" normally uses around 3-4% CPU, but when the glitches happen, it goes up to around 6%. Nothing else changes.

 

Monitoring the GPU, I see the opposite, the GPU usage drops when the glitches happen. The GPU is not overheating or indicating any unexpected limiting.

 

I've kinda decided to work around this by moving the GPU to another system with more CPU and see how that goes, but I am curious what's happening here. 

Gaming system: R7 7800X3D, Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB, Corsair Vengeance 2x 32GB 6000C30, MSI Ventus 3x OC RTX 5070 Ti, MSI MPG A850G, Fractal Design North, Samsung 990 Pro 2TB, Alienware AW3225QF (32" 240 Hz OLED)
Productivity system: i9-7980XE, Asus X299 TUF mark 2, Noctua D15, 64GB ram (mixed), RTX 4070 FE, NZXT E850, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, iiyama ProLite XU2793QSU-B6 (27" 1440p 100 Hz)
Gaming laptop: Lenovo Legion 5, 5800H, RTX 3070, Kingston DDR4 3200C22 2x16GB 2Rx8, Kingston Fury Renegade 1TB + Crucial P1 1TB SSD, 165 Hz IPS 1080p G-Sync Compatible

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I've had a similar issue to this, you could try disabling ReLive/PlaysTV/ShadowPlay or any recording software you have. Since the Windows Creators Update in April they run very poorly eating up to 30% of CPU and making some games run worse.

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9 minutes ago, forceinline said:

I've had a similar issue to this, you could try disabling ReLive/PlaysTV/ShadowPlay or any recording software you have. Since the Windows Creators Update in April they run very poorly eating up to 30% of CPU and making some games run worse.

I know the nvidia one is disabled. I thought I had disabled the one in Windows but will re-check, since I can't be sure if I revisited it since April Update.

 

Thing is, there isn't any significant disk or CPU activity other than that logged by the game.

Gaming system: R7 7800X3D, Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB, Corsair Vengeance 2x 32GB 6000C30, MSI Ventus 3x OC RTX 5070 Ti, MSI MPG A850G, Fractal Design North, Samsung 990 Pro 2TB, Alienware AW3225QF (32" 240 Hz OLED)
Productivity system: i9-7980XE, Asus X299 TUF mark 2, Noctua D15, 64GB ram (mixed), RTX 4070 FE, NZXT E850, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, iiyama ProLite XU2793QSU-B6 (27" 1440p 100 Hz)
Gaming laptop: Lenovo Legion 5, 5800H, RTX 3070, Kingston DDR4 3200C22 2x16GB 2Rx8, Kingston Fury Renegade 1TB + Crucial P1 1TB SSD, 165 Hz IPS 1080p G-Sync Compatible

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2 minutes ago, NinJake said:

Did FFIX have an update? Can you try playing other games and seeing if the stutters persist?

FFXIV like many other online games gets ongoing updates. I don't have interest in any other PC game at the moment, but now you mention it, GTAV really doesn't like this PC either even before I had the problem on FFXIV. I was going to go the other way, and set up FFXIV on other systems to test with. If they're clean, I know it is limited to something in this system.

Gaming system: R7 7800X3D, Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB, Corsair Vengeance 2x 32GB 6000C30, MSI Ventus 3x OC RTX 5070 Ti, MSI MPG A850G, Fractal Design North, Samsung 990 Pro 2TB, Alienware AW3225QF (32" 240 Hz OLED)
Productivity system: i9-7980XE, Asus X299 TUF mark 2, Noctua D15, 64GB ram (mixed), RTX 4070 FE, NZXT E850, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, iiyama ProLite XU2793QSU-B6 (27" 1440p 100 Hz)
Gaming laptop: Lenovo Legion 5, 5800H, RTX 3070, Kingston DDR4 3200C22 2x16GB 2Rx8, Kingston Fury Renegade 1TB + Crucial P1 1TB SSD, 165 Hz IPS 1080p G-Sync Compatible

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Ok, I'm going to have to hand in my PC troubleshooting credentials and take a break. While I don't know what the cause was, the fix was... rather basic. I hate to admit it... I just... turned it off and back on again! Reboooooot! Note I normally don't reboot my system except for the monthly Windows Updates on or around patch Tuesday. This has not been a problem before so I never suspected it. 

Gaming system: R7 7800X3D, Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB, Corsair Vengeance 2x 32GB 6000C30, MSI Ventus 3x OC RTX 5070 Ti, MSI MPG A850G, Fractal Design North, Samsung 990 Pro 2TB, Alienware AW3225QF (32" 240 Hz OLED)
Productivity system: i9-7980XE, Asus X299 TUF mark 2, Noctua D15, 64GB ram (mixed), RTX 4070 FE, NZXT E850, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, iiyama ProLite XU2793QSU-B6 (27" 1440p 100 Hz)
Gaming laptop: Lenovo Legion 5, 5800H, RTX 3070, Kingston DDR4 3200C22 2x16GB 2Rx8, Kingston Fury Renegade 1TB + Crucial P1 1TB SSD, 165 Hz IPS 1080p G-Sync Compatible

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I'm still not problem free on this system. Post reboot, I'm stutter free when not running Chrome, but it comes back if I do. Quite often I watch youtube on 2nd monitor while gaming so this isn't working great for me... I guess I still have to follow through on my original plan. Next job today: move 1080Ti into 8086k system...

Gaming system: R7 7800X3D, Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB, Corsair Vengeance 2x 32GB 6000C30, MSI Ventus 3x OC RTX 5070 Ti, MSI MPG A850G, Fractal Design North, Samsung 990 Pro 2TB, Alienware AW3225QF (32" 240 Hz OLED)
Productivity system: i9-7980XE, Asus X299 TUF mark 2, Noctua D15, 64GB ram (mixed), RTX 4070 FE, NZXT E850, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, iiyama ProLite XU2793QSU-B6 (27" 1440p 100 Hz)
Gaming laptop: Lenovo Legion 5, 5800H, RTX 3070, Kingston DDR4 3200C22 2x16GB 2Rx8, Kingston Fury Renegade 1TB + Crucial P1 1TB SSD, 165 Hz IPS 1080p G-Sync Compatible

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