ram Overclocking HyperX RAM

[Tsar_Maple]

Hi all, 

 

I built a PC earlier this year on a bit of a budget.

Specs:

• Ryzen 3 1300X (stock fan)
• ASRocks Pro 4 B350
• 2x4GB HyperX Fury 2133MHz RAM
• ASUS 1050Ti STRIX
• SeaSonic 620W Bronzeboi PSU
• Define Mini C w/ stock fans, 1 front, 1 rear

 

I overclock my GPU on the regular, but I have no idea where to get started with RAM. I do plan on getting 2 more 4GB 2133MHz sticks soon.

 

My questions:

• Is my RAM going to die?
• I know Ryzen loves high RAM clock speeds, but how much of a performance increase will I actually be seeing? What applications will be benefiting the most?
• Do I need to invest in another front fan for cooling? I have no clue how hot RAM gets when overclocked.
• My computer likes to stall up when playing games + using Chrome b/c Chrome is hungry af when streaming Twitch. Could this OC help resolve that, or is that something that more RAM alone would resolve?
• Are there any general rules of thumb when it comes to OCing RAM + keeping the computer stable?
• Are there any suggestions for going about this?

 

Thanks in advance. This is uncharted waters for me and Google hasn't been my friend for research.

[.Apex.]

@Tsar_Maple

• Is my RAM going to die?
  No, if you don't overvolt it, it'll be fine.
   
• I know Ryzen loves high RAM clock speeds, but how much of a performance increase will I actually be seeing? What applications will be benefiting the most?
  with Ryzen all applications will benefit from higher clocked RAM, because it is affecting the CPU directly, but with Intel it's different, don't know how much performance increase but going from 2133mhz to 3000mhz on Ryzen will give you a very noticable performance bump.
   
• Do I need to invest in another front fan for cooling? I have no clue how hot RAM gets when overclocked.
  if it has a Heat spreader it's fine, RAM doesn't get hot, and also the front fans on the case have direct airflow on the RAM (depending on the case), but generally you shouldn't worry about it, just stress the RAM and touch the heatspreader, if it's not burning your hand then you're good, you'll feel heat but if your hand is comfortable with the heat and you can keep it there all day, then it's not hot, but if you can't touch it for more than a second then i would start worrying, that would mean that the RAM is above or near 60c, according to specifications RAM can operate safely at 85c maximum but i wouldn't recommend that, it's up to you if you wanna follow specifications or not, RAM very rarely dies, very very rare.
   
• My computer likes to stall up when playing games + using Chrome b/c Chrome is hungry af when streaming Twitch. Could this OC help resolve that, or is that something that more RAM alone would resolve?
  Streaming as in broadcasting or watching live twitch videos? how the hell are you broadcasting on twitch and gaming with a Ryzen 1300x? don't think RAM will help with that, it's more like CPU limitation, i am not sure.
   
• Are there any general rules of thumb when it comes to OCing RAM + keeping the computer stable?
  general rule is don't go above 1.5V, that's the max safe voltage, personally i use 1.45V, also in reality RAM can take lots of voltage, some people are pushing 1.6v or 1.8v or even 2v, but they don't do that 24/7 it's more like to do a benchmark and stuff like that, but 1.5v max for daily usage (DDR4 ofc), and it will take you days to find a stable overclock for your RAM, cuz sometimes it'll be stable for days and then boom you get a bluescreen, so just keep fine tuning the Timings and do a memtest or something to stress the RAM and find errors, or just use your PC normally and play games and such, sometimes stress tests don't find errors but playing games will make the RAM unstable for some reason. (don't freak out, getting a bluescreen is not damaging the RAM in any way, even if you clock your ram to 5000mhz, it's not gonna damage it, i mean it won't work but you get my point, only heat and voltage damages RAM)
   
• Are there any suggestions for going about this?
  I suggest trying 3000mhz and 15-17-17-36 Timings with 1.45v or 1.5v, as a start, and start fine tuning voltage and frequency and timings to get what you want.
  
  for example try going for 1.5V and then start lowering the voltage until you find the sweet spot, but hey if it only works on 1.5v then you can keep it at 1.5v.

[Tsar_Maple]

3 minutes ago, syn2112 said:

@Tsar_Maple

• Is my RAM going to die?
  No, if you don't overvolt it, it'll be fine.
   
• I know Ryzen loves high RAM clock speeds, but how much of a performance increase will I actually be seeing? What applications will be benefiting the most?
  with Ryzen all applications will benefit from higher clocked RAM, because it is affecting the CPU directly, but with Intel it's different, don't know how much performance increase but going from 2133mhz to 3000mhz on Ryzen will give you a very noticable performance bump.
   
• Do I need to invest in another front fan for cooling? I have no clue how hot RAM gets when overclocked.
  if it has a Heat spreader it's fine, RAM doesn't get hot, and also the front fans on the case have direct airflow on the RAM (depending on the case), but generally you shouldn't worry about it, just stress the RAM and touch the heatspreader, if it's not burning your hand then you're good, you'll feel heat but if you hand is comfortable with the heat and you can keep it there all day, then it's not hot, but if you can't touch it for more than a second then i would start worrying, that would mean that the RAM is above or near 60c, according to specifications RAM can operate safely at 85c maximum but i wouldn't recommend that, it's up to you if you wanna follow specifications or not, RAM very rarely dies, very very rare.
   
• My computer likes to stall up when playing games + using Chrome b/c Chrome is hungry af when streaming Twitch. Could this OC help resolve that, or is that something that more RAM alone would resolve?
  Streaming as in broadcasting or watching live twitch videos? how the hell are you broadcasting on twitch and gaming with a Ryzen 1300x? don't think RAM will help with that, it's more like CPU limitation, i am not sure.
   
• Are there any general rules of thumb when it comes to OCing RAM + keeping the computer stable?
  general rule is don't go above 1.5V, that's the max safe voltage, personally i use 1.45V, also in reality RAM can take lots of voltage, some people are pushing 1.6v or 1.8v or even 2v, but they don't do that 24/7 it's more like to do a benchmark and stuff like that, but 1.5v max for daily usage (DDR4 ofc), and it will take you days to find a stable overclock for your RAM, cuz sometimes it'll be stable for days and then boom you get a bluescreen, so just keep fine tuning the Timings and do a memtest or something to stress the RAM and find errors, or just use your PC normally and play games and such, sometimes stress tests don't find errors but playing games will make the RAM unstable for some reason. (don't freak out, getting a bluescreen is not damaging the RAM in any way, even if you clock your ram to 5000mhz, it's not gonna damage it, i mean it won't work but you get my point, only heat and voltage damages RAM)
   
• Are there any suggestions for going about this?
  I suggest trying 3000mhz and 15-17-17-36 Timings with 1.45v or 1.5v, as a start, and start fine tuning voltage and frequency and timings to get what you want.
  
  for example try going for 1.5V and then start lowering the voltage until you find the sweet spot, but hey if it only works on 1.5v then you can keep it at 1.5v.

Thanks for the suggestions! Helps a bunch!

 

And yeah, my 1300X streams just fine. I think my output is 840p or something, but that's just so that mobile users can view with less data (a lot of my audience is mobile based). It streams 1080p fine  But Chrome only starts hogging RAM while I'm viewing content & have a few tabs open while playing games.

[.Apex.]

1 minute ago, Tsar_Maple said:

Thanks for the suggestions! Helps a bunch!

 

And yeah, my 1300X streams just fine. I think my output is 840p or something, but that's just so that mobile users can view with less data (a lot of my audience is mobile based). It streams 1080p fine  But Chrome only starts hogging RAM while I'm viewing content & have a few tabs open while playing games.

overclocking your RAM might help with that  or getting more RAM, depending if you're using above 90% of your RAM, and good luck  

[Tsar_Maple]

1 minute ago, syn2112 said:

overclocking your RAM might help with that  or getting more RAM, depending if you're using above 90% of your RAM, and good luck  

Yeeeah, it likes to hang out at around 85% ":D 

 

Preciate it!