Planing - Gaming/Streaming Build help/feedback

[Drazmar]

Hello everyone. I plan on building myself my first PC (so far I bought pre-built PCs) and wanted to ask for some feedback on the build I virtually put together.

My budget is around 1500€, and I want to use the PC for gaming, and potentially streaming as well. I live not Slovakia, where VAT is around 20%

Specs :

Case = NZXT S340 Special Edition
Motheboard = MSI Z370 GAMING PLUS 
CPU = Intel Core i7-7700K 
GPU = MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Ti AERO 8G 
SSD = Kingston A400 480GB 7 mm
HDD = I will use 1TB from my old rig as it would be a waste to just let it rest on my shelves
RAM = HyperX 16GB KIT DDR4 2400MHz CL15 Fury Black Series
PS = EVGA 750 GQ Power Supply
CPU Cooling = Be quiet! DARK ROCK 3
Case Cooling = Corsair LL120 RGB LED 120 mm Dual Light Loop PWM x3

Cost = €1 682,42
Note : I might be able to avoid VAT for the parts, which would cost me €1 402,01


I was thinking if I went with 8700k, if I should overclock or not and if it would be a good cpu to stream with. What would the benefits be if I overclock? Do I need better cooling or water cooling? What about Motherboard? I heard that motherboard is a key when you want to overclock.

When it comes to other specs, I would like to build the pc with upgradability in mind (like 1080ti, or stonger cpu), as well as the rig to last and be viable for as many years as possible. Of course games require more juice to run with each passing year, but Id love to keep playing games at 1080x1020 60hz (potentially 144hz) for at least 3-5 years without the need to upgrade.

Please let me know what you think. If this build could work, what to change, cheaper options etc..

Cheers.

 

Edit : I plan on building the pc in about 2-3 months, so I want to take the time to but it together properly, and ask the community for opinions

[Starelementpoke]

Probably better to wait till when you plan on actually buying the parts. Prices can change pretty fast.

[Nocte]

The 7700K is not a good option anymore for streaming when compared to the likes of the R7 2700 and i7 8700.

 

This can give you an idea of what you could get, but as @Starelementpoke said, prices will change in 2-3 months.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor  (€289.00 @ ARLT)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€145.94 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€152.74 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€55.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€44.42 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Inno3D - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Twin X2 Video Card  (€569.00 @ Caseking)
Case: Corsair - 100R ATX Mid Tower Case  (€45.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€77.38 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €1379.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-27 17:48 CEST+0200

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  (€319.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler  (€44.15 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370P D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€96.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€152.74 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€55.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€44.42 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Inno3D - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Twin X2 Video Card  (€569.00 @ Caseking)
Case: Corsair - 100R ATX Mid Tower Case  (€45.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€77.38 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €1405.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-27 17:53 CEST+0200

 

24 minutes ago, Drazmar said:

I might be able to avoid VAT for the parts

I hope this is in legal ways.

 

[Drazmar]

45 minutes ago, Starelementpoke said:

Probably better to wait till when you plan on actually buying the parts. Prices can change pretty fast.

As I said, ill be building/buying the parts in roughly 2-3 months, for now I just want to figure out what build could work, what I should look out for, etc...

 

38 minutes ago, Eibe said:

 

I hope this is in legal ways.

 

Yes it is. I would never use some sort of a black market or whatever illegal markets there are. There are just a extra steps and conditions that need to be met before I can purchase items without VAT affecting the price.

 

Anyway, Motherboards are what kinda scare me, Im not 100% on what motherboard work with what cpus, or gpus, or any other components. What specifications should I look for in Motherboard when purchasing I7? What about upgradibility.

[Nocte]

9 minutes ago, Drazmar said:

Motherboards are what kinda scare me, Im not 100% on what motherboard work with what cpus, or gpus, or any other components. What specifications should I look for in Motherboard when purchasing I7? What about upgradibility.

Intel Coffee Lake works with Z370, H370, H310, B360 motherboards. If you want to overclock you will have to get a 8700K (or 8600K/8350K) chip. Coffee Lake has no upgradability. When the 9000-series hits, you will need to replace the motherboard as well.

 

For what concerns AMD, all Ryzen chips are overclockable and all motherboards can overclock (with the exception of A320/A420 mobos). Ryzen has a much better upgrade path than Coffee Lake (since it has one in the first place ): the AM4 socket should be supported until 2020, meaning you could use the motherboard you purchase now with Ryzen 3000 and 4000 chips (if they are going to use the same numbering in the future).

[Drazmar]

Ok so I was playing around with the build, and this is what I came with:

 

Case = NZXT S340
Motheboard = MSI Z370 GAMING PLUS 
CPU = Intel Core i7-8700K 
GPU = MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Ti AERO 8G 
SSD = Kingston A400 480GB 7 mm
HDD = I will use 1TB from my old rig
RAM = Adata XPG Gammix 3000MHz
PS = EVGA 750 GQ Power Supply
CPU Cooling = NZXT Kraker x62 (for better cpu cooling)

Case Cooling = Corsair LL120 RGB , OR = NZXT Aer RGB

 

Price = 1756.70€ - 1504.39€ (1463.91€ - 1253.66€ without VAT)

the lower price is from a shop I found in my country, I have to first do some research if they are legit

 

What do you think? What would you change/add?

 

Also what about Case/CPU cooling? What should I look for with 1070 ti and I7-8700k?

 

[Drazmar]

UPDATE : After many tutorials watched, any a lot of text to go through, this is the PC I have built (not yet IRL), and putting it in partpicker.

 

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G7XqpG
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G7XqpG/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  ($339.69 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Liquid CPU Cooler  ($203.69 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370P D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($102.95 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($209.95 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($125.51 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Video Card 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA - 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($92.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1134.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-01 13:07 EDT-0400

 

Let me know what you guys think. This build, if nothing comes up, should be the final thing