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7 minutes ago, GermanFreak said:

 

That case is terrible don't buy it, you should buy a case that actually has airflow like the Masterbox 5 Black, basically just look for a mesh front.

Also the ASrock Pro 4 might be a cheaper motherboard and it'll be fine.

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7 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

That case is terrible don't buy it, you should buy a case that actually has airflow like the Masterbox 5 Black, basically just look for a mesh front.

Also the ASrock Pro 4 might be a cheaper motherboard and it'll be fine.

i will not oc, so there will not be very high temps

 

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7 minutes ago, GermanFreak said:

i will not oc, so there will not be very high temps

 

Even if you don't OC it's going to run hot because the airflow is so limited. Heat is also the enemy of electronics. It's not just your CPU, it's your GPU as well.

More than likely you'll probably end up overclocking your CPU at some point, Ryzen Master makes it really easy, just crank the voltage to 1.35V and see how high your frequency can go. 1.425-1.45 are the recommend max voltages.
 

Something like an RL06 Pro is the goal IMO, best in class cooling.
 

 

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22 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Even if you don't OC it's going to run hot because the airflow is so limited. Heat is also the enemy of electronics. It's not just your CPU, it's your GPU as well.

More than likely you'll probably end up overclocking your CPU at some point, Ryzen Master makes it really easy, just crank the voltage to 1.35V and see how high your frequency can go. 1.425-1.45 are the recommend max voltages.
 

Something like an RL06 Pro is the goal IMO, best in class cooling.

is phantek eclipse p300 okay? I only liked this one until i've seen the "coolermaster something blabla".

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3 hours ago, GermanFreak said:

is phantek eclipse p300 okay? I only liked this one until i've seen the "coolermaster something blabla".

They have cases with a mesh front for some improved airflow

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811854069

 

 

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3 hours ago, GermanFreak said:

this one look weird. i like p300

As a side the ASrock Pro 4 appears to be a cheaper board, and it's still a fine board, would suggest saving a bit of cash there, it handles my R7 1700 OC'd just fine.

Or do you really need an ATX sized board? Because with a Micro ATX board you could go for a Q300L which is nice on airflow, and fairly modular.

Whatever case you end up with, airflow is your best friend, your components prefer to be cooler, so keep them happy with airflow.

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/ASRock-AB350M-Pro4-AMD-B350-So-AM4-Dual-Channel-DDR4-mATX-Retail_1144067.html

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/CoolerMaster-MasterBox-Q300L-schwarz_1225226.html
 

 

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15 hours ago, Streetguru said:

As a side the ASrock Pro 4 appears to be a cheaper board, and it's still a fine board, would suggest saving a bit of cash there, it handles my R7 1700 OC'd just fine.

Or do you really need an ATX sized board? Because with a Micro ATX board you could go for a Q300L which is nice on airflow, and fairly modular.

Whatever case you end up with, airflow is your best friend, your components prefer to be cooler, so keep them happy with airflow.

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/ASRock-AB350M-Pro4-AMD-B350-So-AM4-Dual-Channel-DDR4-mATX-Retail_1144067.html

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/CoolerMaster-MasterBox-Q300L-schwarz_1225226.html

 

Okay, i wrote the q300l on my list and added this MB:

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/MSI-B350M-PRO-VDH-AMD-B350-So-AM4-Dual-Channel-DDR4-mATX-Retail_1167748.html

The only question is, will the RGB lightning work with this mainboard or should I better buy a cheaper not-rgb fans and a rgb-strip.

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4 hours ago, GermanFreak said:

Okay, i wrote the q300l on my list and added this MB:

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/MSI-B350M-PRO-VDH-AMD-B350-So-AM4-Dual-Channel-DDR4-mATX-Retail_1167748.html

The only question is, will the RGB lightning work with this mainboard or should I better buy a cheaper not-rgb fans and a rgb-strip.

MSI AM4 boards aren't too great, especially that one lacking a VRM heatsink.

The Q300L is the one that actually has airflow with no RGB fans.

 

If you really want the meme of GRB in your case just grab a strip or something I guess.

You can see the RGB headers on the top right of the Pro4, not 100% on how that all works.
AB350M%20Pro4(L2).png

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1 hour ago, Streetguru said:

MSI AM4 boards aren't too great, especially that one lacking a VRM heatsink.

The Q300L is the one that actually has airflow with no RGB fans.

 

If you really want the meme of GRB in your case just grab a strip or something I guess.

You can see the RGB headers on the top right of the Pro4, not 100% on how that all works.

it has only 55% positive reviews on mindfactory. The pro-vdh looks worse, but has more reviews and over 90% are positive. Don't you think, that Pro-VDH would be a better option?

BTW. I will use 6 normal fans from be quiet and that will be connected via Y-Cable (3 Y-Cables will be used), because Pro-VDH has only 2 PWM ports for the fans. 

 

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1 minute ago, GermanFreak said:

 

Reviews on a website are generally not a good measure for a motherboard, the Pro 4 is just about the best budget motherboard due to the VRM heatsinks, it handles my R7 1700 OC'd with 1.35V without an issue. Not to mention did you check the date for the reviews? There's been many BIOS updates since the boards launched. At minimum you want a board with 2 VRM heatsinks.

And you don't need 6 fans in your case lol. Like the Q300L needs 2 120mm fans at most in the front, with maybe one exhaust fan, But you probably don't need need to buy anymore fans outside of the stock configuration. Going back to the earlier thing, if you want airflow buy a case with airflow, don't fill a blocked off box with fans and expect airflow. That's what they did with the H500P and it didn't end well.
 

 

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