AMD gaming computer.

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, GermanFreak said:

what amd card should i pick if not this one?

Sapphire Nitro would be my suggestion.

[seon123]

2 minutes ago, Dah budget gamer666 said:

1.Between the A320 and B350 there is no much difference, so that means not worth the money.

 

2. Now these days especially DDR4, between 2000MHZ and 4000Mhz there is no performance improve.

 

3.Are you sure about this? https://www.amazon.de/Transcend-SSD220S-interne-Aluminium-Gehäuse-silber/dp/B01DRWWNX4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1524150387&sr=8-1&keywords=Transcend+-+240GB+2.5"+Solid+State+Drive

 

4. Do you have proof about this?

 

5. everyone says that the RX 580 needs a minimum 500Watt powersupply, at the link below they recommend minimum 450Watt powersupply. For safety get minimum 500Watt powersupply.

http://www.faceofit.com/reviews/top-amd-polaris-radeon-580-570-power-supply-requirements-psu/

You can overclock on a B350 board, you can't on an A320 board. Due to the ease of getting a 3,7-3,8GHz all core overclock, and the low frequency of the 1600, it will improve the performance significantly. 

There is a significant performance increase on Ryzen with faster RAM. It does depend on the game, and do keep in mind that RAM can easily be reused. 

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It says that the price of the SSD is €65 to me. 

Proof that the worst RX 580 is indeed the worst RX 580? The 580 is just a higher power draw, higher clocked 480. 

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I don't care what "everyone says". I care about facts. And I especially don't care about the opinions of people that know jack shot about PSUs. And the fact is that an RX 580 system will draw about 300W. 

[seon123]

14 minutes ago, GermanFreak said:

what amd card should i pick if not this one?

A used Fury, Fury X, Fury Nano. For a 580, the Sapphire and XFX ones are decent. 

[Dah budget gamer666]

5 minutes ago, seon123 said:

A used Fury, Fury X, Fury Nano. For a 580, the Sapphire and XFX ones are decent. 

 

7 minutes ago, seon123 said:

You can overclock on a B350 board, you can't on an A320 board. Due to the ease of getting a 3,7-3,8GHz all core overclock, and the low frequency of the 1600, it will improve the performance significantly. 

There is a significant performance increase on Ryzen with faster RAM. It does depend on the game, and do keep in mind that RAM can easily be reused. 

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It says that the price of the SSD is €65 to me. 

Proof that the worst RX 580 is indeed the worst RX 580? The 580 is just a higher power draw, higher clocked 480. 

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I don't care what "everyone says". I care about facts. And I especially don't care about the opinions of people that know jack shot about PSUs. And the fact is that an RX 580 system will draw about 300W. 

I agree now everything what you said now, except for the ram and psu, the sweetspot should be around 2400-3200MHZ anything higher than that doesnt make any sense.

As for the PSU the RX 580 alone draws at load around 300Watts, so including CPU (95watts) Ram(around 20-50Watts depends on the speed and voltages) and other components draws at load ~450Watt ish , so this means 400Watts is not enough.

[Dah budget gamer666]

What about the Sapphire Nitro+ RX 580?

The downside is that there are no red colors on the cooler.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 8GB NITRO+ Video Card  (€367.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €367.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-19 17:35 CEST+0200

[Herman Mcpootis]

6 minutes ago, Dah budget gamer666 said:

 

I agree now everything what you said now, except for the ram and psu, the sweetspot should be around 2400-3200MHZ anything higher than that doesnt make any sense.

As for the PSU the RX 580 alone draws at load around 300Watts, so including CPU (95watts) Ram(around 20-50Watts depends on the speed and voltages) and other components draws at load ~450Watt ish , so this means 400Watts is not enough.

360w under load with the red devil 580, and that's with an overclocked 4960x, not a 1600/2600. the pure power 10 400w is enough.

[seon123]

3 minutes ago, Dah budget gamer666 said:

 

I agree now everything what you said now, except for the ram and psu, the sweetspot should be around 2400-3200MHZ anything higher than that doesnt make any sense.

As for the PSU the RX 580 alone draws at load around 300Watts, so including CPU (95watts) Ram(around 20-50Watts depends on the speed and voltages) and other components draws at load ~450Watt ish , so this means 400Watts is not enough.

I never recommended anything higher than 3200MHz. For that you would need some expensive single rank Samsung B-die anyway. 

The RX 580 draws 200W under load by itself. 

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https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Radeon-RX-580-8GB-Review-Polaris-Populism/Detailed-Power-Consumption-Testing

The CPU will not draw anywhere near 95W under a gaming load. The RAM doesn't generate anywhere near 20W of heat. To take that into perspective: low end motherboards generate about that much heat under load. An 87% efficient PSU at 150W generates that amount of heat. Take a look at the cooling of those. Then at the RAM. A better estimate would be about 1W per stick. 

Thr other components aren't really loaded, and won't use any noticeable amount of power. The girls system draw under a gaming load is usually 40-120W above the GPU power draw. The 120W is with an overclocked Ivy HEDT platform. 

[seon123]

4 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

360w under load with the red devil 580, and that's with an overclocked 4960x, not a 1600/2600

That's also the wall power draw. They use an AX1200i, so it'll be ~320W DC. 

[GermanFreak]

but, i dont care about how much watt it takes until ita not above 600watt psu.

[Dah budget gamer666]

450+Watt powersupply should be future proof for upgrading.

[GermanFreak]

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[GermanFreak]

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[Dah budget gamer666]

This build is beautiful good, except for the ram. Get dual channel ram instead single channel, because you get a lot more performance increase, especially with AMD Ryzen CPUs.

So 2X8GB ram instead 1X16GB.

Here is a comparison of dual vs single channel ram:

 

[GermanFreak]

16 minutes ago, Dah budget gamer666 said:

This build is beautiful good, except for the ram. Get dual channel ram instead single channel, because you get a lot more performance increase, especially with AMD Ryzen CPUs.

So 2X8GB ram instead 1X16GB.

Here is a comparison of dual vs single channel ram:

 

will the performance increase in the future if i use 4 sticks (4x8gb=32gb)vs(now 2x8gb=16gb)?

[Dah budget gamer666]

1 hour ago, GermanFreak said:

will the performance increase in the future if i use 4 sticks (4x8gb=32gb)vs(now 2x8gb=16gb)?

No but if you open 100+ browser tabs while listening music and gaming at the same time the 32GB ram will be better, but the performance gain between 32GB ram and 16GB ram is nothing unless you have many thing open in the background while gaming.

Get the 16GB ram for now, and in the future get the 32GB ram.

 

Good luck!

[GermanFreak]

1 hour ago, Dah budget gamer666 said:

No but if you open 100+ browser tabs while listening music and gaming at the same time the 32GB ram will be better, but the performance gain between 32GB ram and 16GB ram is nothing unless you have many thing open in the background while gaming.

Get the 16GB ram for now, and in the future get the 32GB ram.

 

Good luck!

thanks!

Will it be called quad channel?

[Guest]

30 minutes ago, GermanFreak said:

thanks!

Will it be called quad channel?

You will still have dual channel whether you fill up all 4 slots as the memory controller is dual channel. So for example slots 1 and 3 work as a pair and 2 and 4 work as a pair. 

[GermanFreak]

1 minute ago, lee32uk said:

Your penis will still have dual channel whether you fill up all 4 slots as the memory controller is dual channel. So for example slots 1 and 3 work as a pair and 2 and 4 work as a pair.

so it will work as a "double dual channel"

"kinda"

[Guest]

Just now, GermanFreak said:

so it will work as a "double dual channel"

"kinda"

Yeah you will just have two pairs of ram running in dual channel. If you wanted to run Quad channel then you would need to go for a ThreadRipper or Intel Extreme build (X299) although not all cpu's on that chipset run quad channel due to Intel rushing it out.