Laptop for Computing

[updlester]

Hey guys! I just want good bang for the buck suggestions for a laptop for computing. 

 

What computing you ask?
 

Iam currently working with a project using a modelling and simulating software for materials, and Ive been running the software in my PC, which is an

 

I3 6100

4gb rx 460 graphics card

8gb ram

 

However, from my findings, running  the software doesnt use gpu as its processing source (unlike bitcoin mining and hashing) 

and as you can see in the picture, Iam running it on 4 parallel cores, but it still takes a long time. 

 

 

So I want to find a  bang for the buck suggestions for a laptop, so i can bring it anywhere and get the results easily. i need atleast maybe atleast an i7. Thank you

[r2724r16]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-G703-refreshed-with-unlocked-Coffee-Lake-H-Core-i9-8950HK-CPU.292694.0.html

 

Buy a laptop with the new 8th gen mobile CPUs with 6 cores and 12 threads.

[updlester]

Oh! I forgot, I have a budget restriction of about 1900 USD. 

[updlester]

4 minutes ago, Rasbir Singh said:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-G703-refreshed-with-unlocked-Coffee-Lake-H-Core-i9-8950HK-CPU.292694.0.html

 

Buy a laptop with the new 8th gen mobile CPUs with 6 cores and 12 threads.

Oh! I forgot, I have a budget restriction of about 1900 USD. 

[r2724r16]

2 minutes ago, updlester said:

Oh! I forgot, I have a budget restriction of about 1900 USD. 

https://www.amazon.ca/Asus-FreeSync-Display-Editing-GL702ZC/dp/B077GBJCNC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1523110088&sr=8-1&keywords=ASUS+GL702ZC&dpID=416uPqZEWgL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

 

[updlester]

2 minutes ago, Rasbir Singh said:

https://www.amazon.ca/Asus-FreeSync-Display-Editing-GL702ZC/dp/B077GBJCNC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1523110088&sr=8-1&keywords=ASUS+GL702ZC&dpID=416uPqZEWgL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

 

ughhh, typo. sorry sorry. its $1000. could you recommend something in around $1000, but maybe not above $1200 , but if its good, just recommend it. thank you 

[r2724r16]

2 minutes ago, updlester said:

ughhh, typo. sorry sorry. its $1000. could you recommend something in around $1000, but maybe not above $1200 , but if its good, just recommend it. thank you 

USD or CAD?

[updlester]

Just now, Rasbir Singh said:

USD or CAD?

USD  

[genexis_x]

7 minutes ago, updlester said:

$1000

So you don't need dGPU? Do you have any special requirements like display size, max weight etc? And where are you from?

 

BTW GL702ZC is mediocre despite Ryzen desktop CPU. Avoid. Quote from @D2ultima:

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because it's garbage. Poorly cooled, terribly designed, loud, bulky, awful BIOS missing even selling points like VT support, slow RAM speed, terrible QC, QA, return/repair, etc service on top of all these issues. It's an ASUS, after all. Piss poor weak GPU downclocked to a bloody 980M performance. Why would anybody want this? It's not like it even lets the 8 core flourish. The P775TM1 is probably a significantly better unit; get it from a company that'll delid and set your 8700K to 4.5GHz+ and you pretty much have better performance already.

 

Edited April 7, 2018 by ZM Fong

[updlester]

Just now, ZM Fong said:

So you don't need dGPU? Do you have any special requirements like display size, max weight etc? And where are you from?

i dont need a dedicated gpu, but ofc. its nice to have one (rather than a crappy intel hd graphics). in display size, it would be better if its 14" and bigger, since working with a small laptop kinda sucks. for the weight, i dont care that much. Im from the Philippines  but if i could buy a laptop here in US (currently in UC Berkeley) , then i would buy here rather than in the Philippines. 

[updlester]

Iam thinking of really utilizing the i7 8th gen processors, since i really need computing power. so.. Iam currently considering buying either.. any recommendations? or any comments about the specs etc..? thank you

 

Asus VivoBook 15 X542UN-DM039T

Intel® Core™ i7 8550u 1.80GHz
RAM 4GB DDR4 
15.6" FHD 1920x1080 LED backlit Panel 
NVIDIA , with 4GB GDDR5 VRAM GeForce MX150
SATA HDD 5400RPM 1TB

 

Cost -  P 45,984 -? approximately -> $950 USD

Link : http://villman.com/Product-Detail/Asus_X542UN-DM039T

 

Asus VivoBook S14 S410UN-EB157T

Intel® Core™ i7-8550U 1.60GHz  Processor
4GB DDR4 RAM
14.0" (16:9) LED backlit FHD (1920x1080) 60Hz Anti-Glare Panel with 45% NTSC with 178˚ wide-viewing angle display
NVIDIA GeForce MX150 , with 4GB GDDR5 VRAM
1TB 5400RPM SATA HDD

 

cost : P49,995 -> approximately -> $1000 USD

Link : http://villman.com/Product-Detail/Asus_VB_S410UN-EB157T

 

 

ASUS Laptop X570UD-E4005T 

Intel Core i7-8550U 1.80 GHz Processor (8M Cache, up to 4.00 GHz) 
Operating System    :     Windows 10 Home
Chipset            :    Integrated Intel® CPU
Memory            :    4GB DDR4 2400MHz SDRAM, 2 x SO-DIMM socket , up to 16 GB SDRAM
                    (On selected models), Dual-channel 
Display            :    15.6" (16:9) LED backlit FHD (1920x1080) 60Hz Anti-Glare Panel with 45% NTSC

 

Cost: P 53,995 -> approximately -> $1060 USD 

[genexis_x]

58 minutes ago, updlester said:

bang for the buck

From best to good:

Dell XPS 13

HP Envy 17 with optional MX150 25W

Asus UX461UA

Asus UX330UA

HP Spectre x360 13

Acer Spin 5 13

Lenovo Ideapad 720s 13

 

With MX150 8W:

Lenovo Ideapad 720s 14

Asus UX331UN

Xiaomi Mi Air 13

 

Budget options:

Acer Swift 3 14/15 with optional MX150 25W

Lenovo Ideapad 520s/530s 14 with 8550U+MX130(940MX)+52Wh battery

Lenovo Flex 5/Flex 6

HP Envy x360 with optional MX150 25W

HP Probook 430/440/450 G5

Acer Aspire 5 15/17 with optional MX150 25W

 

All US prices. 8250U and 8550U don't differ much in performance due to cooling and TDP limitations. You might also want to wait for more CFL-H options. Currently the best option with CFL-H CPU in your budget is Dell G3/G5/G7 like this one here.

Edited April 7, 2018 by ZM Fong

[genexis_x]

Mind providing some links of online stores in Philippines?

Edited April 7, 2018 by ZM Fong

[updlester]

1 minute ago, ZM Fong said:

From best to good:

Dell XPS 13

Asus UX461UA

Asus UX330UA

HP Spectre x360 13

Acer Spin 5 13

Lenovo Ideapad 720s 13

HP Envy 17 with optional MX150 25W

 

With MX150 8W:

Lenovo Ideapad 720s 14

Asus UX331UN

Xiaomi Mi Air 13

 

Budget options:

Acer Swift 3 14/15 with optional MX150 25W

Lenovo Ideapad 520s/530s 14 with 8550U+MX130(940MX)+52Wh battery

Lenovo Flex 5/Flex 6

HP Envy x360 with optional MX150 25W

HP Probook 430/440/450 G5

Acer Aspire 5 15/17 with optional MX150 25W

 

All US prices. 8250U and 8550U don't differ much in performance due to cooling and TDP limitations. You might also want to wait for more CFL-H options. Currently the best option with CFL-H CPU in your budget is Dell G3/G5/G7 like this one here.

iam actually wanting the dell g series, but i think i need to buy one asap since my adviser already wants the project to be finished in 6-9 months :((( , even though its sad that i need to buy an "overpriced" laptop eventhough the dell g series is a really good buy. 

 

do u know when is the dell g series are going to be out for the market? 

[genexis_x]

2 minutes ago, updlester said:

do u know when is the dell g series are going to be out for the market? 

G7 is available now in US. Other models and other countries need to wait longer, probably around 3 months

[updlester]

3 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

Mind providing some online stores in Philippines?

there are not that much online stores in the Philippines but here are some

 

https://pcx.com.ph/

http://www.villman.com/

https://benstore.com.ph/

https://www.octagon.com.ph/

http://www.pcworx.ph/

http://www.gigahertz.com.ph/

 

[updlester]

1 minute ago, ZM Fong said:

G7 is available now in US. Other models and other countries need to wait longer, probably around 3 months

i was looking at the dell g7 15, it was my first choice, but they said that i could get it in May :(( 

[genexis_x]

Philippines prices, all with 8250U: 

Acer Swift 3 14 with MX150

Lenovo Yoga 520 (Flex 5) - need to add RAM and SSD

Asus UX430UN - a bit over budget

[updlester]

2 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

Philippines prices, all with 8250U: 

Acer Swift 3 14 with MX150

Lenovo Yoga 520 (Flex 5) - need to add RAM and SSD

Asus UX430UN - a bit over budget

do u think its worth the wait to wait for the dell g series? because my inside me, is telling me that the dell g series is the cheapest thing i can get that is really powerful and suits my needs with its hexacore processor. 

[genexis_x]

1 hour ago, updlester said:

do u think its worth the wait to wait for the dell g series?

If you can wait, why not

[updlester]

19 hours ago, ZM Fong said:

Philippines prices, all with 8250U: 

Acer Swift 3 14 with MX150

Lenovo Yoga 520 (Flex 5) - need to add RAM and SSD

Asus UX430UN - a bit over budget

is there a really big jump of performance from the quad core to the hexacore laptops? 

[genexis_x]

10 minutes ago, updlester said:

is there a really big jump of performance from the quad core to the hexacore laptops? 

First, don't compare cores only. Compare real world performance like Cinebench R15.

 

KBL-R ULVs generally have performance between 7300HQ and 7700HQ, however it depends on which model as every model has different cooling and TDP limitations. They also need tuning to increase further the performance. For CFL-H CPUs, the same rule applies. Generally the performance is above 7700HQ, however more benchmarks are needed for more accurate results.

[updlester]

18 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

First, don't compare cores only. Compare real world performance like Cinebench R15.

 

KBL-R ULVs generally have performance between 7300HQ and 7700HQ, however it depends on which model as every model has different cooling and TDP limitations. They also need tuning to increase further the performance. For CFL-H CPUs, the same rule applies. Generally the performance is above 7700HQ, however more benchmarks are needed for more accurate results.

so for the best bang for the buck, i just get the cheapest i7 8th 8250 or 8550 in the market? 

[genexis_x]

8 minutes ago, updlester said:

so for the best bang for the buck, i just get the cheapest i7 8th 8250 or 8550 in the market? 

No, never buy laptop by choosing the cheapest laptop with the specs you want. Buying laptop is not only just specs, there are many aspects as well like build quality. I have picked some good choices for you in above post.

 

Correction: i5 8250U and i7 8550U. i5 and i7 ULVs don't have much performance difference due to cooling and TDP limitations. If you want to know more about the cooling of a specific model, ask me on which model.

[updlester]

24 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

No, never buy laptop by choosing the cheapest laptop with the specs you want. Buying laptop is not only just specs, there are many aspects as well like build quality. I have picked some good choices for you in above post.

 

Correction: i5 8250U and i7 8550U. i5 and i7 ULVs don't have much performance difference due to cooling and TDP limitations. If you want to know more about the cooling of a specific model, ask me on which model.

thank you very much for all the help.